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Was reading about India's National Anthem written to One God
- O! Dispenser of India's destiny, thou art the ruler of the minds of all people
- Thy name rouses the hearts of Punjab, Sindh, Gujarat, the Maratha country,
- in the Dravida country, Utkala and Bengal;
- It echoes in the hills of the Vindhyas and Himalayas,
- it mingles in the rhapsodies of the pure waters of Yamuna and ganga:
- They chant only thy name.
- They seek only thy auspicious blessings.
- They sing only the glory of thy victory.
Reading that R. Tagore from Bengal had written this to God, I noted that he Had listed Punjab first and was touched that he wrote --They sing only the glory of thy victory. (no mention of Gods)
and not using Vande Mataram, in part a song to Durga or Shakti , perhaps the importance of the feminine mother of Kings and all that Guru Nanak lauded rather than giving a lower status to women as so many of the worlds other religions do or help to keep in place, with most teaching the idea of the husband as the God of the woman--easily burned in a suspicious 'kitchen fire' or divorced by a few words repeated a few times or not allowed to vote till late last century. Or even be in some of God's houses along with the men--as their presence would interfere with the mens worship? Wow was Guru Nanak ever ahead of the curve! Allenwalla 08:05, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Sat Shri Akaal
Kimey ho sir jee?? ki hal aa ghar sabh kidan nae? India trip kad lag reha?
Recent Manikaran Sahib da trip lagga. Khoob Enjoy kita. Khoob Historical facts kathe kitey. Nature lap ch enjoyment te sang guru swaad e vakhra. Kuj pics upload kitiyaa han aas hai pasand avan giyan
Rawalsar e Mandi gurdwara sahib v gaya si oh fotuan lai ke kal haazar hovun. (Lucky 18:25, 7 February 2009 (UTC))
Sikhism Islam
Hari ji, this is a rather odd article to be here. It says it isone of many parts. Though it is seemingly written by someone w/ a Muslim name it seems to be a diatribe pointing out the problems with Islam and the Qur'an. Sikhs are never mentioned. The writer describes it as Blasphemy and it seems to be an attack on believing in Allah. Please review. Allenwalla 11:10, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
sat shri akal again
u havent replied to my previous message.
needs stats of website like how many articles etc etc. thx(Lucky 14:58, 16 February 2009 (UTC))
Changes by Gurmeetaman
SSA, Hari ji, the changes made to 9 or so pages by Gurmeetaman seem to be links to someones ad services for the web and seem to be out of place in the pages will leave this to you and my fellow user group to decide. thanks Richard
Bani
Sardar Ji, Checking the page on Bani I noticed the line --which is treated like a living Guru. I thought to change this as the SGGS in homes is probably not given the lavish 'Maharaja, Queen, King, Nizam or 17th century Sikh Guru, which the SGGS is given to lesser extent in every Gurdwara. The ritualistic treatment paid to the SGGS at the Harmandir Sahib (doubtless at many major Gurdwaras and other Thakhats) seems to match the treatment as imagined afforded to Guru Gobind Singh, though I have never read of him having the lavish privi council of the european royals who had lords or ladies putting them to bed, fanning them and taking care of their chamber pot, ect. I just do not see, in my imagination Guru Gobind Singh being that effete. As were often the most effeminant English and French kings.
However the Palki, the trumpet heralding the coming and going of the SGGS; the nightly cleaning of the 'Palace" and the 'Throne' room (The Golden Temple) might even be superior to that of the days of Guru Gobind Singh as I doubt his coverings and the cushions of his 'throne' (seat in his court) were changed each day. So my thought was that the SGGS is treated in the same way that Sikhs think that Guru Gobind Singh was or should have been treated--equal to the splendour afforded any Maharaja of India's princely states or the Mughal or Hindu Courts.
So I thought the line --which is treated like a living Guru, might be more accurate as:
…the SGGS is treated in the same way as Sikhs treated their last living Gurus. I say last as I cannot imagine Guru Nanak or Guru Angad ever allowing anyone to carry them about in Golden or Silver throne chairs as the Emperors of India (Rajputs, Mughals), Japan, England and France (Louis XIV le Roi Soleil) all those who thought they were the son of the Sun (or God) as was once thought by them and their subjects.Allenwalla 22:55, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
I also wonder when this custom at the Golden Temple started, particularly if it was begun by the Mahants who had even included (I have read) Murtis in the Harmandir Sahib itself, the washing with milk seems to be something left over from those times?
Thank very much for the reply
Hari Ji, thanks for the elaborate and well thought out response and your time and your thoughts. I have been reading the e-paper of Dawn in Pakistan and read today of the first speech to the governmental assembly of Pakistan when Jinnah spoke of every one forgetting to argue over their religions and planned freedom for all, of all casts and religions equating Islam with democracy as the Rasul had intended. How soon the killing started forgetting all he dreamed of--his words on the value of women in government are priceless (as if he had studied the words of Nanak). If you have not seen the paper key in Dawn Pak-then click the link (you may need to register your e-mail as at sikhiwiki) and create a password. By clicking on each page and article or its headline (somewhat tricky) the stories are quite amazing and now I see why B.C. (the comic) caused such a stir in the Muslim world as it along with 'Jughead', which long ago disappeared from our local papers are read each day by thousands of Pakistanis. (the Swat peace deal with the taleban seems very scary, turning people over to head cutters who kill over a 'Frankenstienish' interpretation of Islam to protect the livelihood and ways of the most ignorant of backward mullahs who condemn any form of music and kill anyone who opposes them. With their grand dream of conquering Afghanistan, Pakistan and then taking over India. I am amazed that Mullah Omar, with no education, ilm, took out the last cloak known to be worn by the Prophet (saw) of Islam and wore it as he preached to his followers. Can you imagine any one taking out the armor and shastars of Guru Gobind Singh or wearing relics of Guru Nanak? Allenwalla 06:50, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
On make up
Hari ji as makeup is usually for women, but some men in India do use a lot of kajol particularly in the bollywood movies.
Would - Adorning ones body - work? I would think that clothes, like tattoos, makeup or jewelry are all things we use to improve the appearance of what God sent us here with.
