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Thanks 4 the message but i am surprised to see the removal of concerned stuff of me and Harpreet. No doubt everyone is free to edit both of his personal pages. Their goes the wrong message,this is nt fair sir,their shud be full tranparency abt these imp points. | Thanks 4 the message but i am surprised to see the removal of concerned stuff of me and Harpreet. No doubt everyone is free to edit both of his personal pages but removal of some stuff by Moderator means something , moreover the stuff contained only few questions by some ignorant people. Their goes the wrong message,this is nt fair sir,their shud be full tranparency abt these imp points. | ||
On the one hand we are campaigning 4 sikhiwiki on other sites abt misconceptions by giving links of sikhiwiki and the other hand u have removed the stuff.Now wat will i answer 2 others on other sites who minutely watch each activity. | On the one hand we are campaigning 4 sikhiwiki on other sites abt misconceptions by giving links of sikhiwiki and the other hand u have removed the stuff.Now wat will i answer 2 others on other sites who minutely watch each activity. | ||
Please dont take my this post in negative way but are the questions abt 3HO are banned on sikhiwiki? | |||
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Sat Shri Akaal, Sir How are you? Howz Life Going. Sunny Had done the great job of updating the photos of Gurdwaras in pakistan and some info about khalistan movement to. Allen is also doing cool job of acquiring knolwdge and corrections. Well, The Photos of [[Jagriti yatra has been uploaded and yes gurdwara bhai joga singh article is updated, after adding some more inforation to it which is at hoshiarpur in my room(present m at home), artcile will be submitted for the featured article. also updated photos of bhai Joga singh gurdwara. Tomarrow i'm moving to Fatehgarh sahib, hope more photos i will capture. If you know something about fatehgarh sahib and want me to capture it too then tell me till 12:00 night. I was not able to edit the photographs, slow system due to viruse or something else i dont know. i want you or allen or someone else do the same purpose. Sat Shri Akaal(Lucky 00:14, 6 April 2008 (MDT))
Thanks
- Thanks for the welcome. Koolkat 10:34, 6 April 2008 (MDT)
A problem While Uploading Images
These Kind Of Problem came when i use to upload images.
Could not copy file "/tmp/phpVU4kmV" to "temp/0/0e/20080407141125!Fatehgarh_Sahib_(17).jpg".
Well Thats the best pic clicked as there is not much space to click the image if you want any clear image then i will find but: the following images are only available there is no other angle to take snap as gurdwara is situated in very tight street, mohalla shekhon you can watch one of following:
After adjusting Brightness
- i have uploaded pics mostly which are clicked from different angles and Gurdwara Bibangarh also shown here. Due to less time i was not able to click jyoti swaroop , chevin patshahi and third one koi na fir rabb nae sadeyaa khich leyavangaa. Know i am taking your camera wid me to hoshiarpur there we are planning for local tour of historical gurdwaras. Lets see
Sorry i will not available here for a week or may be upto month or two exams are near by, 1th may and have to prepare for it. Tomarrow going back to hoshiarpur if get time i will give darshan here. No Internet facility there and we have disconeected that raddhi BSNL connection. I think i will come back after this week so meet you then or after two weeks. Sorry again. May be this time i would collect more info for sikhiwiki. (Lucky 08:36, 7 April 2008 (MDT))
sat sri akal
singhji, don't you think that Three Pillars is not the right phrase. guruji laid down these guidlines for us
- Sat, Santokh, Vichar
- Daya, Dharam, Dan
- Sidak, Sabar, Sanjam
- Khima, Garibi(humility), Seva
- Gyan, Krit. (Dr. Tirlochan Singh)
- They in short become Naam Japo, Krit Karo, Wand ke Chako.
