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From woman, woman is born; without woman, there would be no one at all. |Guru Nanak, Raag Aasaa Mehal 1, Page 473}}
From woman, woman is born; without woman, there would be no one at all. |Guru Nanak, Raag Aasaa Mehal 1, Page 473}}


These are words that were uttered by the founder of [[Sikhism]], Sri [[Guru Nanak Dev]] in about 1499. So for [[Sikh]]s from that period, there has been compulsion to treat women as equals and gender discrimination was not allowed. [[Guru Gobind Singh]]'s also confirmed the equality by saying the line "Manas Kee Jaat Sabhey Ekey Pehchanboo" - ''"Regard all of human race as one"''.
These are words that were uttered by the founder of [[Sikhism]], Sri [[Guru Nanak Dev]] in about [[1499]]. So for [[Sikh]]s from that period, there has been compulsion to treat women as equals and gender discrimination was not allowed. [[Guru Gobind Singh]]'s also confirmed the equality by saying the line "Manas Kee Jaat Sabhey Ekey Pehchanboo" - ''"Regard all of human race as one"''.


The following are some of the facts that one finds in modern type of Sikh men.  
However, the true message of the Guru has not been understood by society even today more than 500 years after these famous sacred words were said by the holy Guru.  


'''Some comments by Sikh girls?:'''
==Killing Hair==
* Misuse of equality? See, this is what frustrates me also. As a Sikh girl in the UK, I'm still in school and im at the stage where I question everything....
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If Sikh men...can drink...why cant Sikh women? Sikhs are the most notorious drinkers!! its a fact!! If a man drinks so can his wife. If the man doesn't want his wife to drink he should stop also.
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"[[Kesh]]" is one of the five [[kakkar]]s of Sikhism. In [[Sikhism]] to cut hair is considered a sin and by doing so is called [[Patit]]. Today both girls and boys  believe in artificial look; the true image as given by God is found to be lacking. So they want to give their own look by cutting hair in different wild styles. [[Kanga]] is provided to set up the hair and keep them clean but in vain. Thus they are disobeying the Guru's order. Although this applies to both boys and girls, the girls are more aggressive and more extreme with this habit; seldom do you find a girl who tries to maintain the [[kesh]] - the long hair on the scalp; they quickly reach for the barber's scissor as soon as possible.
 
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Hair is a characteristic feature of mammals, commonly known as "Hairy quadrupeds" - a group of animals that mark the climax of evolution. Mammals are also the dominant animals in the world today, due partly to their ability to regulate body temperature in the face of variations in environmental temperature. This requires regulation of heat production and heat loss by the body. Hair plays an important role in regulating heat loss from the body.  
 
===Man Lost Tail for Hair===
 
Human kind marks the climax of evolution even among mammals, and has the most complex and highly developed brain, and in normal circumstances, the longest hair on head. This feature cannot be without reason. It cannot be a matter of mere chance or a mistake by nature, because if the tails has been lost the hair too could have been lost. On the contrary, human head-hair has increased manifold as compared to other mammals.


* and a girl can do what a guy can do! Sikh girls are the daughters of Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj, they too have the spirit of a lion within them. people should not forget that! I hate being told that i cant do something when the implication of the reasoning is that im a girl, and if i was a boy i would be allowed to!
===Body's Extended Surface Area===


* the day sikh boys learn to treat women with more respect, and show some admiration towards girls who conduct themselves with dignity is the day sikh girls wont feel the need to expose themselves.
This dense and long growth of hair on the head shows that the body is trying to increase the surface area for some particular function. Such a trend to increase the surface area is seen in every system of the body, e.g. the highly coiled intestines with finger-like villi on their inner surfaces for absorption of digested food;etc
It works both ways!


