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== Definitions ==
== Thanks ==
Amita ji,WJKKWJKF,


Dear Amita Singh Ji, WKWF
Thanks for helping me in trying to remove the misinfomation at Wikipedia by adding a request on the talk page of magnetic hill.U were the first who guided me on this [[Sikhiwiki]] when i entered here.
U r a treasure of Gurbani but i request u that the words of Gurbani should not be inserted in every article. Articles should be in simple english so that persons like me having less knowledge  should be able to understand. There may be special Articles for explaining Gurbani and its teachings.
I have also tried ur email but could not find ur reply.
May Waheguru give u more and more Power of Gurbani.


It's nice to see your name on the recent changes list. I hope you have succeeded in getting a job! I hope things are keeping well. My Fateh to all your family and friends.
Guru Fateh.Er. Sarbjeet Singh,Jammu [[user:sarbjeet_1313me]]11 Sept 2007
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I have made some small changes to the above article regarding the srigranth template so that it finds the actual line of the Shabad and minor additions to the tuk displayed – I hope this is Ok with you. If not, I will put it back to the original.


My spell-check changed the spelling to the one shown above - Should it be spelt as above or as it appears at the article? Please let me know and we can rename the article.
Amita ji,
waiting for ur reply.why r u keeping yourself out from sachkhand.


I have archived the older postings from this page to a separate page – I hope this will be OK?
[[user:sarbjeet_1313me]]


Is it possible to get translation of Bhai Gurdas Ji into English of all of the Vaaras?
16 Sept 2007


Kind regards and keep up the good work. --[[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 11:27, 3 August 2006 (CDT)


== How are Things? ==
who is using this account?


Hi Amita Singh
Sarbjeet Singh


How are things? Haven't seen you here as much - I hope all is well and you have found a good job after all those studies!! --[[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 09:02, 22 August 2006 (CDT)
== wiki-etiquette - adding to the User page ==


::Hi Amita, WKWF, Many thanks for your lovely message - it was indeed a pleasure talking and I hope you did not consider it a burden. Please pass me hearty greetings to both you parents, my dear brother and bhabiji, who I may have spoken to before we exchanged our words. No, coming to London is no dream but something that will happen very soon. I will pass your hello onto both the our kids. Please don't worry too much about your absence from Sikhiwiki, but it nice to see your entries there now and then – So if get free time, please just keep an eye on things. As I said before, we have a reasonable base and we only need to improve on what we already have – but please don't forget it completely!! Please look after yourself and I await your details on postage either by email or a post here on Sikhiwiki. --[[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 13:07, 25 August 2006 (CDT)
Amita ji,


== Translation of Punjabi Hukamnanas ==
Please do not add text to user pages as this is the domain of the user - If you wish to communicate with the user, it must be via their user talk/discussion page. The user should be left alone to create their own user page, if they wish. If they ask for your help, only then should you help - but even then by adding text to the talk page and letting them transfer this text to their own user site.


Respected Amita Singh Ji, Guru di fateh,
Also, communication on the user talk page should be kept simple, textual and not graphical, polite and welcoming. Please observe this "wiki-etiquette". Many thanks. das, [[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 19:50, 11 September 2007 (EDT)


I hope everyone is keeping well.
==Main keha gah ee pa taa==
Ki ho gaya kithey kho gaye see badey dina baad darshan hoyae. [[user:paapi]]


I was wondering if it was possible to get a English translation of the Hukamnans of the Akal Takhat. I have found this PDF file at:
WELCOME BACK
* [http://www.sgpc.net/hukamname_Aadesh_Sandesh.pdf#search=%22HUKAMNAME%20ADESH%20SANDESH...%22  Download PDF file - Hukaname Adesh Sandesh]


This is in Punjabi and as my speed of Punjabi is about 9wpm, it will take me forever. I wonder if it is possible to translate the contents page and create a list of all Hukamnamas issued by Akal Takhat.
[[user:sarbjeet_1313me]]


Your help would be most appreciated, many thanks, --[[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 09:43, 28 September 2006 (CDT)
30 Sept 2007


== Hukamnama ==
==Work==
1.This article is based on [[SatGurBani]].


