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| ...info about Nanak's association With Ladakh. I have tried to blend your input with the text of the [[Nanak in J & K|article page]]. You can write directly into the article page itself. Any messages to other users , like this one which I am writing here can go it to The Talk pages. Do let me or any old hands at SikhiWiki know if we can improve anything any where.
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| The foundation of '[[Sikhi.]] working' on [[SikhiWiki|Sikhi, being]]..... working for [[Sikhi.]] of no other brand , but of [[Nanak]]'s brand.
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| ==SADA SACH HEE...==
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| * <u>'''SIKHO'''</u> (LEARN nothing but: O [[Sikh.]]o!! sirf [[1|TRUTH]] [[Bani|god's]] [[NAAM JAAN]]o!
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| * <u>'''SIKHAO)'''</u> (HELP OTHERS LEARN nothing but: O [[Sikh.]]o!! sirf [[1|TRUTH]] [[Gurbani|god's]] [[NAAM DAAN]] kro!
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| * <u>'''SOCHO aty SUDHARO'''</u> (introspect): O [[Sikh.]]o!! sirf [[1|TRUTH]] [[SatGurBani|god's]] [[NAAM ISHNAAN|NAAM naal he ISHNAAN]]kro!
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| [[SikhiWiki|Sikhi]] is growing that is heartening. stay in touch & motivate your friends & others to to join in. will be back. a bit in a hurry now --Mutia 08:27, 22 July 2007 (EDT)
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| '''Hello, Sat Sri Akal, W.K.W.F: {{BASEPAGENAME}} Ji!'''
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| A very warm welcome from '''SikhiWiki''' and many thanks for your contributions so far. I hope you will keep visiting this website and that you will help us enhance it by checking it, amending it, by adding to it, by discussing issues on the discussion pages, etc. Please feel free to add to or amend any of the topics that you have knowledge about. Don't worry about making mistakes, as these can be easily corrected.
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| [[Waheguru]]'s kirpa, may you always remain in [[Chardi kala]]. Many thanks, [[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 08:20, 21 July 2007 (EDT)}}</div>
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| | |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: bottom; height: 1.1em;color:#FF6600" | '''Dilwaalah da Tara<small> - The SikhiWiki man with a Heart</small>''' |
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| Many thanks for your contribution on this topic but I think (and believe) that the definition is not strictly correct according to [[Gurbani]] and in particular {{G11}}. Doesn't this [[Shabad]] give a definition of a Sikh - Maharaj says:
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| {{Srigranth|305|14019|<big>ਮਃ ੪ ॥ </big> <br>
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| <big>ਗਰ ਸਤਿਗਰ ਕਾ ਜੋ ਸਿਖ ਅਖਾਝ ਸ ਭਲਕੇ ਉਠਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮ ਧਿਆਵੈ ॥ </big> <br>
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| Gur saṯgur kĝ jo sikẖ akẖĝė so bẖalkė uṯẖ har nĝm ḝẖiĝvai. <br>
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| One who calls himself a Sikh of the Guru, the True Guru, shall rise in the early morning hours and meditate on the Lord's Name. <br>
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| <big>ਉਦਮ ਕਰੇ ਭਲਕੇ ਪਰਭਾਤੀ ਇਸਨਾਨ ਕਰੇ ਅੰਮਰਿਤ ਸਰਿ ਨਾਵੈ ॥ </big> <br>
| | Bhai sahib ji, {{WKWF}} |
| Uḝam karė bẖalkė parbẖĝṯī isnĝn karė amriṯ sar nĝvai. <br>
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| Upon arising early in the morning, he is to bathe, and cleanse himself in the pool of nectar. <br>
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| <big>ਉਪਦੇਸਿ ਗਰੂ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਜਪ ਜਾਪੈ ਸਭਿ ਕਿਲਵਿਖ ਪਾਪ ਦੋਖ ਲਹਿ ਜਾਵੈ ॥ </big> <br>
| | The backup is done. It was a very long list of messages. Please free to ask me again if you need this processed repeated or perhaps you want to try it yourself next time. Please feel free to ask either way. Kind regards, [[user:hari singh|Hari Singh]]<sup>[[User talk:Hari singh|talk]]</sup> 13:31, 8 February 2010 (UTC) |
| Upḝės gurū har har jap jĝpai sabẖ kilvikẖ pĝp ḝokẖ leh jĝvai. <br>