A pillar is an Islamist thing. What do you think? i think the heading name or title needs to be something else than "three pillars"(It is a copy). guruji never copied anything, he was inspired by waheguru himself.Koolkat 09:53, 7 April 2008 (MDT)
Sat Shri Akaal Again
This time when i will go to Bhai Joga singh gurdwara i will try a new method i will enter in someones house and click from the top of any roof. Know you must be thinking how can i enter in any house. there are some houses on which a board is there called "Tera Ghar" view pic of Amrik singh hundal a board at back it is written...............if you enter in these houses the persons living here will not throw out of the house. This is the Mahanata of hoshiarpurias, specially these people. Tera Ghar what a phrase............Guru Nanak Said Tera Tera mera mujh mein kujh nahin. Sly these guys are amazingly following there path and these people will allow me to take photograph from there houses, such a great people, one more thing about hoshiarpur here people of all communities jointly organizes any dharmik functions. Well I will click the photographs from wide angle do not take tension, Main ithey matha tekan jaanda rehndaa haan. Flickr is heavy site for me.
I will do that subpaging when i will get the time. Know i am going to sleep.
About that problem talk with the software guru please. Sat Shri Akaal(Lucky 11:29, 7 April 2008 (MDT))
A few questions when you have any time
Sat Shri Akaal. Hari ji. I have two other questions, besides my questions on trying to understand the many Shaheed articles of late.
A few years back i asked Harbans Singh Lal about the significance of the umbrella in much Sikhi imagery or Architecture - he told me there was none or he didn't know of any. Yet, on every, or at least many, gurdwaras there is an umbrella with a rim of dangling drops just below the Khanda on the Nishan Sahib. I am looking at Lucky ji's Image:Topharmandir.jpg where one is featured. Is this nothing more than a decoration. The same sort of umbrella made its way into victorian design where it with a ring of prisms is part of many chandaliers.
I have always thought of this as a symbol for 'celestial' or God's authority yet Harbins Singh saying there was none.
The other question which is clearly visible in the same photo is, why is the Nishan Sahib not just a flag but also a cloth covering, seemingly continuous, for the Pole as well?
On a similar vein the pineapple that appears on the gates of manor houses along the east coast of America uttar, they are usually over doorways at the Christmas seasom in a floral or fruit display or wreath, as well. Reacently i learned, studying Chinese, that this is an old auspicious symbol used for welcome, my Chinese friend always buys one every two days for her restaurant's counter.
Very good wind and water (Feng Shui). Turns out that the old New England sea captains brought this custom back home and started the tradition in America. Then everyone immediately forgot why. On certain days as we have gone to eat at an Indian restaurant there are coconuts out side the doorway was not the presentation of a coconut with (2?) paise and a tilak part of the ceremony installing a new Sikh Guru? I read this in many stories but have not seen an explanation for same.
any thoughts would be appreciated. richardAllenwalla 21:04, 7 April 2008 (MDT)
SSA
Kindly see Jagriti Yatra at Kathua and comment how can i improve my photography.
--user:sarbjeet_1313me 09:03, 8 April 2008 (MDT)
ANOTHER VERSION with the word Sikhism
Have not linked or used but have downloaded -- Image:A-VERSION-WITH-SIKHISM.jpg
Kardi Kalah, a good concept! working well. richardAllenwalla 11:06, 8 April 2008 (MDT)
Very helpful
Sat Shri Akaal, Thanks.
The Shaheed tradition shows up many ways. I have worked on, mainly just organising, several stories where someone was upset with some Canadian PhD who they thought had completely mis interpreted the Sikhi slant on the subject.
Some of the recent stories, bring up a picture, in my mind of people - usually young folks, just sitting around waiting (no other purpose to their life), thinking not of Naam or Sat, but, just of a chance to kill as many enemies as possible and die in a glorius blaze of gunfire. Juxtaposed against the deaths of Guru Arjan and Tegh Bahadur and their purpose in self sacrifice (paropkar?)
In the news we see the cartoons Hamaas and the Iranians run on television with young children being taught to turn themselves into bombs by old men who do not! And in the tribal area Maddrassas where instant Mullahs do the same.
Tonight on the tv news, the first Congressional Medal of honor was given to a navy seal, the first in many years. (You probably know of the Seals - the Navy's version of the the Ancient Persian 'Immortals' and the 'Akaalis" of the Sikhs, with the same gung ho attitude which some writers have confused with suicidal as opposed to casting ones fate with God. The Seal had jumped on a grenade and saved a crowd of his fellow soldiers, there were many tears shed.
