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| | *'''Things to do: see [[SikhiWiki:Articles required]] and also [[SikhiWiki:Proposed Featured Articles]]''' |
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| == Definitions == | | == Thanks == |
| | Amita ji,WJKKWJKF, |
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| Dear Amita Singh Ji, WKWF
| | Thanks for helping me in trying to remove the misinfomation at Wikipedia by adding a request on the talk page of magnetic hill.U were the first who guided me on this [[Sikhiwiki]] when i entered here. |
| | U r a treasure of Gurbani but i request u that the words of Gurbani should not be inserted in every article. Articles should be in simple english so that persons like me having less knowledge should be able to understand. There may be special Articles for explaining Gurbani and its teachings. |
| | I have also tried ur email but could not find ur reply. |
| | May Waheguru give u more and more Power of Gurbani. |
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| It's nice to see your name on the recent changes list. I hope you have succeeded in getting a job! I hope things are keeping well. My Fateh to all your family and friends.
| | Guru Fateh.Er. Sarbjeet Singh,Jammu [[user:sarbjeet_1313me]]11 Sept 2007 |
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| I have made some small changes to the above article regarding the srigranth template so that it finds the actual line of the Shabad and minor additions to the tuk displayed – I hope this is Ok with you. If not, I will put it back to the original.
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| My spell-check changed the spelling to the one shown above - Should it be spelt as above or as it appears at the article? Please let me know and we can rename the article.
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| | waiting for ur reply.why r u keeping yourself out from sachkhand. |
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| waheguru ji ka khalsa
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| waheguru ji ki fateh
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| khalsa ji where u r in the progress of changing the world with the help of gurmani and how r u
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| vishawjit singh
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| | who is using this account? |
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| I have archived the older postings from this page to a separate page – I hope this will be OK?
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| Is it possible to get translation of Bhai Gurdas Ji into English of all of the Vaaras?
| | == wiki-etiquette - adding to the User page == |
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| Kind regards and keep up the good work. --[[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 11:27, 3 August 2006 (CDT)
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| == How are Things? ==
| | Please do not add text to user pages as this is the domain of the user - If you wish to communicate with the user, it must be via their user talk/discussion page. The user should be left alone to create their own user page, if they wish. If they ask for your help, only then should you help - but even then by adding text to the talk page and letting them transfer this text to their own user site. |
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| Hi Amita Singh
| | Also, communication on the user talk page should be kept simple, textual and not graphical, polite and welcoming. Please observe this "wiki-etiquette". Many thanks. das, [[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 19:50, 11 September 2007 (EDT) |
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| How are things? Haven't seen you here as much - I hope all is well and you have found a good job after all those studies!! --[[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 09:02, 22 August 2006 (CDT)
| | ==Main keha gah ee pa taa== |
| | Ki ho gaya kithey kho gaye see badey dina baad darshan hoyae. [[user:paapi]] |
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| ::Hi Amita, WKWF, Many thanks for your lovely message - it was indeed a pleasure talking and I hope you did not consider it a burden. Please pass me hearty greetings to both you parents, my dear brother and bhabiji, who I may have spoken to before we exchanged our words. No, coming to London is no dream but something that will happen very soon. I will pass your hello onto both the our kids. Please don't worry too much about your absence from Sikhiwiki, but it nice to see your entries there now and then – So if get free time, please just keep an eye on things. As I said before, we have a reasonable base and we only need to improve on what we already have – but please don't forget it completely!! Please look after yourself and I await your details on postage either by email or a post here on Sikhiwiki. --[[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 13:07, 25 August 2006 (CDT)
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| == Translation of Punjabi Hukamnanas ==
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| Respected Amita Singh Ji, Guru di fateh,
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| I hope everyone is keeping well.
