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		Aslee Taara - The Original Barnstar
		"Lucky, Many thanks for setting up the series on Sects & Cults - Yaar, lucky - tu ta kaamal he kar de-tee! Wonderful job! Kaamal-ha kaamal! Well done. I like the template with the many related articles - wonderful addition to Sikhiwiki. Ma tah-nu As-lee Taara paash kaar da ha. I hope you like it!" Cheers, Hari singhtalk 18:25, 3 February 2007 (MST)

• Things to do: see SikhiWiki:Articles required and also SikhiWiki:Proposed Featured Articles

Archived Files

• Archive 1 done on 15 September 07
• Archive 2 done on 29 July 08

m'rea. glla.  ???

Dear Lucky WaKaFa!

• Thanks for the feedback. Satgur willing, I will for sure improve myself.
• sb Nanak dea. glla. hn (My words are not mine but Nanak's . All belongs to Thee).

gur f3'h......stay in touch & keep up the demonstrative Khalsa`spirit for all of us to emmulate it. No one can beat Lucky if it comes to being with Khalsa Lucky, who means nothing but business. --One 16:08, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

PS: I plan working in pujabi after about a week

Luckyji !

Mutia Groups' Writings

• ਜਿਸ੝ ਪਿਆਰੇ ਸਿਉ ਨੇਹ੝ ਤਿਸ੝ ਆਗੈ ਮਰਿ ਚਲੀਝ -I will die for u. Just give me links to my specific writings & I will correct them.

bingi jehe roman english

• Here after u will never find the distorted looking angrejee.

Thanks for the feedback. Stay in touch.

--One_Talk 03:51, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Gurdwara Toka Sahib

Bhai sahib ji, Sat Sri Akal

Many thanks for the message. Please let me know which information is incorrect and I will change it. If possible, it would be good if we could get a confirmation of the right info. so that we don't have a slinging match with someone else. A scan of a book or a picture of a notice board would be great. I am most grateful for your help and effort. Raab raakha, Hari Singh^talk 16:42, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Bhai sahib, Best to get the latest info before we start changing things. The info on web seems to be from a recent personal visit. If possible try and ring and ask or get a written record or please visit as soon as you are around that area. Or ask someone else to do the seva! regards, Hari Singh^talk 00:15, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

I have asked a few people here to try and get some information from a book or other means - let's see if we get a result. What is interesting is the fact that as this was time of battle, many thousands of horses would be wondering in the locality with the soldiers of the Guru. So to track down horses would be very difficult but if it was camels, as these perhaps were not available in large numbers, they would be easier to identify. So, that is why I think we should get some direct proof before we start changing the article. Hari Singh^talk 15:30, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

comments Dera Saucha Sauda

SSA, Lucky ji, i had asked some questions re Ram Rahim trying to see what has caused such trouble. Saw your comments on the page, most of which are in a strange (for me) code i can't understand, but my Gurmukhi is improving - becoming less foriegn.

I see now some reasons for the anger. I saw this when i came back to the jhanamsakhi on the trade his father had sent him to make, hadn't realised that even the name of the group hit home for Sikhs like that.

Good thing that the baba appears chubby, unatheletic, doesn't carry a kirpan, bow or teer in his appearances or practise hawking or horsemanship as that would have ended any doubt about his intentions. He definitely doesn't evoke Guru Gobind Singh for me.

tere parvaardaa kee haal hai? Rabb Rakha. richard

Guru Fateh!

I am garam billa and not thandi billi, as my name would suggest. I chose the name koolkat because of some kool kat who was sitting with me when i was creating an account! hehe! Anyways, brother you were saying something about some trip? i think you mixed up something somewhere. Take care and have a nice day! regards Koolkat 13:23, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Great job on all the Gurdwaras and shrine of the Gurus

Veerji, Sat Sri Akal

My heartfelt thanks for the great work you continue to do as sewa for the panth. Only the Lord know the true worth of his humble servant but may he bless his hard-working sewadars.

Bhai sahib, thank you for your dedication. May on the next trip to Punjab, the Lord make our wish come true that we can meet and our families can get to know each other.