I recently saw the movie - Letters from Iwo jima (in Japanese island = Kanji = Bird Rock, in which one sees the war from the Japanese viewpoint. When all was lost - they simply bumped their grenades against their helmets, held them to their hearts and poof. End, of as they call it - the floating world. The Kanji=baby pulled from mother on stream of water.
Their treatment of those they captured was based on their personal belief that 'losers' should have just killed themselves as the Japanese were raised to do. There would be a much shorter list of Sikh VCc if Sikhs had adopted that practise.
If i continue as a pehlwan (can't conjugate (the word for wrestler-i think) i'll figure it out. Raab Rakah, richard --
will ponder over the pillar graphic. Searched hard for the term the Muslims used, as the 'Sun pillars'- stand ins for Iblis (refering to the hated obelisks of old egypt by the selafists) -- the mini ones at which every Haji must throw stones, seems a word a Christian writer/interpretor aimed at Islam to me. Like with -ism maybe its just me looking too hard.
Have forgotten a term
Hari ji, i have forgotten a page, rather its name, which refers to Hindu Myths in Sikhism. The article gave many examples.
This am i was reading the Article on Vaisakhi, found a few problems.
- the city which bcame Anandpur, some say it was never called Anandpur until after Guru Tegh Bahadur's death. so i changed to Pandits walked to the Guru's Darbar.
But i had left a blank - meaning to look for the name the 9th Guru had used. tonight i saw the page was now linked in the front page article so i went back to correct the blank.
further reading i came on the sentence (i moved from one paragraph end to the next's beginning as they work together. the whole paragraph's inclusion at all is my reason for concern.
As the Dasvin Nanak was very specific re. his ever being referred to as a God or having had God like powers, i am bothered by this paragraph - from the story:
- To this day there is a dispute about whether the Guru actually cut off the heads of the five or not. In my opinion, this is not important to gain an understanding of Vaisakhi. The important thing to remember is that the sangat thought or were "under the impression" that the Sikhs were being killed one by one. Trying to speculate about what actually happened in the tent is senseless and not relevant to the events that took place on Vaisakhi day 1699. The Sikhs who volunteered, mentally were ready to give their head. The exercise was to prove the devotion and dedication of his Sikhs. Those who were ready to give themselves up to their Guru were the bravest and most devoted. They were chosen to be part of the Khalsa Panth. Guru ji joined the Khalsa Panth after his devoted Sikhs, and they led the Khalsa alongside the Guru.
It seems logical that some (Sikhs?) have argued that their (Panj Pyares') hheads were really cut off which then infers that the Guru then restored their heads---to me this seems, that whatever the term/article i have forgotten, is being employed. i.e. the Shiva story of Ganapatti the restored head, i.e. having God like powers of creation--wondering as the sentence suggests who the Sikhs are that argue for this belief?
I think the arguments mention is not needed in the article and the paragraph needs rewriting??Allenwalla 00:16, 13 April 2008 (MDT)
Saajna Divas
SIR JI,
waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh,
Khalsa de sajna devas de lakh lakh mubarkhan hoven aap ji ate aap ji de parivar nu.
--user:sarbjeet_1313me 20:31, 13 April 2008 (MDT)
Happy Day
Saajna Divas of Khalsa congratulations sorry i almost missed the day which is just getting here.
