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Hello, Sat Sri Akal, W.K.W.F: Sarbjeet 1313me Ji! A very warm welcome from SikhiWiki and many thanks for your contributions so far. I hope you will keep visiting this website and that you will help us enhance it by checking it, amending it, by adding to it, by discussing issues on the discussion pages, etc. Please feel free to add to or amend any of the topics that you have knowledge about. Don't worry about making mistakes, as these can be easily corrected.

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With Waheguru's kirpa, may you always remain in Chardi kala. Many thanks, Hari Singh 08:20, 21 July 2007 (EDT)

Keshdhari

Sarbjeet ji, Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh

Many thanks for your contribution on this topic but I think (and believe) that the definition is not strictly correct according to Gurbani and in particular Sri Guru Granth Sahib. Doesn't this Shabad give a definition of a Sikh - Maharaj says:

The mention of Kesh is not there. I wonder where it in Gurbani it says that a Sikh MUST have Kesh and that without Kesh the person cannot be a Sikhs?

Also, until 1699, it appears that there was no requirement for Sikhs to don a Turban and I wonder if all Sikhs kept their hair? Personally, I believe not. Also many Muslims were engaged in the Guru service but they remained Muslims - and there must have been many who followed the Gurus, but had not yet become "full" Sikhs - Surely here the word Sehajdhari applies and then they may don hair and turban and be called Keshdhari without actually taking Amrit.

I accept that after 1699, the requirement changed but only for the Khalsa. Some say that various famous Sikhs did not become Khalsa - ie? Bhai Nand Lal ji, Bhai Kanhaiya ji, etc. To me the word Keshdhari is relevant but it does not make the other word like Sehajdhari, Amritdhari, etc redundant.

That's my humble feelings - what do you say? das. Hari Singh 08:20, 21 July 2007 (EDT)

Punjab Sikhs

WaKaFa! Is this OK ?. I plan developing J & K Sikhs as a template with the hope that volunteers from other states will join in in future & we will get a broad idea about the qulity & quantiti of TRUE Sikhi. in India. We may even quantify, compare & publish the Sikhi index state & country wise ete . Similar exercise may catch on where in Sikhs from other countries pick up the string & flawlessly knit the Khalsa Web the word over. Aim of the whole ex being lrning...Learn WHAT????... nothing but TRUTH god's Language

• Learn NAAM JAAN
• Help others Learn NAAM DAAN
• Correct the mistakes in learning .NAAM ISHNAAN

What Do you say ?? SatGurBani Fateh!--Mutia 07:14, 20 July 2007 (EDT)

Articles by Sarbjeet Singh Sethi,Jammu J&K Guru Nanak Dev ji has also visited Leh and Kargil districts of jammu and Kashmir state. Historical gurudwaras are situated at both the places.In leh district 'Pathar Sahib' is situated at 27 km from Leh city. Category :Gurdwaras in Jammu and Kashmir Gurdwara Charan Kamal Sahib KARGIL<LADAKH> A historical Gurdwara is situated in the outsquirt of Kargil city in the memory of Guru Nanak Dev ji Maharaj near the Bank of Suru River.

Nanak in J & K

Guru Nanak Dev ji's visits to Leh and Kargil districts of jammu and Kashmir stand marked by historical gurudwaras as under:-

• Leh district--Gurdwa 'Pathar Sahib' situated 27 km from Leh city.
• Kargil city-- Gurdwara Charan Kamal Sahib situated on the out skirts of the city on the the Bank of Suru River.

---Sarbjeet 1313me Singh Sethi

Category :Gurdwaras in J & K, India

Sarabjeet je WaKaFa! I am Amita Singh & welcome on SikhiWiki ,I organised your text a bit to to make it easy for you to aquint yourself with the formats ete to begin with. just start writing. We at SikhiWiki help each other & will take you along. Look forward to you being comfortable with the leyouts ete.

Feel free to interact with other users through the talk pages or through emails (where ever available in the profiles of individual users) Do not worry if you make mistakes . If you want to write about Gurdwaras ete just extend the text above . There are other Users who will follow it up & guide you . just feel dashing & bindaas. It is Sach Khand, Sikh.s, Sikhi. & ideas all over. Seeing you & looking forward to more intimate associations.