My words are just a vibration of the air, but your actions are the karmas that have real meaning in this world and the next. Raab rakha, Guru bhalah kaarh, das Hari Singh^talk 22:41, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Very humble reply. Waheguru mahar karan, let us hope the blessing continue!. Papa ji, is slightly better now. He appears to have a trapped nerve in the back and so walking is a big problem. But, with the grace of the Lord, at present, he is getting 0.5% better each day. For that we give thanks to the beautiful Lord. Lucky ji, thanks for asking. I hope studies are going well or are they now finished - You have not told us. What are the plan for the future - Vayaa (marriage) dha soochaa? Are job prospects good in Punjab? Aap-na kheal rakh na. Raab rakha, Hari Singh^talk 16:31, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Kimey reha Edinsborugh da trip

Kimey reha Edinsborugh da trip?????????? what were you referring to, i am sure you are mistaking me for someone else or you are joking!Koolkat 15:33, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Didn't know how to do an archive, thanks. You have improved amazingly on your attention to details and I haven't noticed your apoligizing for your English so much. Now my apoligizing for my Punjabi, well that is lagging far behind. Of course I would have to write some first, thanks again, Richard.

for some reason the plus sign is not appearing on your page now.

seems you have asked this before

SSA, Lucky ji, will have to think on this. I have always thought my religion was the same as Guru Nanak's, Many Hindus' and that of Jesus the way they were back then, before the Bible, the Tohrah, the Kor'an and the SGGS. The Rasul seems to have thought, or his followers think that he thought that he was merely straightening out the 'people of the book' who had strayed in Abraham's religion as he practised it. The Islamists believe in only one God, thinking Christians believe in 3. Yet they believe in the devil -- ibliss and even jins and each has a personal angel on his left and right shoulder that they speak with or reference in their daily prayers. As you make an Anjali or 'fold your hands' in prayer i think that you like i 'see' or gain Darshan from only one God.

Don't know a lot about Shinto seems similar to the Rajput's version of Hinduism with some anamist features. My knowledge on Sikhism can in no way be compaired to yours. I would have to stretch to reach the top of your pair in that matter.

Noticed today that Sikhs in Maylasia were laying claim to the name of Allah along w/ some Christians. Mera Yaar, Christians in the 'land of the left hand' or the unlucky hand as the Arabs call it were using the word Allah for God long before the Rasul was born. Even Danny Thomas a comedian I grew up watching on TV as a child called God Allah-the Arabic for God or as they say in Tibet Lah. Allenwalla 21:19, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

By the way the late Sardar Gurcharan Singh Tohra seems to have been a controversial fellow-- I was taken with the name which seems to be his village's name. Like every name in the Punjab i expect that torah has a meaning. do you know of one for tohra? How about Gur (guru?) charan (hands?).

Hi

SSA, the similarity has me wondering about the word, probably no connection, but Toh is good Japanese for East or the Kanji of the sun rising in the east 東 behind a tree. in china und japan the sun is depicted in the kanji as a square w/ a line standing for a dot in the middle = 日. if one takes the right bar away you get an E. We begin with our toes which sounds the same. The little statue, called the king wears the circle (like a kara) with a dot in the center, from Harappa or Mohenjodaro, i forget which, just like those from ancient Egypt a symbol like 日 for the sun, but that 's a very 'deep' subject!

To-kyo=東京=eastern capital. In chinese capital 京 was voiced as 'King' by farangi. Today in an attempt to voice the word as the Chinese do instead of P-King one says Bei-jing. 北京 is Beijing or nortern capital, you will recall that Nanking is southern capital. 北= north, the right half of the kanji is used in the word for death which sounds like the word for four. Koolcat (Garam Billi) tells me that Sikhs do not avoid using the left hand for eating like many in India do. If gas wasn't so ridiculously high I guess that a 'Saturn' auto would not be shunned by Sikhs as it would be by many Hindu Indians. Das Allenwalla 14:14, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Memory

SSA, Lucky ji, my memory may be good but you and your compatriots Hari ji, Sarbjeet ji, Sunny ji (and others that contribute here) often guide me to new bits of useful knowledge. Rin Mochan was a place i had never heard of, what a wonderful story. You have been very busy the last few days the virtual tour is much appreciated. You like the Gurus are a guide to places new and exciting. The experience is in a small way remindfull of the Guru's leaving Gwalior Fort. I have to cling hard to your coat tails sometimes just to keep up. Thanks again. 'Raja', over and out!