| | ==Work== |
| | 1.This article is based on [[SatGurBani]]. |
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| I was wondering if it was possible to get a English translation of the Hukamnans of the Akal Takhat. I have found this PDF file at:
| | [[Gurbani]] is ONE & only One scripture of [[Sikh.]]s of the world. It manifests it self & is preceived by TRUE [[Sikh.]]s as TRUE Guru, TRUE God, [[Khalsa|TRUE Sikh]], & [[Khalsa|Humanity]] & [[Khalsa|Sikh Society]], all in ONE. |
| * [http://www.sgpc.net/hukamname_Aadesh_Sandesh.pdf#search=%22HUKAMNAME%20ADESH%20SANDESH...%22 Download PDF file - Hukaname Adesh Sandesh]
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| This is in Punjabi and as my speed of Punjabi is about 9wpm, it will take me forever. I wonder if it is possible to translate the contents page and create a list of all Hukamnamas issued by Akal Takhat.
| | Bhai Gurdas ji was was responsible for writing the first compilation of [[SatGurBani]]. While Guru Arjan Dev ji dictated the Bani, Bhai Sahib put the words to paper. He, after Gurus, is recognised as the first "Scholar of Sikhism", His own writings, 'Varan Bhai Gurdas' were acknoledged by Guru Arjan Dev, as "the Key to [[SatGurBani]]". The Varan also offer clear supplementry guidance on this subject |
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| Your help would be most appreciated, many thanks, --[[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 09:43, 28 September 2006 (CDT)
| | '''''s3gurr ke baxe s3 s3 kr janu, gursiKau hr kar3a aap muho kaDae" |
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| == Hukamnama ==
| | O GurSikhs, Bani is Flawless & TRUE. Lord TRUTH hir self Make it gracefully flow from the lips " sggs p308 |
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| Dear Amita ji,
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| The Darpan link has been added to the Hukamnama - I hope this now meets with your approval. Many thanks for the recommendation. --[[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 19:53, 11 October 2006 (CDT)
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| == Development of Sikhiwiki ==
| | I have looked at this "Editing" problem and the system appears to work fine with me. Can you tell me which article appears to have a problem? Many thanks, [[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 10:40, 13 November 2007 (MST) |
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| Further to your suggestion, I have listed points for the development of Sikhiwiki [[Talk:SikhiWiki|here]]. Please have a look and add your comments on my [[User talk:Hari singh|user page]] or under the [[SikhiWiki]] article [[Talk:SikhiWiki|talk page]]. It's good to have positive pending items - It is a constant motivation to do something when time is available! - you can never get bored, when things are pending. Many thanks for your continued help. --[[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 22:07, 21 October 2006 (CDT)
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| You asked: <<< should it be '''Japuji''' to begin with? What is the outline of the plan ? and related Hows?!>>> We have a simple Listen, Look and Learn systen for Japji Sahib [[Japji Sahib Ji|here]]. Have a look and see if this would be helpful to have one for Anand Sahib as well? --[[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 21:06, 23 October 2006 (CDT)
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| | I have reverted two articles which you "amended" earlier. Please note that this amendment actually made the text appear incorrectly on other system using the Unicode font system. Please refer to [[SikhiWiki:Using Punjabi on SikhiWiki]] to make your system Unicode compliant as this is now the de facto system for displaying and using multiple fonts. Many thanks & kind regards, [[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 17:12, 21 March 2008 (MDT) |
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| Sorry, but I had to change back this template as your changes made the 2 columns on the main page uneven; also some other changes in colours were to be made today to highlight the contents.