Gur Fateh WaKaFa ! User: Mutia 17 Jul 07

Thanks Amita Singh ji

WJKKWJKF Thanks fr encouraging me. Pl read article 'J&K SIKH' Guru Fateh :sarbjeet_1313me

Dear Sarbjeet Singh ji WaKaFa! thanks for your interest & staying with the site. I am a girl and writer by Profession , Located in Delhi .I write on SikhiWiki as Gurbani expects us to do GurSeva (Seva of SatGurBani).

As I can appreciate from spirit of your letter that God ( Nanak prefers to refer to God as 'TRUTH god' because true Name of GOD is 'TRUTH'. i. e. SatNaam as is written in the beginning of Mool Mantar. ) has blessed you with the intellect to read SatGurBani written on your heart. SatGurBani was not written by our gurus. It is already written on every body's heart. Gurus just copied it on paper for us to get guided for reading it from our heart ( they sacrificed themself for doing this) .

A Sikh is called a TRUE Sikh. only when he learns to read Gurbani from his / her heart . Gurbani is GOD's language written on every one's heart. By repeatedly listening to, speaking / singing ,& pondering over the meaning one becomes fluent in understanding the TRUE meaning conveyed by it. This is TRUE Sikhi..

In this writing I have included some links relevant to the persona of TRUE Sikh. & his his/ her TRUE Sikhi. . Do share your mind with other users on any Issues which you think are worth discussing keeping in mind Our Gurus' thumb rule on practicing Sikhi. as given in this tuk of Bani ...hum nhin changy bura nahin koy....... First we must correct ourselves before we discuss stupidities of others.

As a new guest to the house needs guidance about the lay out of the rooms, location of switches etc, please permit me to give you a broad lay out of our house called Sikhi . Better still, we need to treat this web site not as a mere Web Site but a Gurdwara. It is an IT age Gurdwara. I love to call this Gurdwara it self as Sikhi by hiding its 'Wiki' part of the name from the readers but not from the Server . Here are a few points about Sikhi (layout ) of Sikhi( this Gurdwara)

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Two articles initiated by you titled 'Nanak in J & K' and 'J & K Sikhs' have been named that way on two different Article Pages. From now on, I plan working with you as a team on J & K Sikhs Page. Try writing your views on this page after practicing a bit on a page called Sand Bag .You should be able to get the link of 'Sand Bag' from this-->>'HELP!'page 'Sand Bag' is some thing like a place where one learns driving before actually driving in heavy traffic. For details of how to work on Sikhi. (this Web Site) click here --->>>> HELP!

In my next communication I plan sharing my mind with you on the issue of Punjab Sikhs as you rightfully expressed your concern about Stay in touch .  ! I know J & K well as my father was posted there about a few years back . Bye for now. & Gur Fateh .....User: Mutia

Amita Singh ji,WJKKWJKF Thanks again fr guiding me. I am an engineer by proffession and in govt service.Presently i am serving Rural Development Deptt. as Junior Engineer. I m very much interested in Sikhism and its Values .I wd like 2 write more about J & K Sikhs. Guru Fateh : Sarbjeet_1313me

Punjab Sikhs

Amita ji,WJKKWJKF, U hv already guided me a lot but being a new user I m still little bit confused as on which page i have 2 write on Article page or on my user page?Pl guide me Guru Fateh : sarbjeet

Keshdhari Sikhs

Hari Singh ji,WJKKWJKF, I fully respect ur views but hv difference of opinion on some points.U said kesh were nt imp up2 9th Nanak but tell me which follower of 10 Nanaks was without Kesh.The concept of Keshes are very imp in the present scenario.Kesh r the 1st step 2wards sikhìsm.The Sikh Sangat of J&K is fully adhered 2 this concept of ARDAS "Sikhi kesa suasa sang nibhai".U can see Sikhs of J&K in chardi kala and Siki Saroop. 'Sir Galti baste muafi' Guru Fateh sarbjeet_1313me JAMMU 21 july 2007