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** Thanks, for correcting the article(Listening) and making it more meaningful. I am working more on this hope you will help in correcting language, and do work on Khalsa Kaal Purakh ki Fauj article. Is listening appropriate title or should it be ART of LISTENING? ([[User:Thegreateditor|Editor]] 16:27, 22 March 2010 (UTC))
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Everyone is fine here. I was reading research articles of Harpal Singh Kasoor on the website: Satguru at Makindu Sahib, he given many proofs to prove his points. His whole researches and material is available on the website. Though he claims(or may be mistakenly wrote) that Sixth Guru Hargobind also visited Africa and this is new saying in historians world. I Contacted a Historian Narinder Singh, he will give me details of Hargobind Visits and lifetime, and i will upload that here too.

I had a nice trip to Toka Sahib in Sirmaur district will upload it's images shortly. You kindly go through his website and tell if anything is logical their. You can contact with Harpal Singh too on his mail ID for furthur queries.

(Lucky 12:11, 16 March 2010 (UTC))

Baba Buddha

I have added {{Mergeto|article=Baba Buddha}} and {{Mergeto|article=Baba Buddha}} to the two articles. also were the Merge templates already created? I saw one for Merge but it seemed like only useful if suggesting to merge the information within article, so used the Merge template to make Template:Mergeto (to be used on articles that will be merged with another) and Template:Mergefrom (to be used on articles with which another will be merged). Is that okay? Gman124 00:41, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Please help

Hari ji, I have made a box (check Baba Buddha) and added it to the page Baba Buddha. I still do not have my programs loaded on my computer. To make the box I had to use my wife's laptop which has the newest version of everything that I am not familiar with. Anyway my reason for doing the box is to limit edits while someone is doing something as complicated as combining articles.

In particular my new attempt apparently has several inches of white space included below the box. With whatever you edit the photos/illustrations with could you resize the box or even better make a new box with a similar message, perhaps adding a message that someone has undertaken the requested task.

People have egos and I would not like to be the source of getting rid of someones edits, done while I am working for what might be hours only to get the message - someone else has edited this box while you were working on it and then have to look for peoples' changes, while trying not to lose hours of work.

This seems to be a useful item for anyone. I saw the request, normally with the 24" screen I can open two pages side by side and read and combine easily. Also several programs edit text and check spelling - I have been educating my dictionary slowly with many punjabi, hindi and urdu, ect. words (english/roman script).

Thanks, Allenwalla 17:18, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

will erase in a few days.

Shai Sahib ji, please see below.

Baba Buddha ji (6 October 1506 was born on 6 October 1506 One day, when he was young, he was grazing cattle outside the village when Guru Nanak happened to pass by. According to Bhai Mani Singh's, Sikhan di Bhagat Mala (The Holy Sikh Jewels), Bura went up to him and, making obeisance with a bowl of milk as his offering, prayed to him saying:

The story below said that Bura (Baba Buddha ji ) was:

a small boy and Guru Nanak addressed him saying, You are only a child yet. -->The birth date of 1506 and the given date of the meeting of 1524, (when Guru Nanak Dev was 37) means he was 18 years old. A sentence or two later it is related that he was already married at 17 and spending time doing Seva at Kartarpur. Given that this is a story already woven into nearly Sikh site, I/we need to throughly check available dates, who gave them ect. A child of 6-9 being called Baba is very different from a young man of 18 being called Baba.

As currently stated:

"O sustainer of the poor! I am fortunate to have had a sight of you today. Absolve me now from the circuit of birth and death." The Guru said, You are only a child yet:.

But you talk so wisely." "Some soldiers set up camp by our village," replied Bura, "and they mowed down all our crops - ripe as well as unripe. Then it occurred to me that, when no one could check these indiscriminating soldiers, who would restrain death from laying his hand upon us, young or old." At this Guru Nanak pronounced the words: "You are not a child; you possess the wisdom of an old man." From that day, Bura, came to be known as Bhai Buddha, buddha in Punjabi means wise (wisdom usually only comes with age). Later, when advanced in years, he was known as Baba Buddha.

Bhai Buddha became a devoted disciple of Guru Nanak. His marriage at the age of seventeen at Achal, did not distract him from his chosen path and he spent more time at Kartarpur where Guru Nanak had taken up his abode.

You may have better books than I do. Please advise. Allenwalla 17:59, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks and will research as well

Hari ji, your dates agree with what I find as well. Thanks I've read the story several times, just when I think I've read every page, I come across ones I haven't seen.

The page titled Baba buddha sahib, is now empty - combined into the other article. Perhaps, the title, with caps added, should be redirected. Allenwalla 22:53, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

I read the other day about Hindus giving 'nick' names till a Grandfather could make a name. I know Sikhs now select a name from the Guru Granth. Would this custom have disappeared by the time of Baba Buddha. Could Bura have been a 'nick' name given at birth?

Horses, Elephants and Helicopters?

