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I know that Hindus have often believed that a Guru was a necessity for every man. I thought that Guru Nanak wanted to get rid of the Priestly class. | I know that Hindus have often believed that a Guru was a necessity for every man. I thought that Guru Nanak wanted to get rid of the Priestly class. | ||
Also I think that using the Sant with the line pointing to him saying that- These Arabs/Sikhs and Middle easteners have been harassed is a poor choice, as he was Martyred long before 9/11. To put him beside or on the same page with | Also I think that using the Sant with the line pointing to him saying that- These Arabs/Sikhs and Middle easteners have been harassed is a poor choice, as he was Martyred long before 9/11. To put him beside or on the same page with two criminals such as Bin Laden and T. McVeigh (both mass murderers) is questionable in my opinion. I know it was done in the heat of the moment- i am just asking if it is the best thing to leave in this forum/page which will also serve as a time capsule. | ||
Rab Rakha, richard | Rab Rakha, richard |
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Sikh activist
SSA, Veerji, I was just reading a story on a Sikh activist who participated in a hate campaign with the BNP on a CD, willingly or unwillingly I do not know. But as I was adding the name Rajinder Singh, a Midlands-based Sikh activist I got a page on Sant Rajinder Singh b. 1946. I doubt that this is the same person. Having so many people with the same last name can cause confusion. So i decided not to add the page.
I just thought that speaking out about those who incite divisiveness is as important as citing the good work of those who fight it.
I would have not heard of the BNP, the Ashes trophy, or a Sikh who (Monty Panesar) is famed both for his athleticism and his comic antics, except for your continued postings. Hearing that Sikhs did not take offence at his fans donning fake beards and turbans was a relief--I guess it all depends on 'where one is coming from'. As we say in the country, "are ye fer us or agin us".
Cricket knowledge here in the US is about as rare as that of Kabadi. My knowledge of both is via Bollywood. The Sikhs portrayed in both movies were noble characters--Lagaan for the knowledge on cricket - i forget the movie's name for Kabadi. Just the other day Jarnail, aka user paapi, returned with a page on a new movie "Ocean Of Pearls" about a Sikh who trims his kesh. Looking at the photos of the actors in Mumbai (SikhNet News [1] )only the director was in Turban. I thought wow how sad that a Keshdhari could never play the lead part, as by doing so he would be breaking (an oath?). Just a few days later someone here or on sikhnet wrote to complain about non-Sikhs always getting the Sikh roles. Looks like things are changing; opening the topic up for conversation is, perhaps, the first step! regards Allenwalla 19:56, 20 June 2008
the Sikh mentioned
SSA, thanks for getting back, Sikh activist was what the article called the gentleman in the story on the right wing British party which used to attack Jews and has lately allowed a Jewish member in the group. They now are attacking Muslim immigrants and the man mentioned was participating in the CD they distributed, not in Sikh Activism per Khalistan.
I read of this political party which i had never heard of, in BS's comment on Sarika Singh and the Kara issue. For a Sikh (who that party will still not allow as a member - they now state that they see the Sikh contributions in England as being positive) to participate in a hate campaign against anyone especially with the history of the Komagata maru incident just seemed a little odd.
Also caught your comment on the Ranjit Singh photo in the recent changes files. My hope is that the people who have posted the photo in several Gurdwaras will look at the page and see the later picture with modern ammo belts (clip cases, ect.) and the robust Afgani Sardar who was thought to be S. Hari Singh Nalwa with a grey beard rethink having the photos in the Gurdwaras.
I have greatly admired the General for years--to think that the brother of the man who had lead the attack that resulted in his death was being touted as Maharaja Ranjit Singh and some unknown Afgani was being labeled as the Sikh General just seemed wrong. But truth is a funny thing, people believe what they believe. thanks richard
Poster or graphic included in page
Dear Sir, SSA,
This poster labels Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale as an innocent priest. Last night i was reading a page which said that:
- Sikhism stands out as a unique and probably the only faith in the world where in there is no place what so ever for clergy or priestly class.
Am i reading this wrong, is it intended to say their are no priests in Sikhi-that every Sikh is equal and that if i were to learn to read Gurmukhi that i might be able during services in a Gurdwara read from the SGGS during a service or would I have to be a member of the Khalsa. Would I have to take Amrit to do this? Can Sikhs who are non-Amritdharis do this.
Or are the important words in the above sentence the ones which say there is no class of Priests? The sentence implies that all other religions have a priestly class. I know that Hinduism has a Priestly 'Caste'. I do not think that protestant Christianity which arose from Catholicism and the belief that no man needed another man to intercede between him and God considers itself to have a priestly class.
I know that Hindus have often believed that a Guru was a necessity for every man. I thought that Guru Nanak wanted to get rid of the Priestly class.
Also I think that using the Sant with the line pointing to him saying that- These Arabs/Sikhs and Middle easteners have been harassed is a poor choice, as he was Martyred long before 9/11. To put him beside or on the same page with two criminals such as Bin Laden and T. McVeigh (both mass murderers) is questionable in my opinion. I know it was done in the heat of the moment- i am just asking if it is the best thing to leave in this forum/page which will also serve as a time capsule.
Rab Rakha, richard
Please remove me from active Status
SSA, it has been an honor to see my name added at the front of the list of active people. And an honor to be awarded the star. I am not sure if my contributions are helping and medical problems are neccesitating my withdrawal from daily participation. I will look in from time to time to see how things are going. Please let me know if my page can be reinstated in the future. Thanks for all the help you all have given me. Das, Allenwalla 15:43, 24 June 2008 (UTC)