The panic, the terror and the bravery has never been present in the many, many stories i have read of that day. Your words bring that aspect home. Its like a play that has been told so much that that element is never spoken. Thanks
In looking it over, the day and the creation of the Khalsa it struck me that i had never noticed that the men were standing up, as had Guru Tegh Bahadur, to what they thought was certain death with the intended result (the Guru's) being that each Khalsa would now become a "Hind ki Chaddar" and by their 'uniform' put themselves in harm's way. Raab Rakah richard
RequEst Gallery PagE
Waheguru ji ka khalsa,waheguru ji ki ateh i have been contributing to sikhiwiki.Congratulations on the guru gobind singh's page under the sub-heading gallery the photos of 10th masters are increasingday by day & the no. has come to 17!Let's all contribute!PLz check it out
See you are busy
SSA, if you have a moment what is a Lakhi jungle?Allenwalla 12:05, 14 April 2008 (MDT)
Thanks only makes sense
SSA, Hari ji, really thick forest or as you say, one of a 100,000 trees was the only thing i could think of.
one other question which has puzzeled me, the story behind the drawing of you on your user page?
After several hot days we have expected visits by 'jack frost' tonite and tomorrow. everyone is worried over their tomato plants and my mother's row of beans, 2" high and not of so cold a nature.
Hard to believe that crops and harvest are already in in Punjab.
'jack frost' and Lakhi forest 2 birds of a feather. regards, hope to see photos of yesterday's celebration soon.
Found this amazing when i remember the net:
Lakhi Jungle is situated 15 km from Bathinda, on the way to Muktsar. A forest having old Gurudwara enjoyed the touches of Shri Guru Nanak Dev who recited one lakh holy Paths of Shri Japuji Sahib. Therefore it was called Lakhi Jungle. Ninth Sikh Guru, Guru Teg Bahadur, and Tenth Sikh Guru, Guru Gobind Singh also visited this place. wikipedia
SikhiWiki Marketing etc
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa,Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh
I searched.What I have observed it that the best content on the internet about SGGS is at SikhiWiki.You may check it!but where's sikhi wiki link?It should be at at the top or within first 3 positions.So,may contact SikhNet about it i.e. the marketing & search management of SikhiWiki
ThnakYou
--SunnyIndia 06:21, 15 April 2008 (MDT)
Hello
As you say, bhai sahib ji. Sunnybondsinghjalwehra 08:51, 16 April 2008 (MDT)
SSA
SSA Bhai Sahib ji,
It was just a lill mistake. I posted it at the wrong place. Sorry. Sunnybondsinghjalwehra 09:50, 16 April 2008 (MDT)
no prob
No problem, bhai sahib ji. Sunnybondsinghjalwehra 10:43, 16 April 2008 (MDT)
Sat Shri Akaal
Gurdwara Harian Vailan - i just put an article in very rough english, most of words are in punjabi if you can then please read the article and convert it in proper english. Baaki i will put some more info and prepare it for featured article. some more photographs from gurdwara have been uploaded. Soon going to click some more photographs from local gurdwaras, mohali as well as hoshiarpur.(Lucky 13:58, 17 April 2008 (MDT))
picture being used
Hari Ji, SSA, i am bothered by the photo now in use in the page on Hari Singh Nalwa, the dates an ages of the men don't work with the invention of photography--we seem to have taken a probably accurate picture with seemingly (controversial beads) and replaced it with a lie or falsehood?
please check if you haven't already seen same. posted by Richard ji
On the Photo
SSA, Hari ji, thanks for the suggestions, seems many people Rate Capitals with anyone they like so i spend a good bit of time doing U & lc duty (Upper and lower case- i.e. lead type, i used to use it every day, came lc-lower drawers/capitals UC - slanted verticle drawer on top).
As to the photo, i saw the lecture on Sikhnet Pramjit Singh i believe, looking at another site, given your response, i looked further - http://www.punjabheritage.org/material-heritage/is-this-the-only-surviving-photograph-of-maharaja-ranjit-singh-.html
this site had very good comments pro and con - one gentleman said he had seen the photo before it was cropped and distributed by Chan the historian, he said the photo was of Shere Ali Khan and his cohorts - identified as such, period. i looked up Bentink-no resemblence to either gentleman.
Then i looked up Ali Khan. I found a real photo ( as is the one in question) with the very same British officers. The one with a goatee and thinning, fluffed hair (high receding hair line left side part)is the same, undisputable, i believe. the other officer is the same also - same uniform, same exact (2) medals on chest in same place, with the same hat with same plumes - he is now seated to the right of Ali Khan who looks pretty much like the one people think is HS Nalwa. Ali has no Bullet cartridge holders, as in the other photo , and no 1860+ (not a flintlock) style pistol in this picture.