Dear Amita ji,  
[[Gurbani]] is ONE & only One scripture of [[Sikh.]]s of the world. It manifests it self & is preceived by TRUE [[Sikh.]]s as TRUE Guru, TRUE God, [[Khalsa|TRUE Sikh]], & [[Khalsa|Humanity]] & [[Khalsa|Sikh Society]], all in ONE.   


The Darpan link has been added to the Hukamnama - I hope this now meets with your approval. Many thanks for the recommendation. --[[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 19:53, 11 October 2006 (CDT)
Bhai Gurdas ji was was responsible for writing the first compilation of [[SatGurBani]]. While Guru Arjan Dev ji dictated the Bani, Bhai Sahib put the words to paper. He, after Gurus, is recognised as the first "Scholar of Sikhism", His own writings, 'Varan Bhai Gurdas' were acknoledged by Guru Arjan Dev, as "the Key to [[SatGurBani]]". The Varan also offer clear supplementry guidance on this subject


== Development of Sikhiwiki ==
'''''s3gurr ke baxe s3 s3 kr janu, gursiKau hr kar3a aap muho kaDae"


Further to your suggestion, I have listed points for the development of Sikhiwiki [[Talk:SikhiWiki|here]]. Please have a look and add your comments on my [[User talk:Hari singh|user page]] or under the [[SikhiWiki]] article [[Talk:SikhiWiki|talk page]]. It's good to have positive pending items - It is a constant motivation to do something when time is available! - you can never get bored, when things are pending. Many thanks for your continued help. --[[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 22:07, 21 October 2006 (CDT)
O GurSikhs, Bani is Flawless & TRUE. Lord TRUTH hir self Make it gracefully flow from the lips " sggs p308


===Setup Learning system for Anand Sahib===
== Edit does not work? - It works for me! ==
You asked: <<< should it be '''Japuji''' to begin with? What is the outline of the plan ? and related Hows?!>>> We have a simple Listen, Look and Learn systen for Japji Sahib [[Japji Sahib Ji|here]]. Have a look and see if this would be helpful to have one for Anand Sahib as well? --[[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 21:06, 23 October 2006 (CDT)


==  Template:HappyGurpurab ==
Respected Mutia Ji


Sorry, but I had to change back this template as your changes made the 2 columns on the main page uneven; also some other changes in colours were to be made today to highlight the contents.
I have looked at this "Editing" problem and the system appears to work fine with me. Can you tell me which article appears to have a problem? Many thanks, [[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 10:40, 13 November 2007 (MST)


I have created a link to a new page [[Sayth Nanak]] which contains your text. I suggest that more short quotes from Gurbani are added to this page showing the important messages of Guru Nanak for the world. --[[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 19:55, 4 November 2006 (MST)
== Gurmukhi text ==


==Sir pappi de wee sun lavo==
Mutia ji, {{SSA}}


What is Mutia?? Is it your Sir name? Paap Punn doy ek saman... Gur Gopy jo Aapna.............How can a sin and punn are ek samaan well can you tell me lines after these and before these actually i am not able to understand these. [[user:paapi]] Very Paapi
I have reverted two articles which you "amended" earlier. Please note that this amendment actually made the text appear incorrectly on other system using the Unicode font system. Please refer to [[SikhiWiki:Using Punjabi on SikhiWiki]] to make your system Unicode compliant as this is now the de facto system for displaying and using multiple fonts. Many thanks & kind regards, [[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 17:12, 21 March 2008 (MDT)


==ok i can understand==
== adding Siri_Singh_Sahib_Harbhajan_Singh_Khalsa_Yogi to template ==


Paap Punn doe ek samaan..........
Siri_Singh_Sahib_Harbhajan_Singh_Khalsa_Yogi never said he was a Guru - please provide proof before you make such un-established statements. I am sorry but I have reverted the changes that you made. SikhiWiki must only support facts that are true and supported by evidence. [[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 09:31, 16 April 2008 (MDT)