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| Following the Instructions of the Guru, he is to chant the Name of the Lord, Har, Har. All sins, misdeeds and negativity shall be erased. <br>
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| Fir cẖaṛai ḝivas gurbĝṇī gĝvai bahḝiĝ uṯẖḝiĝ har nĝm ḝẖiĝvai. <br>
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| Then, at the rising of the sun, he is to sing Gurbani; whether sitting down or standing up, he is to meditate on the Lord's Name. <br>
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| | Veerji, saw you were on, just wanted to say hello. 4am here . Rab Rakha |
| Jo sĝs girĝs ḝẖiĝė mėrĝ har har so gursikẖ gurū man bẖĝvai. <br>
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| One who meditates on my Lord, Har, Har, with every breath and every morsel of food - that GurSikh becomes pleasing to the Guru's Mind. <br>
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| Jis no ḝaiĝl hovai mėrĝ suĝmī ṯis gursikẖ gurū upḝės suṇĝvai. <br>
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| That person, unto whom my Lord and Master is kind and compassionate - upon that GurSikh, the Guru's Teachings are bestowed. <br>
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| <big>ਜਨ ਨਾਨਕ ਧੂੜਿ ਮੰਗੈ ਤਿਸ ਗਰਸਿਖ ਕੀ ਜੋ ਆਪਿ ਜਪੈ ਅਵਰਹ ਨਾਮ ਜਪਾਵੈ ॥੨॥ </big> <br>
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| Jan Nĝnak ḝẖūṛ mangai ṯis gursikẖ kī jo ĝp japai avrah nĝm japĝvai. ॥2॥ <br>
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| Servant Nanak begs for the dust of the feet of that GurSikh, who himself chants the Naam, and inspires others to chant it. ॥2॥}}
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| | Some people pay respects to material things belonging to the Guru as it connects them to the Guru and so to the Shabad Guru - the word or command of the Guru. The important thing is the shabad - the meaning in the words of Gurbani. We show deep respect and follow the words of the Guru - That is what we promise to do when we bow to the Guru. ''"Waheguru, I accept your words and your hukam"''. However, if we do not follow the shabad then the bowing is in vain; it is wasted. So as long as you learn and dwell on the words of the Guru then bow to whatever connects you to this word; that is the real meaning of bowing in Sikhi - bowing and accepting the shabad. |
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| I accept that after 1699, the requirement changed but only for the [[Khalsa]]. Some say that various famous Sikhs did not become Khalsa - ie? Bhai Nand Lal ji, [[Bhai Kanhaiya]] ji, etc. To me the word Keshdhari is relevant but it does not make the other word like Sehajdhari, Amritdhari, etc redundant.
| | Waheguru, mahar karan, may we learn and absorb the real meaning of Gurbani and follow Gurmat. Kind regards, [[user:hari singh|Hari Singh]]<sup>[[User talk:Hari singh|talk]]</sup> 23:50, 24 March 2010 (UTC) |
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| That's my humble feelings - what do you say? das. [[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 08:20, 21 July 2007 (EDT)
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| | Many thanks to you and S Mandeep Singh ji. I am only the delivery-man; the message I hope is as sent by the Guru through Gurbani. Please continue to spread the beautiful message of the tall, tall Guru who dwarfs us all; but with such an able leader, I don't think we can go wrong provide we continue to practise Gurmat as did the Sikhs like [[Baba Deep Singh]], etc. May he give us the strength and vision to stay on his path. |
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| | I am most grateful for the reminder; I will update the active user list in 2 or 3 days. Veer ji, Many thanks for your kind words; everyone in the family is very well by the grace of Guru Nanak; may his nadar prevail at all times. I hope the same applies to all your family. Keep in chardikala. Raab Rakha. [[user:hari singh|Hari Singh]]<sup>[[User talk:Hari singh|talk]]</sup> 03:19, 25 March 2010 (UTC) |
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| Guru Nanak Dev ji's visits to Leh and Kargil districts of jammu and Kashmir stand marked by historical gurudwaras as under:-
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| *'''Kargil city'''-- Gurdwara Charan Kamal Sahib situated on the out skirts of the city on the the Bank of Suru River.