I am a canadian woman from British Columbia.  My father is Sikh, my mom Jewish, my grandparents Janist and hindu in one set, and Russian Orthadox and Jew in the other.  My family has a fair bit of religious diversity from wiccans and catholics to atheists.  Many years ago I did study sociology and psychology.  I was raised neither Sikh nor Jewish in the typical north american style of go to church for people getting married or funerals which often they had at christian churches despite their views because at the time there weren't always temples or churches for their own beliefs around.
===Functions of Hair===


I admit I am new to Sikhism as I didn't get much exposure as a child.  But by what I have read if they believe in equality what is the problem?  Men go topless sometimes or showing their chest.  I have no intention of doing that though a woman in a city I used to live in challenged it and won the right in Maple Ridge, BC, Canada.  I see nothing wrong with us wearing gender neutral cloths.  I have seen some women with turbans though it is not so common here.  I have seen men wear kilts and other things North American's would call "dresses" which are historical mens traditional clothing.  Most of us I think are aware of how we dress.  If I wear a sari it doesn't mean I'm being a seductress, etc.  To me I am just wearing a sari and I like the way it looks.  Its others jumping to conclusions perhaps because they aren't used to the style of dress.  Is wearing a two piece bathing suit making you a person asking for trouble?  I don't think so some men wear speedo's.  Frankly I find those vulgar as they leave nothing tot he imagination and just don't look so great.  But that is my personal opinion and I'm not going to be mean to a man for it.  As for me I wear a one peice or a tank ini which is a tank that covers your mid section and a skirt like bottom.  Its what I like and I know I don't look good in a bikini.  When we came into this world we were nude with no regard for clothing unless we felt cold.  Because it is cold out we are likely to leave this world clothed.  Children are a clean slate without judgment which they form with life experience and mentoring.  It isn't until we stigmatize the human body and sexualize it that it takes on that form.  If we view it simply as a body that comes in all shapes and sizes, that allows us to reproduce, create, survive, etc then we do not see it as evil.  It is man passing judgement that gives us conclusions that it is bad to be naked.  Most of us don't walk around naked because it is too cold for it and impracticable.  You can get hurt if your exposed so we cover ourselves for practical reasons.  Greek statues are a homage to the state we enter into this world.  Innocent and unassuming until we apply our own prejudices to it.  For example do you view a doctor as lewd for asking you to expose your body so they can assess a problem?  No they are not sexualizing you they are being matter of fact. So next time you look at man or woman and come to your conclusions ask if you are being objective and rational.
Hair performs a variety of functions. Some are :-


As we all know some sikh's cut their hair and some don't.  Oh wait that is wrong.  Lets be honest you all do even those that wear turbans and long braids.  You trim your hair.  My aunt grew her hair to about 2 inches above her ankle and her daughter let it go all the way to her bottom.  It is indeed long but you do cut it. You say it needs to be trim or kept in a state where it wont become dirty by hitting the floor, etc.  So before any of you get nasty on the hair issue remember that. Also the prohibition specifically said cutting hair.  From what I have read it doesn't translate as anything besides cutting. This means waxing, electrolosis, and threading is no problem because it pulls hair.  Now if you say it comments we should not kill hair.  Hair is already dead so pulling it is not killing it.  Hair is dead skin cells so is it alive or dead? Since this site wont let me enter the link.  Search on Google for "Is hair dead skin" then look at the answers.  I had originally pasted a link to Yahoo Answers which does clearly state hair is dead skin cells.
* Insulation and Protective Layer: Form an insulating coat on the body. Trap a layer of still air just outside the skin, and thereby reduce loss of heat by radiation and convection. Absorb harmful radiations from the sun. Protect from sun and rain.


Aggressive stance?  I have seen nothing that indicates that women aren't supposed to carry a dagger, and protect family. I don't think men or women are aggressive normally unless provoked or giving the illusion of it by playing around, joking, or acting.  If you stand up to someone it isn't aggressive.  You might call it that but it doesn't make it true. Doesn't it say we are to defend ourselves and our families?
* Filter and Diverter: Keep out coarse dust particles, as in eyelashes, hair in the nasal chambers and ear canals. Eyebrows prevent water or perspiration from falling into eyes, due to their particular direction.


Now for drinking and drugs.  I thought in general it says we should do neither.  So if men are drinking as someone mentions they are already violating the rules.  As someone points out on one spot I read.  Sikh's do not have sin only betterment.  So perhaps they should try dealcholized products.  I've tried fake wine and cider it is quite good but no alcohol.  I don't smoke but I do have incense that I use occasionally(still makes smoke that is inhaled).
*Ball Bearings: Axillary and pubic hair lessen friction between limbs and body, and between limbs during locomotion.