Name of page?

SSA, Lucky ji, your title has me wondering over the page. It seems as if some sikhs might be protesting a Gallery opening. Or this might be a museum by sikhs showing photos of the treatment of sikhs who have done protests.

I think it could me over the Saucha Sauda killing a Sikh and photos of the Sikhs protesting it, is some writing going to be added? Allenwalla 21:54, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Name of page?

SSA, Lucky ji, your title has me wondering over the page. It seems as if some sikhs might be protesting a Gallery opening. Or this might be a museum by sikhs showing photos of the treatment of sikhs who have done protests.

I think it could me over the Saucha Sauda killing a Sikh and photos of the Sikhs protesting it, is some writing going to be added? Allenwalla 22:01, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Took a closer look at the headline in the last pic. Its hard to belive this is all pictures only since the shooting. None of this is making press outside of India. One here would think that the whole matter had quieted.

Did you know & POW

Bhai sahib ji,

Thanks, that is very useful - Hope we get some great ideas on these 2 extra facilities, das, Hari Singh^talk 22:08, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

horse terms

SSA, Lucky ji, do you know what Yang of 5 Tola and laung of 3 masha and (Ath Ratti bhar Tol) means?

Also what is a Silver Kaathi of horse and a dushaley? hope you can help Allenwalla 02:57, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Panj pyare

Veer ji, Sat Sri Akal

Thanks for the 'picture feature' and 'Did you know' facility. Please continue to put new ideas there and I will put them on the mainpage.

According to Gurmat, women are equal to men - so they should be allowed to take part in the 5. The gora Sikhs of America do have women in their 5 and I think this will spread as we loose some of our cultural baggage and adopt full gurmat values.

It is clear from the article on Sikh Women that the Gurus intended women to be equal to men. Unfortunately, it is taking the Sikh men a few centuries to completely adjust to this hukam. However, when under pressure, they have allowed women to engage in tasks previously reserved for man - Fighting in war was always a man's job until Mai Bhago took control and lead an army.

So the principles have been there from 1500, but slowly the culture is changing. When I was an infant, I never saw women do kirtan; now it is common place. So the Sikhs are adapting slowly to the values left by their gurus. I hope this helps. das, Hari Singh^talk 19:00, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

saddle blaket Bhaji,

Lucky ji. we have things called saddle blankets a pad for under the saddle. The news reports here now are that many people can no longer afford to feed their horses because of the oil prices pushing everything up. well to do folks kept horses usualy for their daughters to ride. Big SUV are not selling with gas now at $4.10. My little truck used to fill for 17.00 now $48.00.

Please change the story on Dara Shikoh to be correct. Thanks for the help. mera yaar. Allenwalla 22:36, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Questions on article

lucky ji, is a thagaa a wagon or the beast of burden as written/what is/are a dhagaas and prajaa?/what did Gulcharan Singh write? thanks for any helpAllenwalla 14:10, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Angreji? sent my questions to myself

Did not understand the name Angreji, wow how fast you in India and me in the states mail would take weeks was just wondering who Gurcharan was and in what did he write the quotes, i.e. why would we list or believe him is he and author scholar? will send some other questions as i get the time to read further. let me know if i am helping w/ the article. It is a silly over retouched photo of the young Mohandas Karamchand Ghandhi. God server/slave / of God chand? of the Bania Vanias. Das richard have to go Atlanta now.

Thanks

Atlanta is only some 40 miles away, already there and back. I guess when we were talking earlier it was early there, but it must be getting late by now?

Surprised you're still up

SSA, Lucky ji, I had noted that you must be up late working on pages, i was out for a while, i see you've been busy another hour or more/ I live north of atlanta just use that as the biggest town anyone would know. I had seen you and Toufauj going back and forth thought the photo was funny as well--way overtouched in the days of airbrush painting. Good night Rab Rakha, richard

Roma

I have always though that at sometimes probably thousands of years ago many Indians traveled around the world--trying to prove this. The Roma are thought to be the people, many from sind, who we call gypsies, they have their own language which is similar to ones in India. Romania gets its name from the Romans as they colonized much of it once. Roma in Punjabi means Hair(?), if i am remembering correctly. The old horror movies of my youth featured the werewolf story of a man that changed into a wolf on purnama? (full moon night). He would go to his mother and old gypsy in her tonga sometimes in the movies. He would always grow a lot of hair and full beard and more as one watched the transformation to wolf (a threaders dream of lifetime employment) only not a custom of the Sikhs.