Manukh paap wee kardaa hai, punn kardaa hai - Fir galat karam kanda ch pea rehnda like chori, rishwat, 5 evils, etc. etc. (i will not display the list) '''FOr that person''' - Paap punn dohe ek saamaan
== Please, articles must adhere to the guidelines laid down ==


koor kriya urjheo jag mein
Mutia ji, {{WKWF}}
sri bhagwaan ka bhed naa paeoo


Well tell me are you rigid toward sikhism i mean are you a rigid sikh.....sikhism support rigidity??????
I sorry but the article "Truth" does not comply with our guidelines - There must be a clear message in the articles which if possible should be linked to Gurbani or Sikh history. The article needs to be coherent and in a defined format - please see [[Help:Contents#Advanced_Wiki|SikhiWiki Help]] especially the manual of style. Please try and re-write in accordance with the requirement listed there. Many thanks and kind regards, [[user:hari singh|Hari Singh]]<sup>[[User talk:Hari singh|talk]]</sup> 07:19, 11 May 2008 (MDT)
 
[[user:paapi|paapi]] - The great Sinner
 
 
==User Mutia==
 
Its great to read about ==Health, Happiness & Holiness:Origin of==. You are right after reading i got that you deal with Khalsa and you are the true khalsa. I want to write on the cults like Sant Nirankari, Namdhari, Radhasoami.................In punjab radhasoamis are enjoying top leval.
 
Today lok sharaab, nashey nahin chadade t nave sects and cults janam lai lainde [[Sects & Cults]].
 
What do you think of radhasoamis and how they are related with sikhism........
 
Tusee naam lita hoya aa koi???
 
Well you answers very late i dont know why
 
==That's really fantastic answers==
 
Its amazing, unbelievable, fantastic, lovely, great (etc...) answers you have given. I can call you a brahmgiani Khalsa Mutia(Sorry dont know your name).
 
Inhi ke kirpa kae saje hum hain , nahin moh sae gareeb karor pare
 
Thanks for giving more zajbaa
 
From where you are who are you ?? i am not getting you i have read your user page......that i know you are khalsa but i want to know your DUNIYAAVI IDENTITY(send me the link)
 
''q. Do let me know more about yourself, your skills & future plans ??''
 
A. Well sorry to say i cant tell me about myself, (Khalsa Nu pehchanana Difficult hee nahin namunkin hai, Khalsa mere mann ch hai tan te nahin)
 
Khalsa kisey ton darda nahin
apnaa Zikar kisey aggae kardaa nahin
Kyon kae maan hai khalsa hon te mainu
Kisi hor noo kujh samjhda hee nahin
 
My skills = Khalsa Skills (that you all know)
 
'''Shareer nahin khalsae wargaa te kee hoya, man taan hai'''
 
Future Plans -
 
I want to show world what is khalsa, My co curricular activities(studiea) are going on. main activity is to walk on khalsa way and to make other walk.
 
Now tell me who are you
 
==Lucky Wallon Sat Shri Akaal==
 
as you specify the format above i am doing the same.
 
You are Giani, Dhiani, Weechari, Gurmukh, Khalsa man. i want to share a prob which i am facing rite know. Mera mann jayaada der tak sthir nahin rehndaa i mean zayaada der tak tikdaa nahin. Like in studies, or any other work. man duniyaa ch bohot bhatkdaa hai.
 
'''Jae man te kaabu pavaangaa taanhi khalsaa kehlaawaan gaa kyon kae man jeetae jag jeet'''
 
So tell me acc. to gurbani how to control yourself, Man chanchal hai is nu sthir kiven banawaan. user hpt_lucky
 
My yahoo id is [email protected] just add me by clicking on add and write "hpt_lucky" in it. Or gmail [email protected].
 
Enjoy Khalsa Life
 
==Thanks==
 
Thats is really great. Well khalsa oh hai jo pardaa nahin, apnanoonda e.
 
'''jay ko aakhai boluvigaarh''' - this time u r guru 4 me
 
'''Guru Mere Sang Sanda ahi nale''' is '''lai man jeete jag jeet'''. And this timee you are guru for me.
 
hoon main jayaada na likh kae kitaab fardaa and thanks for great great - (unlimited) and amolak suggestion. ok bye
 
== We need to conform to the Wiki standard! ==
 
Amita ji, WKWF
 
I am sorry I had to revert the changes on the [[Summary of Sikhism]] page as the changes you made completely distracted the reader from the full picture that the article is trying to convey.
 
