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Khalsaji wecome to Nanak's Sikhi,

jo desy gursikhda niv niv laga pau jeo... fatyh prvan krne je

I am a retired Indian army officer now busy with research. I had been with SikhiWiki for couple of years now. My knowing the rules & regulations not withstanding, i mistook your talk page as the article page & changed the very spirit of your first Query. Khalsa je beg pardon for the inadvertant omission.

My Friend Philosopher & Guide Hari Singh ji Was, had been, is & I am sure will for ever help me in becoming a better Sikh. He did what i should have after having realised the silly mistake. Pl permit me to share my bit which i am putting in now on the issues raised by u issue wise.

All my writings were, had been, are & will be in the frame of Nanak's words jyyse my aavy khsm ke bani ........Being on this site & associting with Khalsa is wonderfull. Personally for me it is an addiction. Do say your mind with the Sikh spirit of akhn jor chupyy nhe jor......gajj ky bolo....jo boly so nihal......akha jeva visry mr jau .

You may consider giving more about yourself on your page so that thoughts on issues of common intrests can be shared with those who know better, & in an organised way. what helps is beeing consistent with our postings.

I am adding suitable titles for the text of this page for the ease of accessibility & comprehension

Should One Believe in TRUTH (Sikhism)?

Did Guru Nanak Dev Ji told us Sikh people to believe in the Sect of Sikhism? or is it really the sikh people themself who did created it?


ਜਾਣਹ੝ ਜੋਤਿ ਨ ਪੂਛਹ੝ ਜਾਤੀ ਆਗੈ ਜਾਤਿ ਨ ਹੇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
Jĝṇhu joṯ na pūcẖẖahu jĝṯī ĝgai jĝṯ na hė. ॥1॥ rahĝ­o.
Recognize the Lord's Light within all, and do not consider social class or status;
there are no classes or castes in the world hereafter. ॥1॥Pause॥
ਖਤ੝ਰੀ ਬ੝ਰਾਹਮਣ ਸੂਦ ਵੈਸ ਉਪਦੇਸ੝ ਚਹ੝ ਵਰਨਾ ਕਉ ਸਾਝਾ ॥
Kẖaṯrī barĝhmaṇ sūḝ vais upḝės cẖahu varnĝ ka­o sĝjẖĝ.
The four castes - the Kh'shaatriyas, Brahmins, Soodras and Vaishyas

-are equal in respect to the teachings.

ਬ੝ਰਹਮਨ ਬੈਸ ਸੂਦ ਅਰ੝ ਖ੝ਯ੝ਯਤ੝ਰੀ ਡੋਮ ਚੰਡਾਰ ਮਲੇਛ ਮਨ ਸੋਇ ॥
ਹੋਇ ਪ੝ਨੀਤ ਭਗਵੰਤ ਭਜਨ ਤੇ ਆਪ੝ ਤਾਰਿ ਤਾਰੇ ਕ੝ਲ ਦੋਇ ॥੧॥
Barahman bais sūḝ ar kẖa­yṯarī dom cẖandĝr malėcẖẖ man so­ė.
Ho­ė punīṯ bẖagvanṯ bẖajan ṯė ĝp ṯĝr ṯĝrė kul ḝo­ė. ॥1॥
Whether he is a Brahmin, a Vaishya, a Soodra, or a Kh'shaatriya;
whether he is a poet, an outcaste, or a filthy-minded person, he becomes pure,
by meditating on the Lord God. He saves himself,
and the families of both his parents. ॥1॥

Sikhism is not a Sect

Guru ji told us that we are all equal but we have not listened properly. There are no sects in Guru Nanak's Sikhi! Hari Singhtalk 01:54, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Sikhism is Self Made

Only A Nanak can understand Nanaks. Sikhs & their Sikhi are Self Made. No one created either of them. both were, had been so far, are here now at this moment & will ever rule the universe as Truthfull Human Beings by following nothing but one universal culture encapsulated in the Gurbani Language. Gurbani Language, the mother Tounge of Sikh Society! Amita Singhtalk 12:25 PM, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Sikhism Tattoos and Earrings

Can Sikh guys use Earrings after being baptized as a Sikh? i don't think personally that would be a major sin to have earrings in both ears.. And are Tattoos allowed in Sikhism?