The word gypsy is thought to be from the one time belief that they were from Egypt and they lived chiefly by gyping or swindling people in bad trades/transactions where they promised one thing and delivered another. The Nazis included then in their concentration camps with the Jews. Last night I was reading of the Sikhs who recruited by the efforts of Ajit Singh ended up in the SS units in the netherlands while other Sikhs were fighting on the other side. I think Ajit Singh's career would be an excellent subject for a movie, much more interesting than N. S. Chandra Bose. His fiery speeches often worked crowds to anger 10 years before the riots that ended with the masacre at Jallianwallabagh. In his book (some of it on line) he recounts how he once tricked Lala Rajput Rai into speaking at one of his gatherings. Lala was like Gandhi a basically peaceful man i think it was his seeing him beat senseless that provoked Baghat Singh to murder. In the explosions in the assembly he had been careful to make sure that no one was hurt, just wanted to make a big attention getting bang. richard

yesterday there was a one reel wonder (old 20s film) (turner network) on Mumbai, the Banias were shown trading camels or something sealing the deal with a secret handshake (bidding back and forth by hand gestures under a piece of cloth?) done under a cloth cover. Do you know of this old practise? I had assumed it was so the buyer and seller could keep their deal secret so the next buyer would have to start all over and couldn't start at the low price as agreed.

hi

Veer ji

ਵਹਿਗ੝ਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਵਹਿਗ੝ਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਿਹ,,,,,,,ਜੀ

--user:sarbjeet_1313me 13:21, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

asked for comments

Hi, Lucky ji you had recently asked for some info on the Romas, dodn't hear back from you. caught this news bit today sending link. Some troubles between Romas and other Italians. sending link. i moght have thought people were asleep, can't tell distance because of telephoto lense condensing space. Allenwalla 12:46, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

link -- [1]

Seems now that roma is being used to refer to any romanians in italy although much hate is directed against the Gypsies. the second story below sounds like Banda Bahadur's times when Sikh heads had bounties on them. Of course the same is going on in the middle east as well. [2]

[3]

Organized Rage looks at life from the perspective of the working classes and the dispossessed. It covers politics and life throughout the European Union and the wider world; and rages against injustice wherever it may be found. Organized Rage attempt's to play a small role in encouraging people to fight back against oppressive, intolerant and unaccountable governments and their agencies.

On the same day that philosopher Professor A.C. Grayling wrote in the Guardian that no one has the right to dictate to others how they live their lives, Italy's highest appeal court ruled that it was acceptable to discriminate against Roma gypsies on the grounds that "all Gypsies were thieves." This judgement endorses the Italian government, led by Silvio Berlusconi, practice of having a national register for all the country's estimated 150,000 Roma gypsies and travelers, whether Italian-born or not…

[4] even fingerprinting children.

[5] in this article they even use the word sinti (sindi?) http://us.oneworld.net/article/rome-versus-roma

Sinti a word i had not known probably sourced from sindhi wikipedia [6] this article and [7] should help with info on the Romas.

pls see talk Mona Sikh questions

Sat Shri Akal

Complaint

Lucky veer ji, Sat Sri Akal

You know when there is Guru's sewa, one should not start debating about it - we should just get on with the sewa. People are always looking for excuses before they commit to the Guru's sewa.

I hope you will agree that in reality for whatever reasons, with the help of all SikhiWiki active users together we have control of the SikhiWiki content – perhaps I can be regarded as exercising the final “control” over the contents of SikhiWiki with the blessing of all other users - just look at the "recent changes" log - together with the active users, we are the only ones who control the content – we almost never get interference from anyone else. I hope you will agree that no one else generally has any input in this respect.