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| I have created a link to a new page [[Sayth Nanak]] which contains your text. I suggest that more short quotes from Gurbani are added to this page showing the important messages of Guru Nanak for the world. --[[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 19:55, 4 November 2006 (MST) | | Siri_Singh_Sahib_Harbhajan_Singh_Khalsa_Yogi never said he was a Guru - please provide proof before you make such un-established statements. I am sorry but I have reverted the changes that you made. SikhiWiki must only support facts that are true and supported by evidence. [[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 09:31, 16 April 2008 (MDT) |
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| ==Sir pappi de wee sun lavo== | | == Please, articles must adhere to the guidelines laid down == |
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| What is Mutia?? Is it your Sir name? Paap Punn doy ek saman... Gur Gopy jo Aapna.............How can a sin and punn are ek samaan well can you tell me lines after these and before these actually i am not able to understand these. [[user:paapi]] Very Paapi
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| | I sorry but the article "Truth" does not comply with our guidelines - There must be a clear message in the articles which if possible should be linked to Gurbani or Sikh history. The article needs to be coherent and in a defined format - please see [[Help:Contents#Advanced_Wiki|SikhiWiki Help]] especially the manual of style. Please try and re-write in accordance with the requirement listed there. Many thanks and kind regards, [[user:hari singh|Hari Singh]]<sup>[[User talk:Hari singh|talk]]</sup> 07:19, 11 May 2008 (MDT) |
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| Paap Punn doe ek samaan..........
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| Manukh paap wee kardaa hai, punn kardaa hai - Fir galat karam kanda ch pea rehnda like chori, rishwat, 5 evils, etc. etc. (i will not display the list) '''FOr that person''' - Paap punn dohe ek saamaan
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| koor kriya urjheo jag mein
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| sri bhagwaan ka bhed naa paeoo
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| Well tell me are you rigid toward sikhism i mean are you a rigid sikh.....sikhism support rigidity??????
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| [[user:paapi|paapi]] - The great Sinner
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| ==User Mutia==
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| Its great to read about ==Health, Happiness & Holiness:Origin of==. You are right after reading i got that you deal with Khalsa and you are the true khalsa. I want to write on the cults like Sant Nirankari, Namdhari, Radhasoami.................In punjab radhasoamis are enjoying top leval.
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| Today lok sharaab, nashey nahin chadade t nave sects and cults janam lai lainde [[Sects & Cults]].
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| What do you think of radhasoamis and how they are related with sikhism........
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| Tusee naam lita hoya aa koi???
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| Well you answers very late i dont know why
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| ==That's really fantastic answers==
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| Its amazing, unbelievable, fantastic, lovely, great (etc...) answers you have given. I can call you a brahmgiani Khalsa Mutia(Sorry dont know your name).
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| Inhi ke kirpa kae saje hum hain , nahin moh sae gareeb karor pare
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| Thanks for giving more zajbaa
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| From where you are who are you ?? i am not getting you i have read your user page......that i know you are khalsa but i want to know your DUNIYAAVI IDENTITY(send me the link)
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| ''q. Do let me know more about yourself, your skills & future plans ??''
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| A. Well sorry to say i cant tell me about myself, (Khalsa Nu pehchanana Difficult hee nahin namunkin hai, Khalsa mere mann ch hai tan te nahin)
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| Khalsa kisey ton darda nahin
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| apnaa Zikar kisey aggae kardaa nahin
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| Kyon kae maan hai khalsa hon te mainu
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| Kisi hor noo kujh samjhda hee nahin
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| My skills = Khalsa Skills (that you all know)
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| '''Shareer nahin khalsae wargaa te kee hoya, man taan hai'''
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| I want to show world what is khalsa, My co curricular activities(studiea) are going on. main activity is to walk on khalsa way and to make other walk.
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| ==Lucky Wallon Sat Shri Akaal==
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| You are Giani, Dhiani, Weechari, Gurmukh, Khalsa man. i want to share a prob which i am facing rite know. Mera mann jayaada der tak sthir nahin rehndaa i mean zayaada der tak tikdaa nahin. Like in studies, or any other work. man duniyaa ch bohot bhatkdaa hai.
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| '''Jae man te kaabu pavaangaa taanhi khalsaa kehlaawaan gaa kyon kae man jeetae jag jeet'''
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| So tell me acc. to gurbani how to control yourself, Man chanchal hai is nu sthir kiven banawaan. user hpt_lucky
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| Enjoy Khalsa Life
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| Thats is really great. Well khalsa oh hai jo pardaa nahin, apnanoonda e.