As more users are contributing to the site, we need to set down stricter ground rules on the type, size, colour and combination of fonts that we use. I will be much obliged if we can all adopt a more traditional style of presentation on the main subject matter. On articles for children or unusual articles some extra feature may be useful but I humbly ask that we set a standard for others to follow. We need to stick to the basis system of presentation  - Please see guidelines at [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style]] relating to the type of styles relevant to an encyclopaedia such as SikhiWiki.
 
I appreciate that at times we need to add colour and boldness but due to the use of many different browsers, some of the large fonts are so big as to be unreadable. On some of your articles, I am not even able to read the text because it is all jambled over each other and completely over-crowded. Please keep the maximum fonts size restricted to the size of heading as in:
 
==This is a heading==
 
And use this size very sparingly. Also please use only a maximum of 3 different sizes of fonts on the whole page. Another thing that we need to be careful about is the fact that it is very difficult to read "Roman Punjabi" which refers to – Punjabi - English akara-ch lee-kani. This is fine for messages but can be very difficult for non-Punjabis to read and can become a hindrance when used in articles. Only use it when it is part of a Gurbani Tuk like:
 
* <big>ਜਿਸ  ਦਾ  ਦਿਤਾ  ਸਭ੝  ਕਿਛ੝  ਲੈਣਾ  ॥</big> <br>jis daa ditaa sabh kichh lainaa. <br>Everything we receive is a gift from Him.
 
My only motivation in posting this message is to make SikhiWiki more acceptable to more users and I hope you will agree that what I have said will make the presentation more uniform and give SikhiWiki a more polished and "acceptable" image in the community – which hopefully, will invite more users to read the content. My comments are meant as a help and should be taken as frank and "fatherly" advise from one users to another. There is no bitterness in my thinking and I beg you to accept these words in that context. Please excuse my interference but I wish us all to continue to make maximum progress with this project. I hope my words make some sense but if they don't, I apologise and I will endeavour to be more meaningful in future. Please forgive my trespass. With Guru's kirpa may we all make even better and more useful contributions to the Guru's mission, which hopefully will reach many thousands of others who will gain from the experience. Raab Raakha, [[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 16:29, 19 February 2007 (MST)
 
==A line for you==
 
Dithey Sabey Thaanv Nahin Tudh Jehaa
 
Salute to gurbani master
wjkk wjkf keep in touch
[[user:paapi]]
 
==Answer from Sinner The paapi==
 
'''Coming into contact with the sinful human body, the food becomes so impure that is is spat upon.'''
Today everybuddy like that type of food, But who takes god name is prevented from my prakoop, But what about that guys
 
''jinna dae ghar ch granth peendae shraaban nae,
 
gatre paye chakee khande dee dhaar baithey,
 
Ona nae kee paapi ton bachnaa doston
 
narkaan layee taan oh pehlan hee tayaar baithey''
 
'''It is greedy, deceitful, sinful and hypocritical, and totally attached to Maya.'''
 
Well Maya da wee moh hai sareean nu maithon kiven koi bachoo
 
'''The Lord Himself is the Protector of His devotees; what can the sinner do to them?'''
 
Odey waastey rabb dae naam tae chalnaa zarooree hai, tae paapi ona noo chalan nahin davoo, tae jinna nu mera bhed samjh ch aa gaya, paapi kyaa paap is jag ton maroo.
 
'''One who does not obtain the Association of the True Guru, is a most unfortunate sinner; he is consumed by the Messenger of Death.''' 
 
Well Granth sahib ch bohot kujh likhyaa mutiaa jee, But saarey [[user:paapi|mere wal]] aunday nae..........Koi granth sahib noo parna nahin chahundaa, Jera pardaa oh wichaarna nahin chahundaa, jera weechardaa oh weechaar kae bhul jaoonda.............paapi ethey wee jit prapat kar jaoondaa.....
 