Although Gurumustuk Singh can get involved, he has hardly ever done so and he knows that SikhiWiki is “independent” in that regard. Also, it is important to note that the last main reversion on the 3HO article was by me.

Obviously, most of the gora Sikhs became Sikhs due to 3HO. So it is not surprising if they will defend the organisation and there is nothing wrong with that.

This is very similar to articles that I have written. I feel hurt if someone changes them without good reason and I am sure we are all the same.

I do not believe that it is in the interest of SikhiWiki to "insult" or "denigrate" other “Sikhi related” sites without absolute and irrefutable proof. Although 3HO is a site connected with Sikhi, it is not a “Sikhi only site” or a Gurdwara site – it is a commercial/charity site with Sikhi connection. The organisation has been responsible for the “birth” of many Sikhs who are dedicated to the Gurus. I respect that and for that reason will defend them from unnecessary criticism.

We must help other organisation that are helping Sikhi rather than knock them. So unless these people can come up with very solid proof (and I am sure they will not find it) we will not allow sloppy abuse against any “Sikhi related site” here on SikhiWiki. We need to be a responsible site if we are to continue to move forward – Sikhi is a very serious and responsible dharma and we need to follow that principle.

I know about Sikhipedia – in fact this was the name I used at Wikia in about March this year – these folks at Khalsa press appear to have copied this name! We don’t really need to worry about these sites – they all helps promote Sikhi so its all good news!

Raab Rakha, Hari Singh^talk 15:33, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Need help

Sardarji,

"Singho Dhaende Desh Da Jadon Sahara Nahin Si Udo Pita Nu Desh Te Variya Main|

Mata Gujri Sirhind De Vich Gujri Sama Gujareya Jiven Gujareya Main|

Char Puttar San bakshe Parmatma Ne Oh Vi Joda Joda Kar Ke Variya Main|

Mainu Shahenshaw Na Tusi Kaho Singho Kishtan naal Hai Karza Utareya Main|"

Sangat is bigger than Guru".

Sent father to Delhi on Kashmiri Pandits plea,

then on Sangat's request left Anandpur Sahib,

left Chamkaur Garhi on Sangat's request,

now you are asking me on Sangat's behalf.

even i can see this is way off.

Mata Gujri at Sirhind isn't included nor any mention of the Shahenshaw/Parmatma (great soul?-God?) or 4 sons.

please help!!!!! Allenwalla

Same old same old, whine whine whine

same complaint that was made a few months ago

Lucky ji, I saw this same complaint almost word for word several months ago. i have spent almost a year contributing to work on this site, almost daily i check the recent changes. I have yet to see anyone making a comment or complaint concerning 3HO. I had come across the 3HO article once in a random searchnot knowing anything about the organization. I see that the article which i now can't find by typing 3HO (you have to be creative to even find the page) has been greatly reduced and is almost impossible to find. So no one seems to be tooting a horn or a shank, hahaha as you say, for anything other than what is in the SGGS or Sikh history.

From what i have learned about the organization since, one could only be upset that the Sikhs who were introduced to Sikhi by Harbajan Singh are very thorough in their practise of Sikhism, saw one young Sikh Kaur, an Indian tv celeb, on youtube who was blown away by the groups' intense version (old) of Sikh ways, she being from the Panjab was blown away. Bani, Bana, et al, the full 5K with long bushy untrimmed beards that I usually see only in pictures of Sikh elders (and the young martyrs of the mid eighties). The love of Gurmukhi and the care in which it was learned (not seen in many NRI Sikh kids--even young Sikhs in Punjab--(you say?) had her feeling like she was in a time warp--same feeling i got watching her story.

Seems the only compaints are by people who think of Sikhi as a private club who see so called 'white' folks joining their club, some with more money, learning its ways, perhaps, better than they. Maybe they are afraid its only a fad for the Americans. (pretty long time, if it were) So what if they don't have Hindu or Muslim tribal or village names going back countless centuries, Isn't that why the four doors are on the Darbar Sahib. Boy we can all be snobs can't we?

Since I think that most of us of WASP stock are derived of Desi stock, which in turn is derived from African stock with some mutations along the way (as proven by genetics) where's the beef.

On this site no one promotes anything other than Gursikhism and you probably do more than anyone else.