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| '''jay ko aakhai boluvigaarh''' - this time u r guru 4 me
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| '''Guru Mere Sang Sanda ahi nale''' is '''lai man jeete jag jeet'''. And this timee you are guru for me.
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| hoon main jayaada na likh kae kitaab fardaa and thanks for great great - (unlimited) and amolak suggestion. ok bye
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| == We need to conform to the Wiki standard! ==
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| Amita ji, WKWF
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| I am sorry I had to revert the changes on the [[Summary of Sikhism]] page as the changes you made completely distracted the reader from the full picture that the article is trying to convey.
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| As more users are contributing to the site, we need to set down stricter ground rules on the type, size, colour and combination of fonts that we use. I will be much obliged if we can all adopt a more traditional style of presentation on the main subject matter. On articles for children or unusual articles some extra feature may be useful but I humbly ask that we set a standard for others to follow. We need to stick to the basis system of presentation - Please see guidelines at [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style]] relating to the type of styles relevant to an encyclopaedia such as SikhiWiki.
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| * <big>ਜਿਸ ਦਾ ਦਿਤਾ ਸਭ ਕਿਛ ਲੈਣਾ ॥</big> <br>jis daa ditaa sabh kichh lainaa. <br>Everything we receive is a gift from Him.
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| My only motivation in posting this message is to make SikhiWiki more acceptable to more users and I hope you will agree that what I have said will make the presentation more uniform and give SikhiWiki a more polished and "acceptable" image in the community – which hopefully, will invite more users to read the content. My comments are meant as a help and should be taken as frank and "fatherly" advise from one users to another. There is no bitterness in my thinking and I beg you to accept these words in that context. Please excuse my interference but I wish us all to continue to make maximum progress with this project. I hope my words make some sense but if they don't, I apologise and I will endeavour to be more meaningful in future. Please forgive my trespass. With Guru's kirpa may we all make even better and more useful contributions to the Guru's mission, which hopefully will reach many thousands of others who will gain from the experience. Raab Raakha, [[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 16:29, 19 February 2007 (MST)
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| Dithey Sabey Thaanv Nahin Tudh Jehaa
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| Salute to gurbani master
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| wjkk wjkf keep in touch
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| '''Coming into contact with the sinful human body, the food becomes so impure that is is spat upon.'''
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| Today everybuddy like that type of food, But who takes god name is prevented from my prakoop, But what about that guys
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| ''jinna dae ghar ch granth peendae shraaban nae,
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| Ona nae kee paapi ton bachnaa doston
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| narkaan layee taan oh pehlan hee tayaar baithey''
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| '''It is greedy, deceitful, sinful and hypocritical, and totally attached to Maya.'''
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| Well Maya da wee moh hai sareean nu maithon kiven koi bachoo
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| '''The Lord Himself is the Protector of His devotees; what can the sinner do to them?'''
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| Odey waastey rabb dae naam tae chalnaa zarooree hai, tae paapi ona noo chalan nahin davoo, tae jinna nu mera bhed samjh ch aa gaya, paapi kyaa paap is jag ton maroo.
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| '''One who does not obtain the Association of the [[SatGurBani|True Guru]], is a most unfortunate sinner; he is consumed by the Messenger of Death.'''
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| Well Granth sahib ch [[1|bohot kujh]] [[Gurbani|likhyaa]] mutiaa jee, But saarey [[user:paapi|mere wal]] aunday nae..........Koi [[Bani|granth sahib]] noo parna nahin chahundaa, Jera pardaa oh wichaarna nahin chahundaa, jera weechardaa oh weechaar kae bhul jaoonda.............paapi ethey wee jit prapat kar jaoondaa.....