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| | Sarbjeet ji, hope all is well in Jammu, have not seen or rather heard from you here in a long time. Hope all the family is well. |
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| Sarabjeet je WaKaFa!
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| I am [[User: Mutia|Amita Singh]] & welcome on [[SikhiWiki]] ,I organised your text a bit to to make it easy for you to aquint yourself with the formats ete to begin with. just start writing. We at SikhiWiki help each other & will take you along. Look forward to you being comfortable with the leyouts ete.
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| Feel free to interact with other users through the talk pages or through emails (where ever available in the profiles of individual users) Do not worry if you make mistakes . If you want to write about Gurdwaras ete just extend the text above . There are other Users who will follow it up & guide you . just feel dashing & bindaas. It is [[Sach Khand]], [[Sikh.]]s, [[Sikhi.]] & [[Compendium of TRUE IDEAs|ideas]] all over. Seeing you & looking forward to more intimate associations.
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| [[SatGurBani|Gur]] Fateh WaKaFa ! [[User: Mutia]] 17 Jul 07
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| WJKKWJKF Thanks fr encouraging me. Pl read article 'J&K SIKH' Guru Fateh :sarbjeet_1313me
| | I have come across a particular problem with Sikh boys marrying NRI girls and then divorcing them before the 2 years so that the girl has to leave UK and go back to her country of origin; they keep the dowry and all the items belonging to the girl. I want to investigate the viability of creating a database of these perpetrators so that this trend can be stemmed. I wonder if a database can be setup using Orkut or such platform to help bring these perpetrators to the attention of parents of girls in India and other NRI countries so that they can be better informed about these types of people. This trend is leading to a lot of misery for our young girls. |
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| WaKaFa! thanks for your interest & staying with the site. I am a girl and writer by Profession , Located in Delhi .I write on [[SikhiWiki]] as [[Gurbani]] expects us to do GurSeva (Seva of [[SatGurBani]]).
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| | The database should hold the pictures of the boy and/or his family - say up to 5 images in jpeg or other format; fields for his first name, surname and location details consisting of Town, County/District and Country; age and summary text field of 1000-5000 characters. Any help in setting up this would be most welcomed. Many thanks, [[user:hari singh|Hari Singh]]<sup>[[User talk:Hari singh|talk]]</sup> 23:02, 4 July 2010 (UTC) |
| [[SatGurBani]] was not written by our gurus. It is already written on every body's heart. Gurus just copied it on paper for us to get guided for reading it from our heart ( they sacrificed themself for doing this) . | |
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| | How are you? Do you have more pics of gurjrat guruduaras? ([[User:Hpt lucky|Lucky]] 08:16, 20 July 2010 (UTC)) |
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| In this writing I have included some links relevant to the persona of TRUE [[Sikh.]] & his his/ her TRUE [[Sikhi.]] . Do share your mind with other users on any [[Sikh Issues|Issues]] which you think are worth discussing keeping in mind Our Gurus' thumb rule on practicing [[Sikhi.]] as given in this tuk of Bani
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| ...'''''hum nhin changy bura nahin koy......'''''. First we must correct ourselves before we discuss stupidities of others.
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| As a new guest to the house needs guidance about the lay out of the rooms, location of switches etc, please permit me to give you a broad lay out of our house called [[SikhiWiki| Sikhi]] . Better still, we need to treat this web site not as a mere Web Site but a Gurdwara. It is an IT age Gurdwara. I love to call this Gurdwara it self as [[Sikhi]] by hiding its 'Wiki' part of the name from the readers but not from the Server . Here are a few points about Sikhi (layout ) of Sikhi( this Gurdwara)
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| *1.'''Article Pages''' The page which carries the articles being written by users. the name of the page becomes the Name of the page itself . Here we need to ensure that a correct name is given.
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| *2. '''Talk Pages''' On these pages other users write their comments on the Article.