Not about a Sikh, but I thought you might enjoy this story, seems land speculation which because of a rapidly increasing population here in the US, made some cash out, and sell their family farms for Gold, is also making some wealthy in India as well.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/19/world/asia/19india.html?hp

vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh

I think you have redirected page Khalsa Kaal Purakh Ki Fauj to Khalsa Akaal Purakh Ki Fauj under section further thoughts. I am not getting why you have done that? or may be you have redirected pages wrongly. There is not a Single granth which supports line -> Khalsa Akal Purakh ki Fauj(i.e man made line not Gurmat), but Sarabloh Granth which contains Khalsa Mahima(Khalsa Mero Roop hai khas) having line Kaal purakh ki Fauj. If you want i can upload the page here for you, where it is clearly mentioned and i know you will do Justice with Guru's words by correcting the article yourself.

Bhul Chuk Maaf vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh (Editor 19:05, 20 March 2010 (UTC))

    • If you want me to upload and affix the copy of that page of Sarabloh Granth, i can do it for you? Is it required? and you must know a change of slight word changes some sense, moreover we are not Ram Raiyas, we should display truth only.

Bhul Chuk Maaf vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh (Editor 19:05, 20 March 2010 (UTC))

Sajjan Kumar to face trial

Thought this might be worth reading.

http://beta.thehindu.com/news/national/article259632.ece

The former Congress MP,Sajjan Kumar, will face trial in the 1984 anti-Sikh riot cases as a Delhi court on Saturday referred the cases to a Special CBI Court, rejecting a plea of his.

As I only sleep for about 2 hours , I found this at 3:30 AM this morning. Though like any trial, one never knows the results, i am sure many will welcome the news. Allenwalla 07:34, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

NEW DELHI, March 20, 2010

Khalsa Kaal Purakh ki Fauj

vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh,
Sarabloh Granth is Khalsa roop granth. The Khalsa Mahima is present in Sarabloh Granth not in Dasam Bani. I think that article(Khalsa Mahima) also need to be corrected, moreover it is written same is copied from Amrit Keertani. Some websites is showing Khalsa Mahima as part of Dasam thats totally result of ignorance.

Page 1 Khalsa mahima begins here
Page 2 that shabad of khalsa mahima ends here

Sikhiwiki have to show truth as when people searches this website comes in top and it's not good, when the top website is displaying incorrect things.Kindly check these two image files. If any problem do reply.


Bhul Chuk Maaf(Editor 08:25, 21 March 2010 (UTC))


    • Well it's duty of sikhs to show truth. I am going to explore some true things which were preached wrong in past few decades. The Akal Purakh ki Fauj type people might thought that Sikhs would not able to read Sarabloh Granth so they keep on posting Akal Purakh in Amrit Kreertanis. thats we call Arth da Anarth

Bhul Chuk Maaf(Editor 04:43, 22 March 2010 (UTC))

    • Thanks, for correcting the article(Listening) and making it more meaningful. I am working more on this hope you will help in correcting language, and do work on Khalsa Kaal Purakh ki Fauj article. Is listening appropriate title or should it be ART of LISTENING? (Editor 16:27, 22 March 2010 (UTC))








Wikipedia on the Harmandar Sahib

Hari ji, trying to retrieve some info on the Harmandar Sahib I looked on the wikipedia site. As I had taken a great deal of time making a map to clearly guide, especially people who had never visited the Gurdwara, around the site, i was surprised to find the map gone. The many numeral references were still there, however.

Now I know anyone can edit at will and someone had added a different map with some photo inserts, even turned the map upside down from all the former maps - even the one at the SGPC site, but try as I might even blowing the map up 400% I could no read much of the info, as at 72dpi many words became badly pixelated.

I had been careful not to advertise Sikhiwiki or my Takhallus, one had to search to notice either name. The new map had several organizations clearly printed even larger than the words Akal Takht (the Gurdwara was not labeled/ probably not needed), in fact the caption led to a dead, non functioning site (www.sikhfaith.in).

Something I had never heard of is labeled (secret lariube?) (possibly secritariate?) under the picture of the two Nishan Sahibs-- very hard to read. The red bullet shapes I can't read at all. As numbers still refer to the old map I added it back in. I don't know why someone would remove the map without removing the references (numerical) to it.

However what really is bothersome is that someone used some words of Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale- out of context, with no mention of him. So i added his quote (translated) back in. Even more galling is that someone added back in the old saw that Sikhs stripped many Mughal buildings and monuments, to use the marble and gold to decorate the Golden Temple, I quote -- The gold and exquiste marblework originally decorated the many Mughal buildings and monuments in the then Punjab capital of Lahore, many Mughal buildings were stripped of these precious materials during the Sikh period.

I had previously altered this as I had read this was not true as Sikhs would not use stolen stones in the Harmandar Sahib, I know that many Mughal monuments that are built from parts of Hindu temples (i.e. the Qutub minar), but i know of no Mughal marble that ended up in the Darbar Sahib, other than the huge 'Coronation Stone' (I don't the type of stone) on which Mughal Emperors were 'crowned' in the Ramgarhia bunga, from which orders were issued to kill/torture many Sikhs.

Perhaps you know of some research in this area.

Gurfateh, Allenwalla 01:11, 22 March 2010 (UTC)