I agree that it says we are equal so why can't someone do something based on ability not on gender?  Of course men can not carry and have babies in the same sense.  But there is no reason why a man can not be a stay at home dad or have babies through adoption or fostercare.  There is no reason a woman can't do a construction job or any of the old stereotyped male jobs.  I think "you can't do that because your a girl" is a statement that should be a thing of the past.  So is the comment that "boys don't do that you must be gay or something" is also out of line and just rude.  We are not a sexual orientation or a gender.  We are people. Some of us have a gift to offer in some area to our fellow man or nature.  Telling them they can't do that due to gender or orientation is a very sad thing.  What doe we all loose because of peoples discouragement?
* Evaporation: Axillary hair provide large surface area for evaporation of sweat.


As for respect it goes both ways. One of my half sisters and my mom are pretty awful in how they treat men. They view them as weak and as items to be used. I'm ashamed of them and their behavior.  I have a half brother who is a misogynistic jerk.  I similarly am ashamed of his attitude problem. - Saroja
* Beautify: Beautify the body (otherwise why people do not shave off their hair from the head completely; bald men are desperate and would pay any price to get back hair on their heads).
* Males Stand Out: Beard and moustaches are for differentiation of sex. Mostly males are decorated in nature, e.g. lion, peacock and other birds, deer, etc.


==Killing Hair==
*Antenas and Sensors: Vibrissae are sensory hair, tactile in nature and useful in dark burrows. Provide acute sensory mechanism to defend the body. Also, by standing on their ends, thereby making the body look bigger.
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"[[Kesh]]" is one of the five [[kakkar]]s of Sikhism. In [[Sikhism]] to cut hair is considered a sin and by doing so is called [[Patit]]. Today girls  believe in artificial look. They want to give their own look by cutting hair in different styles. [[Kanga]] is provided to set up the hair and keep them clean but in vain. Thus they are disobeying the Guru's order.


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Many people disobey Guru's order. But there is no actual sin in [[Sikhism]]; only self improvement.
Many people disobey Guru's order. But there is no actual sin in [[Sikhism]]; only self improvement and belief in [[Hukam]] - God's mission for us. Sin is a wrong which needs to be corrected by a payment or some sort of penance.... so penance is like, paying for a sin. This is not recognised as such in [[Sikhi]]. The Guru tells us that we are all sinners; that is why we have had to be reborn - So apart from a very few who have come to Earth to improve it, most of us are here for our own spiritual evolution or self-improvement.
Sin implies penance.... penance is like, paying for a sin. I'm just going to make up an example here...... erm, if your a Christian and you commit a sin, and you visit the priest; the priest may says "go to this church and climb up and down the stairs this many times and your sin will be forgiven"<< that is penance.


A Sikh is someone who:


A Sikh is someone who 1) Believes in the [[Guru Granth Sahib]] ji as the last eternal guru
::: 1) Believes in the [[Guru Granth Sahib]] ji as the eternal guru
                      
                      
                      2) is working towards becoming a [[Khalsa]].
::: 2) is working towards becoming a [[Khalsa]] - "spiritually pure".
 
I'm a bit of an in-between.


==Dressup & Nudity==   
==Dressup & Nudity==   

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From woman, man is born;

within woman, man is conceived; to woman he is engaged and married.
Woman becomes his friend; through woman, the future generations come.
When his woman dies, he seeks another woman; to woman he is bound.
So why call her bad? From her, kings are born.
From woman, woman is born; without woman, there would be no one at all.

Guru Nanak, Raag Aasaa Mehal 1, Page 473

These are words that were uttered by the founder of Sikhism, Sri Guru Nanak Dev in about 1499. So for Sikhs from that period, there has been compulsion to treat women as equals and gender discrimination was not allowed. Guru Gobind Singh's also confirmed the equality by saying the line "Manas Kee Jaat Sabhey Ekey Pehchanboo" - "Regard all of human race as one".

However, the true message of the Guru has not been understood by society even today more than 500 years after these famous sacred words were said by the holy Guru.

Killing Hair

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