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| *1. [[User:Sarbjeet 1313me|Your Personal Page]] : This is a personal page and every user is expected to introduse himself to all the other users about his name interests etc like I have done on [[User: Mutia|this]] page of mine. This is [[User:Sarbjeet 1313me|Your Personal Page]]. You can write about yourself some thing like you write in your bio-data submitted for applying for a job etc. Do not give any telephone Nos. In case you are comfortable with working on Net & with due approval from Senior members of your family, you may give your e mail address. It will helps other users of similar interests to communicate with you through email.
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| I have moved your letter written to me on my [[User Talk:Mutia|This]] User Talk Page.
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| Two articles initiated by you titled '[[Nanak in J & K]]' and '[[J & K Sikhs]]' have been named that way on two different Article Pages. From now on, I plan working with you as a team on [[J & K Sikhs]] Page. Try writing your views on this page after practicing a bit on a page called Sand Bag .You should be able to get the link of 'Sand Bag' from [http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Help:Contents this-->>'HELP!'page] 'Sand Bag' is some thing like a place where one learns driving before actually driving in heavy traffic. For details of how to work on [[Sikhi.]] (this Web Site) click here --->>>><font Size =5> [http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Help:Contents HELP!] </font>
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| Stay in touch . ! I know J & K well as my father was posted there about a few years back . Bye for now.
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| | Thanks for asking, with Guru's bakshish everything is keeping well here in the UK. Raab Rakha, [[user:hari singh|Hari Singh]]<sup>[[User talk:Hari singh|talk]]</sup> 11:31, 20 July 2010 (UTC) |
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| | This initiative by S. Balwant Singh Ramoowalia seems very good but I have a feeling this will take a long time - What I have in mind was a site like [http://wikileaks.org/ Wikileaks] - which is a database of wrongs hidden away by governments and large organisation - we need to setup a NRI abusers database so that all the girls who have had a bad experience can submit the picture and details of the abuser. |
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| * Are you Amritdhari or Kesdhari(Just) or Rauda sikh???
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| * If you belongs to Jammu then do one thing if u can visit near by gurudwars and click soome images and do put it on website. This is not zabardasti. PLease do a favour may u live long.<br>
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| Enjoy Life [[user:thegreateditor|Ustaad Singh]] 31st July 2007, 10:31 PM, [[Mohali]], [[India]]
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| * 3. The name of the magazine is "Sikh Phulwari" - so that seems to be the right name to give to the article - don't you agree?
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| I hope you agree with me on these points. das, [[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 12:35, 18 August 2007 (EDT)
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| ::I am glad we have sorted this one out quickly - I have created a new Category under "Magazines". I hope that will help us categorise these articles more efficiently. Many thanks, [[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 16:09, 18 August 2007 (EDT)
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| Lucky wallon tuhadey murhey ardaas hai kae Mere Grandmom is suffering from cancer of Liver n Colon(intestine). No treatment is there for the dreadful disease as her age is 80+1 or 2. I want the users please benyty hai
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| '''Ik ardas rabb aggae kar dena, Kae mere Dadi ji nu ghato ghat 5 saal di hor sakoon bhari life den. Please shayad oh ik pal tusee guru nu jud ardaas karo kisi de life sudhar sakdee hai tae Kisey dee zindagee ch khushi aa sakdee hai'''. '''Ik Ardaas Insaniyat(Humanity) wajon kar dena. Oh pain naal bohot buri taran kalpdey hann, wekhya nahin jaunda. Weak ho gaye hann. But apan ohna nu nahin dasya kae ohna nu cancer hai taanki oh positive minded rehan. PLease help her by pray before god. Kisi da ik pal kisi nu jind dae sakda tae kisey nu khushi de sakda please.'''
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| Rabb tuhada bhala karey, sarbat da bhala karey. Waheguru jee ka khalsa Whaguru je ke fateh. <br>[[user:hpt_lucky|Lucky]]
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| Rabb tuadean '''SHUBH MANOKAMNA''' Purian karey. .....LUCKY
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| "wrong information on Wikipedia.... 'Magnetic Hill India'...10th Nanak meditated their in 17 cen.....fact...Guru Nanak meditated...a month ago,.... Now i ve been blocked....Pl."
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| '''''Khalik khalak,...'''''.''Thou(no attributes) are HUMANITY(with human attributes)'''''
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| * [[Khalsa]]ji I share your concern, why should they block you ?.
