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Sikh activist

SSA, Veerji, I was just reading a story on a Sikh activist who participated in a hate campaign with the BNP on a CD, willingly or unwillingly I do not know. But as I was adding the name Rajinder Singh, a Midlands-based Sikh activist I got a page on Sant Rajinder Singh b. 1946. I doubt that this is the same person. Having so many people with the same last name can cause confusion. So i decided not to add the page.

I just thought that speaking out about those who incite divisiveness is as important as citing the good work of those who fight it.

I would have not heard of the BNP, the Ashes trophy, or a Sikh who (Monty Panesar) is famed both for his athleticism and his comic antics, except for your continued postings. Hearing that Sikhs did not take offence at his fans donning fake beards and turbans was a relief--I guess it all depends on 'where one is coming from'. As we say in the country, "are ye fer us or agin us".

Cricket knowledge here in the US is about as rare as that of Kabadi. My knowledge of both is via Bollywood. The Sikhs portrayed in both movies were noble characters--Lagaan for the knowledge on cricket - i forget the movie's name for Kabadi. Just the other day Jarnail, aka user paapi, returned with a page on a new movie "Ocean Of Pearls" about a Sikh who trims his kesh. Looking at the photos of the actors in Mumbai (SikhNet News [1] )only the director was in Turban. I thought wow how sad that a Keshdhari could never play the lead part, as by doing so he would be breaking (an oath?). Just a few days later someone here or on sikhnet wrote to complain about non-Sikhs always getting the Sikh roles. Looks like things are changing; opening the topic up for conversation is, perhaps, the first step! regards Allenwalla 19:56, 20 June 2008

the Sikh mentioned

SSA, thanks for getting back, Sikh activist was what the article called the gentleman in the story on the right wing British party which used to attack Jews and has lately allowed a Jewish member in the group. They now are attacking Muslim immigrants and the man mentioned was participating in the CD they distributed, not in Sikh Activism per Khalistan.

I read of this political party which i had never heard of, in BS's comment on Sarika Singh and the Kara issue. For a Sikh (who that party will still not allow as a member - they now state that they see the Sikh contributions in England as being positive) to participate in a hate campaign against anyone especially with the history of the Komagata maru incident just seemed a little odd.

Also caught your comment on the Ranjit Singh photo in the recent changes files. My hope is that the people who have posted the photo in several Gurdwaras will look at the page and see the later picture with modern ammo belts (clip cases, ect.) and the robust Afgani Sardar who was thought to be S. Hari Singh Nalwa with a grey beard rethink having the photos in the Gurdwaras.

I have greatly admired the General for years--to think that the brother of the man who had lead the attack that resulted in his death was being touted as Maharaja Ranjit Singh and some unknown Afgani was being labeled as the Sikh General just seemed wrong. But truth is a funny thing, people believe what they believe. thanks richard

Sir

History Gurdwara Toka Sahib

Gurdwara Toka Sahib info provided over website is wrong. (Lucky 13:07, 29 June 2008 (UTC))

• • First the persons who stole gurus animals were Gujjars not Rangarhs and second the animals were horses not camels. My Granddad was president f gurdwara he know whole history i think people which came further to my granddad do gabhla in history. the Tap asthaan is given that is not actually tap asthaan. Guru Jee might did tap there but that place is kangha sahib and that shaheedi place of two soldeirs i think there is gabhlaa too. I think i have to visit gurdwara sahib again when i was 6th from bachpan to 6th class i visited this shrine after i came to mohali i never visited it again bec very few times i went to my village 5 - 6 time till know. i think i have to enquire again. What happened to the history know one more thing is coming in my mind that the old well and Neem tree and bamboos are saved or not these three were historical too. (Lucky 18:20, 29 June 2008 (UTC))

• • I had asked My Grand Dad and My Faternal Uncle and his wife they told me the same which i told you and someone has misguided that persons. Actually i have the picture of historical board at toka sahib which now i am uploading but just it is given that when guru jee arrived there etc but not told about the story. Well its difficult for me to visit this place as my village and gurdwara is 70 KM from here and i need time for that. i wrote the comment on amritworld too you can check out there, but no response had been made. and i think the bhai who told amritworld team, the history of gurdwara has misguided them. I confirmed all history from my granddad and faternal uncle and father too. (Lucky 05:08, 30 June 2008 (UTC))

See the pic what a great pic at gurdwara shahidan ladhewal

• • Guru Gobind Singh's horses were stolen so thats why whole happened. Maalik Hamesha apnee cheez pashaan lainda. This changed to camel by new presidents or that bhai which told them history. I born in 80's and till 97 i stood near toka sahib. Before 80's till 97 the animals which stolen were horses, but after 97 it changed to camels, after 2020 they will change them to elephants gifted by mehdini parkash. Tuhanu imey nahin lagda jimey history naal eh ajj diyan jathedaariyan khed rahiyan nae. When i entered gurdwara main tohar naal janda see hunn ajeeb lag reha. I will ask and tell them that those were horses not camels.
    One more thing. See this article Guru Nanak in Uganda, I know you must have contacts in africa as uncle kehar singh jee told me that they were in kenya, nairobi etc. I want you do do one thing please find out the place or tell someone to find if you are busy some afrikan you must knoe someone and bring snaps and detail info of that place. Try it God bless you sat shri akaal(Lucky 18:18, 30 June 2008 (UTC))