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| [[user:paapi]]Time ( In control of me)
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| THIS is [[1|TRUTH (god's)]] [[FALSEHOOD|doing]]...............[[User:Mutia]] 25 Feb 07
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| '''Paapi dae sab darshan karna chandae nae,
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| '''Giani Maskeen nu bhul gaye,
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| osama(bin laden) nu sab milna chahundae nae'''
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| O rabba Paap taan aagae hee mahabali hai
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| Eh lok paapi noo hor mahabali banoona chahundae nae'''
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| Paap Punn dou ek smaan ......--[[SatGurBani]]
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| * implies [[SatGurBani]]..... Pappi & Punni are ek Smaan.
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| ** Can't say as to who is not yerning to become a TRUTHfull Human being As Per The Commandments of [[SatGurBani]] ([[User: Mutia]] is)
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| ** In the domain of [[SatGurBani]] & as per the rigid Commandment of [[SatGurBani]] one has to be Alert & aware of [[FALSEHOOD]].
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| ** In the domain of [[SatGurBani]] & as per the rigid Commandment of [[SatGurBani]] one has to become a Khalsa to be able to filter out TRUTH from Falsehood. Lowly Barking Mutia, as on now had not been able to graduate to even GurSikh. I sleep like a dog (at Least I am TRUE to my Profile )through the fourth quarter ( against the firm Commandment of [[SatGurBani]]....Uth fareeda kuttia.....
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| ** Sir, grant this lowest of the lowly dog, I even Bark at the TRUTHful Human beings. All TRUTH god's doings, he made me a barking Dog & not TRUE to 'TRUE Khady Batty da Amrit' (Amrit Vela). It is far off, 35 Steps to go.I need company How about holding each other's hand in the Tough climb of 38 steps Ordained by 'TRUTH god'.
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| ** All I have to offer you is nothing but [[SatGurBani]]. I own nothing.
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| Jy main hunda varia mitta aiada jeera jaly haith ty uppar angara....
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| ** Thanks for giving strength to the suppressed voice of TRUTHfullness against [[FALSEHOOD]] & TERRORISM (The only eternal mission of the order of [[Khalsa|alias TRUTH god]].
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| WaKaFa! Down with [[FALSEHOOD]] & '''[[SatGurBani|Gur]]''' Fateh !!!!!
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| PS: ik bhori darshan deejy.......!! [[User:Mutia]] 25 Feb 07
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| ==Paapi Here again==
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| Insaan nu khatam nahin karnaa, Is paapi Deemag nu khatam karnaa hai
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| Eh hee zafarnama hai, jo mere wargey aurangjebaan nu heela sakdaa hai.
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| Paapi Insaan Nahin Us da mind hai, tae jis da mind paapi hai oh hee paapi hai
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| Mera Mind Paapi hai main paapi haan, Gurbaani nu samjh laina haan but paap mere te jeaada bhaaree nae
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| 5en weekar mere te bhaari hai, te mere warga horan nu kee dao.......Weekaar
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| So bandea maithon bach, Main paapi haan Paapi, Granth Sahib parh jaa kae maithon bach, Main Kaljug haan, Main hee haan Rakshish, Main bakhshak haan, Main kaam krod lobh haan, moh hankaaran daa haan sagar, wae paapn naal bhareaa mera gagr.
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| Aao mere kol tunu is gagar dee sair karaawan, tuanu wee paapi banawaan.
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| Nahin taan Khatam Karo Mainu Mere wal Nigah Na maaro Satgurbani Paro Veerae Satgurbaani
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| '''Gian, sat, Nia, santok, dheeraj, himmat, namrata, sabar, Sheel Sanjam dee jai [[Khalsa]] Dee jai
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| Kam Krofh Lobh Moh Ahnkaar dee Jai, Paapi Dee Jai'''
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| Maan yog Papiji,
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| WaKaFa !
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| words fail me in positively appreciating your sentiments. Only language
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| in which [[User: Mutia]] can express himself on it is [[SatGurBani]]. Every Thing else has failed.