A: When one becomes possessed by these things then it becomes a wrong but if you do it so that it makes you comfortable with God then it is OK. read the article - Guru Granth Sahib on adornment for a more detailed analysis. If while wearing these decorations or decorating oneself - you connect better with God then go ahead but if it brings ego or makes you "full of yourself" then it is wrong. If you can remember God better with these things then great do it but if it takes you away from God then don't do it. Regards, Hari Singhtalk 23:29, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Wear the Ear Rings made of Patience

  • munda santokh saram pat jhotee......Wear the ear rings made of nothing but Patience--Step No 28 on a True Sikh's Journey to Lord TRUTH.

Nanak lives by ONE. Any 2nd thought i.e. No 2 does not exist in the dictionary of Khalsa!

There are no Issues

'kiv sciaara hoveyy ?? is the only issue in Sikhism.There is ONE & only ONE way of resolving this issue

'Hukm razaee chllxa!!!!!!.......Obey 100 % orders with 100% TRUTHfull Sikhi.spirit from biggest boss i.e. |Satgur!!!!!

A True Sikh is flawlessly transparent. SHe owns & hides nothing. Hir 'ownself' does not belong to hir either. It belongs to Khalsa. If that be so, where is the issue of owning a set of ear rings / tatoos on one's skin. * ghariyy shabad sachee taksaal!!

Further

Sayth Nanak How to live life as a TRUTHFULL Human Being????.

There is ONE & ONLY ONE answer ghdiyy shbd sche tksal....and aap jpyy avryy naam jpavyy ..... Craft TRUE Ideas & Share with Humanity (read GOD)....Become TRUTHfull & Motivate others that way.

--Last(38th) Step of Sikhi

Terms 'Paap' & 'Punn' do not exit in Sikh. Faith

Sikhism (realam of TRUTH) debars/ dictates nothing. it only guides those who, to begin with, may be willing to get guided by nothing but TRUTHs(facts). It is a faith, not of teaching but that of learning. Learning nothing but the TRUE process of arriving at TRUTHs & then get guided by them to live life as a TRUTHFULL Human beings. Needlass for me to say that TRUTHs can be understood only in the language of TRUE IDEAs.

  • kood raja kood praja kood sab sansaar........

Any irrational questions / thoughts in the backdrop of prevailing Falsehood will cease to pop up once one holds his head & offers it to guru as committmet to obedience of Nanaks' orders which are based on nothing but TRUTHs(facts).

  • sajjan syee naal my chala ta naal chaslan jithy lekha mageeyy naal khady disan

wise are those & I stand by them, who walk in steps with me & when saught, render account of their deeds & stay Close

Sikhi. & making of a Sikh begins with committment of offering nothing but one's Head to Satgurbani & then Crafting TRUE IDEAs in one's mind, putting Them on paper & publishing them for humanity to emmulate / Make use of.The western world's concept of Copywriting an Idea is the sociopolitical brainchild of 'Haves' to exploit 'Have Nots'. For a TRUE Sikh. Thy orders are very very clear....

  • mera mujh me kush nhee jo kush hyy so tera.....


--One 07:40, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

can we Sikh male and females shave our hairs on our body ?

When a sikh male or female do take Amritdhari is it a must thing to grow the hairs around your body. And if not then please explain why?!

A: Strictly all Amritdhari Sikhs have to keep their long hair called kesh uncut. All Amritdharis MUST keep long head hair and all adult male must also have full beard. Matters to do with fine facial hair and armpits for women is debatable as I do not believe that these short hair can be called Kesh. The hukam refers to Kesh which is long hair and not facial or short hair.

REASON: The long head hair and beard are a clear symbol of a Sikh - Its the uniform stipulated by the hukam of Guru Gobind Singh.