No Sir i have done nothing

• I want to thank to all sources from where i get the info and put on this website.
• I want to thank my freind Jarnail Singh who helped me a lot to collect sikhi info.
• thanks to my father due to the facility provided by him(internet), i am able to surf your website and update it accordingly.
• I want to thank you the camera send by you for sake of sikhism so that i can continue clicking the photograph and upload it on net, the confidence you gave me and giving now too.

Eh sabh wekh kae eh feel hunda kee main taan kujh kita he nahin jo kita tusan sabh nae kita. Nalae haley kehra job finish hoyi hai. haley bohot kujh peya hai. Hoshiarpur ch sikhi dae bohot kendar hann haley updations hoshiarpur de payi hai haley sara india baaki hai.

Well ajj main hoshiarpur challeya 15 minute tak niklan lageyaaa. If god helps today i will able to capture the wonderful shrine at Bajwara where Mata Sunder kaur the wife of guru gobind singh je were born. Baaki Rabb jimey chahey. Ajj pooree traat sutta nahin bus ch jaakey sonda. Challo take care sat shri akaal to all. Howz your father know. Ya next time zaroor milangae. (Lucky 23:38, 7 July 2008 (UTC))

Asking for your point of view

SSA, Hari ji, Sometimes I wonder why so many people in India, even scholars, want to give everything away to other cultures. Using PIE which always requires the preface of an asterisk (*) to indicate that it is only a western imagined word or language by those who cannot believe that India was possibly the source or mother language of Latin, Greek and even Arabic or at least a major portion of them all amazes me.

How long before the asterisk dissapears?

Here the word Khalsa is atributted to Islam and its invasions. To me it is clearly derived from a Sanskrit source which traveled to the middle east long ago before the sojourns in the cave at Mt. Hira.

And then yesterday having just passed the beautiful Bay area Gurdwara mentioned in a story last night (time constraints precluded my usual visit) on main page, of the commonality of Sikhism and (in this case) Judiasm. I tune into sikhiwiki to find this bit by someone who, I hope, misunderstands what Sikhism is about.

Khalsa / discussion

Sikhism is not yet another faith added to the sickening list of countless existing the World over. It is the only faith which is absolutely White, the only color of TRUTHfullness which encompasses all others. It is a Faith which has only one Sin…

I see that something even worse was removed, was this considered ..up to the new standards?

It sounds like Selafist dogma, something that Mullah Omar would surely agree with, only he would think that all other religions were sickening and only his was Pure and absolutely white.

My first thought was to delete it, but since i am trying to limit my contributions to improving clarity only, i will leave that to those of you who do not believe that your religion is the only non sickening religion or the only clean one that should encompass all others.

The undecipherable phrase that followed precluded my knowing the one sin that he/she thinks Sikhi has?

I am asking for some guidance here, or have I mis understood the Gurus teachings.

On a personal note

I, like Lucky ji, am wondering how your father's health is going, i had asked for some correction in my last question where I attempted to use Punjabi. Maybe you are too busy or would rather we not ask about a private family matter here.

Last nite I also read of another Sikh who was arrested for carrying a Kirpan into a court. That his turban was knocked off is very upsetting to me, but I have to wonder about his good faith in saying only that he was carrying a religious article. Wouldn't he know that the metal detectors and the signs which say that no weapons are allowed alert him to the fact that a Kirpan is not just a religious symbol, but a weapon as well? Even my dull practise Katana could stab a person to death. Was he baiting the law in this case?

Is it that hard to say, "I have an object associated with my religion in my pocket, which my religion states I must always wear. The object is a Kirpan which you might call a knife. It is 6" long, the blade is dulled." The Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993 gives me the right to wear it.

Seems that using the argument that a Kirpan is dull is spurious, my ice pick with a completely rounded tip would still kill someone. How dull can you make the tip of a knife?

The Religious Freedom Restoration Act gives Rastafarians the right to carry and smoke marijuana, but I doubt that they could carry it into a court. Has anyone looked to see if the law allows Sikhs to carry their Kirpans into a court? Has a case test been put forth in this matter? If not, since Sikhs must appear in Court (jury duty) is this something that has been decided? The article had comments which alluded to carrying the Kirpan on aircraft--is this allowed?