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| * Dilon Muhabbat jin sei Sachian.....
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| * jin Man hor Mukh hor se kandy Kachian.....
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| * Ratty ishk [[1|Khuda]] rang deedar dy.....
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| * Visseria jin [[SatGurBani|NAAM]], se [[FALSEHOOD|Bhuyn Bhar thiy]]....
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| * Teri Panah [[1|Khuda]] too bakshandgi....
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| * Shiekh Faridy Khair Deejy Bandgi....
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| * ......Jina pashata Sach chuman payr mu.
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| * jo toy mary mukkian, tina na mary ghumm.
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| * aapnry ghar aeeyy payr tina de chumm.
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| * [[SatGurBani]] I am sacrifice to you !...I am Sacrifice....!! I am....!!!!!!
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| * I am no where here, it is nothing but.....
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| * ......[[SatGurBani|Naked TRUTH]] that '''WAS''', '''HAD BEEN''' till now, '''IS''' here & now at this instant and '''WILL''' ever be beyond eternity.
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| * Rest all is [[FALSEHOOD]]. Look forward to more [[SatGurBani]].
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| WaKaFa!! [[User:Mutia]] 25 Feb 07
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| PS: Consider E mailing me at....
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| ...if [[User:Paapi|TRUTH god alias Paapiji]] considers me a TRUTHful dog of [[1|HUMANITY alias TRUTH god]]
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| ==fir mandae ho na==
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| paapi nae ik waar controversial article likhney kee shuru kjittey hoon recent changes wich ohee nazar aa rahey han bluestar, woodrose.
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| '''paapi nu jinna marzee kaho kuj taanvee paap mahabali hai'''
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| Where is gurbani sir..........[[user:paapi]]
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| <p class="MsoNormal" align="left">
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| ==.......ik waar '''controversial article'''likhney........==
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| PrIdw jy qU Akil lqIPu kwly ilKu n lyK ]</font></b></li>
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| jw rhxw nwhI AYqu jig qw kwiequ gwrib hMFIAY ]</font></b></li>
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| </font>[[User:Mutia]] 27 Feb 07
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| ==Hey User Mutia==
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| What do you do in sansarik life.???? Gurmat dae elawa kee kardey ho. i think wehle hee rehndae ho mere waang well main taan tothon jeaada wehlaa.
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| But eh gal wadiyaa bai tuade articles ch gurbaani nazar aaundee chalo eho jehe jantaa honee chahedee taanhee udhar hou dharam tae is desh da.[[user:paapi]]
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| ==ssa user mutia==
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| I want to know how to control kaam.........frankly telll me
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| thinking is very wrong abt gal and i dont like it i want to control but i dont know wat happen like paap no jinna marzee daboo taanvee paap mahabalee e. as i am a regular masturbator, it affects me physicalyy to as you looks like a gurmukh man u will understand ma poblem first as gurbani says WEECHAR so pls suggest me.plsplsplspls. Ik singh doojae singh dae kam aaoo aj eh singh paapi e eda paap ik singh hee mitaoo
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| waheguru ji ka khalsa
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| waheguru ji ki fateh
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| khalsa ji chardikala c ho
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| vishawjit singh Brar
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| ==SatGurMat Solutions==
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| Nothing really wrong with masturbation per se & stop worrying about your habit which in a way appears to be prevailing all over among young boys who need to get married , However your obsession will keep you away from becoming a '''Karta Purukh''', ( First Thing SatGurBani expects a human being to be, before one is accepted as a candidate for becoming a [[Khalsa]] after climbing [[Compendium of TRUE IDEAs|38 Steps ]])
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| Thank [[SatGurBani]] that you being from a GurSikh Family can help yourself (''sab kush apy aap'' --Sayth Nanak ) rather than helping one of the joints & their keepers with what you do not seem to be having (money) & getting in real trouble. Do not even think of helping them.