[[user:paapi]]Time ( In control of me)

Latest revision as of 07:19, 11 May 2008

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This page was last Archived on 11 Sep 07. Previous contents moved to:

Thanks

Amita ji,WJKKWJKF,

Thanks for helping me in trying to remove the misinfomation at Wikipedia by adding a request on the talk page of magnetic hill.U were the first who guided me on this Sikhiwiki when i entered here. U r a treasure of Gurbani but i request u that the words of Gurbani should not be inserted in every article. Articles should be in simple english so that persons like me having less knowledge should be able to understand. There may be special Articles for explaining Gurbani and its teachings. I have also tried ur email but could not find ur reply. May Waheguru give u more and more Power of Gurbani.

Guru Fateh.Er. Sarbjeet Singh,Jammu user:sarbjeet_1313me11 Sept 2007



Amita ji, waiting for ur reply.why r u keeping yourself out from sachkhand.

user:sarbjeet_1313me

16 Sept 2007


who is using this account?

Sarbjeet Singh

wiki-etiquette - adding to the User page

Amita ji,

Please do not add text to user pages as this is the domain of the user - If you wish to communicate with the user, it must be via their user talk/discussion page. The user should be left alone to create their own user page, if they wish. If they ask for your help, only then should you help - but even then by adding text to the talk page and letting them transfer this text to their own user site.

Also, communication on the user talk page should be kept simple, textual and not graphical, polite and welcoming. Please observe this "wiki-etiquette". Many thanks. das, Hari Singh 19:50, 11 September 2007 (EDT)

Main keha gah ee pa taa

Ki ho gaya kithey kho gaye see badey dina baad darshan hoyae. user:paapi

WELCOME BACK

user:sarbjeet_1313me

30 Sept 2007

Work

1.This article is based on SatGurBani.

Gurbani is ONE & only One scripture of Sikh.s of the world. It manifests it self & is preceived by TRUE Sikh.s as TRUE Guru, TRUE God, TRUE Sikh, & Humanity & Sikh Society, all in ONE.

Bhai Gurdas ji was was responsible for writing the first compilation of SatGurBani. While Guru Arjan Dev ji dictated the Bani, Bhai Sahib put the words to paper. He, after Gurus, is recognised as the first "Scholar of Sikhism", His own writings, 'Varan Bhai Gurdas' were acknoledged by Guru Arjan Dev, as "the Key to SatGurBani". The Varan also offer clear supplementry guidance on this subject

s3gurr ke baxe s3 s3 kr janu, gursiKau hr kar3a aap muho kaDae"

O GurSikhs, Bani is Flawless & TRUE. Lord TRUTH hir self Make it gracefully flow from the lips " sggs p308

Edit does not work? - It works for me!

Respected Mutia Ji

I have looked at this "Editing" problem and the system appears to work fine with me. Can you tell me which article appears to have a problem? Many thanks, Hari Singh 10:40, 13 November 2007 (MST)

Gurmukhi text

Mutia ji, Sat Sri Akal

I have reverted two articles which you "amended" earlier. Please note that this amendment actually made the text appear incorrectly on other system using the Unicode font system. Please refer to SikhiWiki:Using Punjabi on SikhiWiki to make your system Unicode compliant as this is now the de facto system for displaying and using multiple fonts. Many thanks & kind regards, Hari Singh 17:12, 21 March 2008 (MDT)

adding Siri_Singh_Sahib_Harbhajan_Singh_Khalsa_Yogi to template

Siri_Singh_Sahib_Harbhajan_Singh_Khalsa_Yogi never said he was a Guru - please provide proof before you make such un-established statements. I am sorry but I have reverted the changes that you made. SikhiWiki must only support facts that are true and supported by evidence. Hari Singh 09:31, 16 April 2008 (MDT)

Please, articles must adhere to the guidelines laid down

Mutia ji, Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh

I sorry but the article "Truth" does not comply with our guidelines - There must be a clear message in the articles which if possible should be linked to Gurbani or Sikh history. The article needs to be coherent and in a defined format - please see SikhiWiki Help especially the manual of style. Please try and re-write in accordance with the requirement listed there. Many thanks and kind regards, Hari Singhtalk 07:19, 11 May 2008 (MDT)