Rab Rakha, Allenwalla 06:01, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Sat Shri Akaal

First of all I have visited Janam Asthaan Mata Sunder kaur jee and this shrine is in very poor condition, i had ever thought. I am writing an article and submitting to loacal magazine and to colliation and panthic website. that Gurdwara is under Tarna Dal, the Nihang dal and they said in there website that construction is going on but it is wrong i found nothing there like construction or any bricks or construction material. I am submitting all pics to Sikhiwiki. Check it out Gurdwara Janam Asthaan Mata Sunder kaur. I want if you have any contact with sikh organization mention the same there too.

Well it feels good to know that father is better. 0.5% well drop makes ocean .5% makes your father 100% fit and fine. Sehaj fal mitha. I ardas before guru jee that your father' health will improve as fast as possible. Rabb mehar karey.

Yes I submitted the fees of semester third, and session will start on 15 or 30th nobuddy knows hahahaaha. i am doing MCA so in punjab Mohali will be IT center in future if this curropt politicians really want it to be, well jobs are there in Gurgaon and Noida, Banagalore, puney, Mumbai, Hyderabad. But today i have Seen smart work is much needed, than hard work.

My freind falls from roof(40 feet) and he was admitted in Fortis Hospital yester day still he is underobservation and will be under till 3 - 4 days. When i heard the news i was stunned . I went hospital today and his parents met me and told that his hip bone crushed, no senses in one leg, organs are what we say Dhass gayae hann. Kidney got affected, blod clotting in maximum parts and in poor condition. Noone is allowed to meet him. When he wakes up, he shouts like anything becomes violent and sedative is given evertime when he wakes up. Doctors from different departments are examining him. Well may god helps him and do ardas for Avneet he will be fine soon. Know what to say he is already the patient of Epilepsy moreover he have something like Oopari Kasar. Huh bad incident.

Vyah means marriage well, Jad lagega main is kaabil hovanga then i will think, tae ghato ghat 6 - 7 saal eh mainu nahin lagg sakda......LOL. I am not fit for marriage, for at least 5 - 6 years, Then Rabb Rakha hahahahahaha.

Rabb mehar karey tuhanu tae parvar nu chardi kala ch rakhey (Lucky 17:41, 9 July 2008 (UTC))

Thanks again Glad to hear of the improvement

SSA, Hari ji, one of the reasons I wanted to hear of your father's condition is that I thought i might make some difference as my troubles with my back or something might prove helpful.

One thing which is helping many people here is the new chiropratic tensioning units, where one is hooked into some machine which looks a bit like a medieval rack. Many people get nerves and bulging disks and the pain caused by them relieved. I am apparently missing to or several protruding bones which safely lock the units of the spine in place. So I was turned down as a candidate. Now if a chiropractor turns you away as a client then I feel he is really out to do no harm. Don't know if the machines have made it to England yet. Something you might look into. Regards, richard

I guess Sikhism is seen by many different people as different things, not uncommon in other religions as well. Was even surprised to see pictures with the faces of Guru Gobind Singh? yesterday with the faces painted out with the word Ik Onkar, clearly they had not listened to Guru ji's words. richard

did the people who objected to Guru Nanak's being the first to call for equality for women have anyone else to posit as the first to do so?

Sat Shri Akaal

How are you hope every thing wil be fine you n your fam.

• An Article Did you know... helps you to write facts on base page. the facts which looks seems to outstanding will be updated here by all members.

• Another Proposed feature picture will help you for new pictures proposed by various users like i a have aboundant pictures on sikhi which can be eaily shared and can be part of picture feature.

Rabb Rakha (Lucky 20:18, 13 July 2008 (UTC))

Sir one question

Should female allowed to be a part of Panj Pyara during amrit sanchaar? Please send me reply and logical i want to discuss this with you. (Lucky 21:02, 14 July 2008 (UTC))

Bhai Hazara Singh is listed in the page Saka Tarn Taran

SSA, Hari ji, came back to one of my old notes asking for help, Bhai Hazara Singh is listed as being the first of 2 martyrs at Tarn Taran Saka. On a page to him he is listed as dying at Saka Nanaka. Can you help?

Also surprised to find that like in Catholicism women are not really equal, if it is that they cannot be part of Pahul ceremony and the Panj Pyares--saw Lucky ji's question. I had not thought of this before, but every page always says where there are 5 good men or words to that effect. Das Allenwalla 02:38, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Sikhiwiki Channel On Youtube

I am starting with Sikhiwiki channel on youtube website. heres the link -> Youtube Sikhwiki. This is a channel where you can upload videos related to sikhi. If there any channel exist then tell?? and ya its password is ************** LOL will send you on your email id. The image will be displayed between 48 hours. if any changes you want to do then tell, will do that. Thanks (Lucky 13:45, 17 July 2008 (UTC))

How are you ?

Sir ji,

ਵਹਿਗ੝ਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਵਹਿਗ੝ਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਿਹ,,,,,,,ਜੀ,

How are you and family and i think respected uncle ji now have recovered and well.

I could not continue on sikhiwiki as i was out of statoin,sorry for it.I will try to continue. Rest everything is fine. Thanks.

--user:sarbjeet_1313me 13:29, 19 July 2008 (UTC)