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| 1.<u> '''Get Married earliest''' </u>
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| ( if you are a '''Karta Purukkh'''( If you are gainfully employed & creative enough to plan as to how you will feed your children ) & can earn enough for yourself & your 'would be'.
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| 2. <u>'''Look for employment so that you can get married earliest''' </u>
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| Once you become a '''Karta Purukh''' follow step 1 above
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| 3. <u> '''Have faith in nothing but [[SatGurBani]]'''</u>.
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| Do 'No Seva' But 'SatGurBani Seva' referred to as 'SatGur Ki Seva' in SatGurBani all over as under:-
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| ** Learn SatGurBani as a Language
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| ** Listen to it (Shabads) through the day.
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| ** Read it.
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| **Write it.
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| **Understand it (Gur Shabad Veechar)
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| ** Speak it with your near & dear ones & any one who may care.
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| ** Learn its grammar from some one who know . I am sure your father will know it well
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| * What I told you above is Written in SatGurBani itself. All I have done is translated SatGurBani in English. Unfortunately SikhiWiki Managers seem to be having their own part of the problems They seem to be struggling to help us with better expressions in SatGurBani , Punjabi, Hindi & other Indian Languages. Let us all wish them SatGurBani Fateh !!
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| * What is your level of achievement on the Path of 38 Steps to TRUTH god ??. You for sure have climbed Three steps & seem to be struggling to relish '''Amrit Vela'''(4th step, '''Khady Baty da Amrit''') . You are my Type, I am struggling real Hard to become TRUTHfull to 4th Step of Japuji.
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| 4. On the strength of SatGurBani I dare say that you will be crossing 4th step in 30 days. Stay in touch. Let us have a competition. Sun rises in India now a days at 6:30 AM . Amrit vela starts at 3:30.
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| 5. Being True to [[Khalsa]] Culture, you & me must stay awake through '''Pahar Savaya''' & ponder over wisdom( only and only gift a Sikh can extend to [[SatGurbani]]. All other offerings like money etc are [[FALSEHOOD|false]]
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| ( ....fir <u>'''kee???'''</u> aggy rakheey jit desy darbar. Muh <u>'''kee???'''</u> bolan boliy jit sun dhary piyaar .....).
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| 6. That makes the get up time for a Sikh in INDIA as 3:15 through winters & 3:45 in summers. Sun Rise time is universally known. so if one want to be explicitly truthful to SatGurBani The get up time can be precisely arrived at by subtracting 3.25 Hrs from Sun rise Time.
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| 7. Sounds too early but not any one who knows what stuff [[Khalsa]] is Made of .( I am sure Sikhs the world over, who dare call themselves Sikhs, are listening.
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| 8. Let them or Let them not, it is OK! as long as you & me are listening to TRUTH god's commandments explicitly documented in SatGurBani.
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| With you always !! WaKaFa !
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| [[User:Mutia]] 15 mar 07
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| PS: How about being on Email line my email is in my profile. Consider thinking over it.
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| ==thanks for soluions==
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| but tusee weaah tak ponch gaye main 16 years old paapi hale pata nahin kiinnae paap karey tusee wiah de suggestion de mareee well neglecting that i am trying to understand other things.
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| you waana say that i have wrong grammer ok u r rite but man u told me to speak in punjabi. u are also a english editor
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| '''guru gurmukhi khojdae reh gaye aapan angreji pichey pai gaye'''
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| wichon adhe angreji akhar mainu samjh nahin aaye ongae is ton saral taan gurbani aa, but wechaar doongae nae. mere paper nae main tuanoo fir kadi masage karda naale ina time nahin e mere kol cyber cafe wale nae paise wee kat laine [[user:paapi]]
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| khalsa ji
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| which level of sikhism are u now i think that u gain a lot and motivate many peoples with the help of gurbani.
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| User: chardikala (vishawjit singh)
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