Both British officers seem the exact same age, both have the same haircut as in the other photo. All are identifiied and photo is dated (not 1908-before photography, but 1869 well after photography's invention. The photo is captioned Sher Ali Khan with Cd Charles Chamberlain and Sir Richard F.Pollock, 1869. ©The British Library [Photo 752/12 (2)] the site is-
image included. check for yourself. Image:Afgsherali2.jpg
As they say its not nice to fool mother nature, i think whoever cropped the recognizable Sikhs from the photo was not doing a favor for Sikhi. Let me know if i am off here as currently i think someone was up to no good. regards, the truth (Sat), not my 'opinion' is what i am trying to get at here.Allenwalla
well the standing guys clothes but not age have changed.
If i am correct it is not a good thing to identify the General and Maharaja in a photo of Afganis.
Check the pic
Read the wordings: The great wordings snapped from Gurdwara Pudha Sahib, near zirakpur. today i went there and snaps these pictures. this pic is awesome.
Make this featured photograph, want to edit you can but display as it is this is my suggestion and distribute among other this is Laphar, Tamacha slap to mona sikhs....Patits(Lucky 12:51, 20 April 2008 (MDT))
Check the pic
Read the wordings: The great wordings snapped from Gurdwara Puddha Sahib, near zirakpur. today i went there and snaps these pictures. this pic is awesome.
Make this featured photograph, want to edit you can but display as it is this is my suggestion and distribute among other this is Laphar, Tamacha slap to mona sikhs....Patits(Lucky 12:51, 20 April 2008 (MDT))
Hello
Sat Sri Akal sir,
Your welcome sir and no probs, i'll keep guarding SikhiWiki against vandalisers. Btw, how do you like this article: (i formatted it a bit and it looks better now) : Handwrittens of Gurus period
Sunnybondsinghjalwehra 10:58, 23 April 2008 (MDT)
Great Idea sir. But i guess it will take much time.. But anyways, all good things take time... Any idea how we are going to do it? Sunnybondsinghjalwehra 12:39, 23 April 2008 (MDT)
Sir
SSA,
Sorry sir.. I had probs with the Mahan Kosh article and got many redirects.. Sorry again... But i checked out the spelling and this (the new one) is the right one. I saw the mool mantar article an its greaT.. But the prob is that most of the letters of gurus are unreadable.. SO what solution have u found for that?
True... I'll look for it.. As soon as i find something i'll inform u.. Sunnybondsinghjalwehra 13:53, 23 April 2008 (MDT)
ssa ji
i know nobody on the site.. anyways agree about not copying from other sites.. what about my dutch baba moti ram mehra article?? i will put more into it soon.. and i hope u can get a proper setup like wikipedia... e.g. ur reading Guru Nanak's article and in the left corner there is written:
Dutch French ETC
when u click on dutch the dutch version appears et al
Sunnybondsinghjalwehra 17:19, 1 May 2008 (MDT)
Talk:Guru Gobind Singh marg
Saat Siri Akaal ji, Please Sir ji, if you have any time see my questions on Talk:Guru Gobind Singh margAllenwalla 19:37, 1 May 2008 (MDT)also leaving message elsewhere
Misconception
Sir,
Guru Fateh,
Thanks 4 the message but i am surprised to see the removal of concerned stuff of me and Harpreet. No doubt everyone is free to edit both of his personal pages but removal of some stuff by Moderator means something , moreover the stuff contained only few questions by some ignorant people. Their goes the wrong message,this is nt fair sir,their shud be full tranparency abt these imp points. On the one hand we are campaigning 4 sikhiwiki on other sites abt misconceptions by giving links of sikhiwiki and the other hand u have removed the stuff.Now wat will i answer 2 others on other sites who minutely watch each activity. Please dont take my this post in negative way but are the questions abt 3HO are banned on sikhiwiki?