The last time these people, those complaining about 3HO, said this i asked for anyone to show any such article or edits which had been removed. nothing in response. Raab Rakha Allenwalla 03:25, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Capt

SSA, Jucky ji, in the story on the Labana Capt - it ends saying he use to recite Gurbani every day. Is that what is meant-are we chastizing him or pointing out that he has quit reciting Gurbani every day.

Seems strange? to point out is something else meant?

I tried to delete the Death in the block but it does not go away/ it did say Not Available. As that is true for us all - it seems like a condor or vulture waiting on a tree. Maybe you can delete the word?

To mention death before someone dies seems bad to my mind. If someone was on deaths door, expected any time i still wouldn't include death: imminant or soon.

How have you been? are any of the troubles of Jammu & K, demonstrations spread to your area, saw that such demos were going on in Delhi yesterday.

Sat Siri Akal

Lucky, chota veer ji,

Malik de baksish kaarn, sab-heey chardikala which-na. Everything is well; family is keeping in good spirits - Gurjit (son) tay Jyoti (daughter) USA trip tou vaapas monday eyaa-naa. They went to LA & vegas for 10 days with 10 other family members from UK and North America. They had good time.

Dad is making slow recovery - I try and stay with parents to give them company. family is working together to see even better recovery of Dad. He is seeing various consultants and having physiotherapy and is now walking with a frame. Hopefully in the next few weeks he will start walking without the frame.

Hhor, Lucky ji, don't get disheartened by the problems of broadband - You have done a great job so far and because of your efforts, we have some beautiful photos of our historical sites - for all the world to see and they are available free! Waheguru aap ji tay baksish karday raahn. Also due to your efforts, more users are also uploading photos. This is a long term project so don't worry. We are going in the right direction.

I hope everyone is keeping well in Punjab. How is the family? What are the plans for next few months? How about education/work - any further plans? Regards, Hari Singh^talk 23:49, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Lucky ji, I hope things continue to go well with the studies. Malik dee baksish naal, we are all tied to His path. As you say, without this sewa, may be we would have treaded elsewhere and found much pain. Kushee ha kay Jarnail Singh vee malik dee sewa which lagh gay-haan. I look forward to seeing the photos from Bathinda area - I have never been there so it will be very exciting. Camera tah Waheguru dah hah - oosha-dee baksish hah. Video is an exciting thing. I agree we should get footage of all ithihaasic places. I will try and arrange to get a small video camera in the next few months and we will add this to our facilities.

The Gurdwara coverage is excellent and the more we add, the more impressive. At some stage, we will need to create a simple menu system at the bottom of each Gurdwara article so that the reader can explore all the Gurdwaras with a certain theme going from one to the next without having to go thro the category. All the important G/W should have this menu at the bottom. Also, we will need to add a location map for each G/W. But these are additions for the future.

Itihaasak gurdwara website naal tie-up sounds very good. What is involved and how will the sangat gain? Sound like a great idea. It is nice to know that your hard work is becoming useful to other Sikhi organisation. The beautiful history of the Gurus can be learnt easily thro these historical G/Ws. Please keep me posted as this is exciting.

If you get time, please visit my friend at Crossroads hotel at Panchkula, Chandigarh. I will send you the name via email. Let me know when you will be in Chandigarh.

May Waheguru bless you and your family. regards, Hari Singh^talk 12:40, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Guurudwara Nanak jeera photos

Photos uploaded by you

Hi!Hpt Lucky, Your photos are very good. I wish to transfer some of your photos for use on my artcile on "Architectural Lineage of Karanataka" where I have a section Sikh Architecture. I tried to trasfer your pictures but could not do so since licensing information is not avaialble on your files. Will you please upload your photo files on Wiki Commons also so that other users can use the pictures of Gurdwaras as required on their articles? If you have any pictures of bangalore Gurdwara in Ulsoor, please upload them on Wiki Commons. As you know, wiki is a free encyclopedia site. I hope you will do the needful or upload all your photos with a free license as per wiki norms. Thanks--nachhu 02:54, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

SSA VEER JEE

Harpreet ji,

Thanx for the message i will try whenever i will get time.

user:sarbjeet_1313me