Exceptions can be made for medical or health reasons. If it is impossible to operate without shaving the long hair on the head for all Sikhs or beard for men; then do ardas and allow the hair to be removed but grow it back as soon as possible as a sign to respect for the Guru. These days, most ops can be done without removing the hair. Always check with the medical staff.

Human Hair..

...is a living organ. I am sure any rational being will never want to chop off his legs, arms fingures etc.

If the logic given against chopping off one's limbs is pain while cutting off hair is painless, then how about doing away with the brain which can be operated upon without any anesthesia what so ever. Bubbling fashion industry is welcome to try their luck here, but let them be warned that GOD may not like it.

The world of fashion ensures that 'Haves' have more money by making 'Have Nots' chop off their hair & pay for it. May be the other way around by making 'Have Nots' grow them. TRUTH ischakku ko kharboojy par maro ya kharboojy ko chakoo par maroo, ktega kharbooja hee. Thus rule the dictates of Falsehood & their supporters.

The breed of TRUE Sikhs will Stand Out of the din & laugh it off in a King's royal way .

Sayth nanak

  • vaad vivaad kahuu sy nahi .....senseless arguments are worth nothing
  • na lujhey...........never get entangled
  • akle sahib seveyy........True Sikhs will get guided by nothing but TRUE thoughts founded on nothing but TRUTHs !
--Kha Rajender Singh 07:39, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Are Sikhism against singing and dancing?

I was wondering if singing and dance in sikhism are forbidden because those things in my opinion are meaningless! and if not why?

  • No, singing and dancing are great traditions of Punjab which are encouraged and supported by Sikhi. The Guru tells us:


ਹਉ ਵਾਰੀ ਜੀਉ ਵਾਰੀ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮਿ ਸ੝ਹਾਵਣਿਆ ॥ ਗ੝ਰਮ੝ਖਿ ਗਾਵੈ ਗ੝ਰਮ੝ਖਿ ਨਾਚੈ ਹਰਿ ਸੇਤੀ ਚਿਤ੝ ਲਾਵਣਿਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

हउ वारी जीउ वारी हरि हरि नामि सढ़हावणिआ ॥ गढ़रमढ़खि गावै गढ़रमढ़खि नाचै हरि सेती चितढ़ लावणिआ ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥

Ha­o vĝrī jī­o vĝrī har har nĝm suhĝvaṇi­ĝ. Gurmukẖ gĝvai gurmukẖ nĝcẖai har sėṯī cẖiṯ lĝvaṇi­ĝ. ॥1॥ rahĝ­o.
I am a sacrifice, my soul is a sacrifice, to those who look beautiful in the Name of the Lord, Har, Har.

The Gurmukhs sing , the Gurmukhs dance, and focus their consciousness on the Lord. ((1)(Pause))

Singing and dancing are great to lift ones mood and bring brightness into the mind; they also provide great exercise and are very beneficial for the circulation of blood in the body. However, when you sing and dance, remember that only by the Hukam of God are you enjoying all these wonderful activities. Keep your focus on the Almighty. With each motion remember Him!

These are not meaningless activities if you do them with the correct frame of mind. Like many things in the world, you can use an activity for the benefit of man or to destroy them. Just like a murderer uses the knife wrongly to kill others, a surgeon uses his knife to save their lives. Similarly, some use singing and dance to promote lust or sensual gratification while other use it to promote a community spirit, a sense of happiness, joy and well-being of people.

can Sikhs colour their hairs?

I was wondering can Sikhs do colour their hairs?


A. Colouring hair or painting the face or eyes is referred to as decoration in the Guru Granth Sahib. The Guru tells us that decorating the body will not bring any lasting peace or happiness. However, on the other hand the scripture say that:

ਸਭਿ ਕਾਮ ਪੂਰੇ ਮਿਲਿ ਹਜੂਰੇ ਹਰਿ ਚਰਣ ਸੇਵਕਿ ਸੇਵਿਆ ॥ ਹਾਰ ਡੋਰ ਸੀਗਾਰ ਸਭਿ ਰਸ ਗ੝ਣ ਗਾਉ ਅਲਖ ਅਭੇਵਿਆ ॥
Sabẖ kĝm pūrė mil hajūrė har cẖaraṇ sėvak sėvi­ĝ. Hĝr dor sīgĝr sabẖ ras guṇ gĝ­o alakẖ abẖėvi­ĝ.
All my desires have been fulfilled, meeting the Lord face-to-face; I am His servant, I serve at His feet.

