Talk:Sikh Bhagats

Bhagat or no?

Most people think Sat gur Ravidass, Kabir, and Farid maharaj ji are bhagats (many more guru ji's that are considered bhagats), but you know what... THEY'RE WRONG and im going to tell you why.

Here's 2 facts to prove you wrong (beleive whichever you want, theyre both right);

1. First of all, you beleive in the guru granth sahib and all within it are gurus. If you didn't already know, Sat gur Ravidass, Sat gur Kabir and more Guru's that are considered bhagats by ediots are in the GURU Granth Sahib. When you bowdown (matha tekh) at the gurudwara to the guru granth sahib you are not only bowing before Sat gur nanek dev ji, but the gurus of guru nanek. THE ONES YOU CALL BHAGATS, my father sat gur ravidass. Every single person that has contributed in the making of the guru granth sahib are gurus.

If you ever get the time, read about sacha sauda.

2. Anyways, the second proof I've got to prove you all wrong is the word Guru. Guru is made from 2 pharsee shabds, ga and ruu. Ga and ruu means the light that takes away darkness. Now wether you were one of the ten gurus or not, if you are a light that takes away darkness (like saints;; Ex: 108 Sant Baba Darshan dass ji, 108 Sant Baba Bhagwan dass ji etc.) then you are a guru. Therefore there is no way you or anyperson in the world has the right to call Shri Guru ravidass, kabir, farid, dhanna, sadna, sen, tirlochan, and namdev maharaj ji a bhagat.

P.S. Sikhiwiki, I know you have the power to delete this and so you probably will, but heres a challenge... Leave it up and lets see if anyone has the knowledge to prove me wrong, the power to be able to say something about this topic.

Yours truly,

mannii.

The Truth of Ik Onkar

Ik onkar, as in one god... This was already created by Shri Guru Ravidass Maharaj Ji... "So hung," one god.

Secondly, if you call all these true saints like Shri Guru Ravidass, Namdev, and Kabir Maharaj Ji bhagats, I say the ten gurus also have no right being called gurus.

Do you even know what a guru is? I wouldn't be surprised if you didnt, half the world dosent. Guru is a word made from 2 pharsee shabds, ga and ruu. Ga and ruu means the light that takes away darkness. Now wether you were one of the ten gurus or not, if you are a light that takes away darkness (like saints;; Ex: 108 Sant Baba Darshan dass ji, 108 Sant Baba Bhagwan dass ji etc.) then you are a guru. Therefore there is no way you or anyperson in the world has the right to call Shri Guru Ravidass, Kabir, Farid, Dhanna, Sadna, Sen, Tirlochan, and Namdev maharaj ji a bhagat.

IM PROUD TO SAY IM A RAVIDASSIAN THAT KNOWS THE TRUTH AND I WANT TO SPREAD IT ALL OVER THE WORLD. IM NOT AFRAID TO CALL MYSELF A RAVIDASSIAN, SO ALL YOU NEGATIVE THINKERS, RESPECT.

The pag

He didnt weat a pag because he beleived what counted was on the inside however, if you do wear pag it dosent mean its bad, im just saying you dont have to.

Legend of Shri Guru Ravidass Maharaj Ji Today

Today, Shri Guru Ravidass Maharaj Ji is starting to come out. Thanks to saints like 108 Sant baba bhagwan dass ji, 108 Sant baba ram anand ji and more the truth is starting to come out.

Last thing is, if Shri Guru Ravidass Maharaj Ji or any of the other guru ji's people like you call bhagats then I hope that you my freind, burn in hell.

Sikh is Guru & Kha Guru Ravidass Maharaj ji is Sikh

Panth ka koorar 'Kha Rajender Singh Sikh.' is nothing more than a barking tounge of of my mother's Orders. . jyyse myy avyy Ksm ke baxe 3yysa kr.a Sb2 vicar o Sikho!!

hukm rzaee cllxa. ( first step of Sikhi.) Orders' spirit Will Walk

• Sikhs will walk the way of the spirit of Thy Orders.

Guru Ravidass Maharaj ji hukmyy jy buJyy 3 haumyy khy na koei Guru Ravidass Maharaj ji Orders if understood ego vomvit no One.

• O Ravidassry! if only orders were understood, no one will ever vomvit ego. ( Second Step of Sikhi.)

miT3 neve nanka gux c.giaaiaa 3333. Humillity utmost Nanak virtues goodness FinalWord.

• Utmost humility, O Nanka!, is the final one word squeezed out of all the human vitues & goodness prevailing in the universe & universes beyond.

bin gux kee3y Bg3 na hoy. without humility service not realised.

• Without Utmost humility Service to Guru can not be realised

Stigur kee syva safal hyy jy ko kryy cit laaee'' Gurbani's service realised CanBe OnlyIf ASikh HisHeartAndSoul Commits

• Gurbani's service can be realised, only if a Sikh Commits his Heart & Soul.

Satgur ke syva

1. Hukam rzaee callna...........Humbly Demonstrate obedience withut any arguments, malias, hidden greeds or arrogance
2. Gaviyy ..........................Speak & Sing the unspoken Truths in GurbaniLanguage.
3. Suniyy ............................Listen to Gurbani
4. Manniyy............................Believe in Gurbani
5. Man rakhiyy bhau ..................Stay focused on the quentiscece of Gurbani....
6. Nanak Sachy kee Sachee Kaar........while executing Gurbani on ground as Team Khalsa.
7. Gadiyy Shabad Sachee Taksaal ......Against all odds Consistently Craft & Document True Ideas ........................................to evolve it into a big Bank so that others can learn from History

--One 09:19, 10 September 2008 (UTC)