My necklaces, hair-ties, all decorations and adornments, are singing the Glorious Praises of the unseen, mysterious Lord.

In this Shabad on page 929, the Guru says that all his necklaces, hair-ties, decorations and adornments (ie. make-up) are singing the glorious praises of the Lord so obviously it is not wrong to decorate oneself as long as you accept and wear them with your mind focussed on God. Remember the body is a gift from God, so remember Him in your mind.

If you think that by colouring your hair you will be happy - forget it, that will never happen. But if it makes you feel more comfortable and you can focus on God better, then do it.

conversion to Sikhism

If your family are Muslims and you have studied the sikhism faith in about 2 years are you SAHAJDHARI or do you have to take the Amrit?..but you do follow your all principles.. which are needed as an good Sikh but you also got long hairs on your head. Can you still be a SAHAJDHARI? or do you have to .. take Amritdhari to become an good sikh?

Islam and Sikhism got alot of reltative but the differences are that Sikhism is a Punjabi religion and Islam is an Arabic religion their might be more differences.. but im just sorted it here!

A. If you accept the Sikh Gurus as your spiritual guides and follow their message in your heart, then you are a Sikh. If you are coming from a non-Sikh background, you will be a sahajdhari Sikh. Only when you have taken Amrit can you become Khalsa or Amritdhari.

It is also a Sikhi principle to not upset your parents - So please be gentle with them and serve them so that they support you in your quest - this is important. As you say there is a lot in common in most faiths which is good - do this first then adorn the outer symbols.

is it true that SAHAJDHARI Sikhs cannot use Singh name ?

Is it true that SAHAJDHARI Sikh cannot use the Singh name as their last name or middel name?

A. No, All Sikhs can use this name. I used the name 'Singh' when I had not taken Amrit. When you believe in Guru Gobind Singh, then you can use his name. You are a son or daughter of the Guru!

Sahajdhari Sikhs

The reason of Sikhs should grow their hairs are because it would show more clear that your an Sikh.

But now days many Sikhs lives all over tha world and many Sikhs are popular in the Bhangra Sahajdhari are still Sikhs wether they deciding to keep their hairs unshorn.. your still a Sikh when you got a big symbol of Kara and your name tells a lot also..

I think we live in a modren world before in 50s people didn't know which religion other people do practice but now in 2008 people do know.. even im an SAHAJDHARI sikh with long hairs on tha head.. and with a kara.. i do use kaccha kara and.. kirpan but still without my turban people know i'm Sikh..

It's not a REAL REAL GUNNAH OR YOU WOULD BE PUNISHMENT .. for not growing your hairs.. but it just show you which religion do you practice.. but in my opinion if a person askin your name they would know your Sikh and if you got a Kara!

A. As you progress along the path of the Guru, you will get blessed and you with eventually keep your hair uncut as your love for the Guru's message intensifies. Just keep to the path of the Gurus - Naam Japo, Kirit Karo & Wand shako and all the blessings will come your way. Hari Singhtalk 00:40, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Sikhs in Pakistan

Do any of you know's how many Sikhs lives in Pakistan in population? i want a 2009 report of that!

Not son of God: The Gurus were not in the Christian sense “Sons of God”. Sikhism says all humans are the children of God and by deduction, God is mother/father.

Did Guru Nanak Dev Ji mentioned anything in Guru Granth Sahib that Jesus is not son of GOD I think he did.

Did Guru Nanak Dev Ji or other 9th Gurus ever said that we are GOD'S SON? or did they said they are messanger of GOD?