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| * They ( even our own Sikh Web sites ) regulate the inputs from '''''Khalk''''' (Humanity / Guru roop / TRUTH god)as per their whims, fencies, profits & ugendas. Will be with you --{{User: Mutia|--Mutia 13:49, 25 August 2007 (EDT)]]
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| :: I have looked at the page on Wikipedia {{wiki|Magnetic Hill (India)}} and I agree that the information there is incorrect - unfortunately, the setup at Wikipedia is driven by the majority who are non-Sikhs - so it is impossible to get the correct information on the Sikhi articles easily at that site.
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| ::I would not worry about that site too much as it is well known that many Sikhi aspect have been wrongly represented. Let us work on SikhiWiki and make it the number 1 site for Sikhi information. Then Wikipedia will refer users to our site! Kind regards. das, [[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 17:14, 25 August 2007 (EDT)
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| | I am very grateful for your continuous help at Sikhwiki and it is my wish that together we are making a few more people in this vast world learn about the beautiful message of the Gurus. Warm regards and best wishes, [[user:hari singh|Hari Singh]]<sup>[[User talk:Hari singh|talk]]</sup> 20:38, 28 June 2011 (EDT) |
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| Sarabjeet je, I have supplemented your note. Could you share with us the source of your info. Before Wikipedia, It calls for HINDU being asked to clarify the anamoly.
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| | Many thanks for your kind words. It was great to chat on the telephone. Many thanks for trying to contact Bhai sahib. I have now made contact with Lucky ji and hopefully we may be able to meet in the next day or so. |
| Hello Mr. Sarabjit jee yar kuj photos wee pa davo gurudware diyaan main tatpar haan wekhan layee. [[user:paapi]]
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| :I think the list at [[List_Of_Gurdwaras_In_India#Jammu_.26_Kashmir|Gurdwaras_In_India - Jammu & Kashmir]] and the category list produced by [[:Category:Gurudwara In Jammu & Kashmir|Gurudwara In Jammu & Kashmir]] are both useful because the first one lists all the Gurdwaras even if no article exists for that Gurdwara while the other one only gives a list of '''existing gurdwaras''' in J&K. They cannot be said to be absolute duplicates but I agree that there is some repetition in the lists. I believe that [[User:Thegreateditor]] has done a lot of work on the Gurdwara lists - perhaps you can ask him to have a look at this problem. Also, I am not familiar with the Gurdwara in J&K. You may find that he has better knowledge of Gurdwara in India. das, [[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 22:26, 9 September 2007 (EDT)
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| * I will be back to you --[[User:Mutia|--Mutia 21:17, 10 September 2007 (EDT)]]
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"Sarbjeet ji, For a person who has shown dedication and commitment to SikhiWiki please accept this - The SikhiWiki man with a Heart barnstar. Many thanks for your continued dedication and hard work. Also your love and affection for other SikhiWiki users. You are a true Sikh of the Guru. It is an honour to have you on the team here. Keep up the great work!
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Bhai sahib ji, Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh
The backup is done. It was a very long list of messages. Please free to ask me again if you need this processed repeated or perhaps you want to try it yourself next time. Please feel free to ask either way. Kind regards, Hari Singhtalk 13:31, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Good night
Veerji, saw you were on, just wanted to say hello. 4am here . Rab Rakha
NISHAAN SAHIB
Bhai Sahib ji, Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh
Should we bow down before NISHAAN SAHIB? The short answer is no. The Sikh only bows to the shabad Guru, the essence of Waheguru and nothing else. However we respect everyone and live in humility and humbleness and if one shows respect to the Nishan as it reminds them of the Guru and hence Guru Shabad then who are we to discourage this.
Some people pay respects to material things belonging to the Guru as it connects them to the Guru and so to the Shabad Guru - the word or command of the Guru. The important thing is the shabad - the meaning in the words of Gurbani. We show deep respect and follow the words of the Guru - That is what we promise to do when we bow to the Guru. "Waheguru, I accept your words and your hukam". However, if we do not follow the shabad then the bowing is in vain; it is wasted. So as long as you learn and dwell on the words of the Guru then bow to whatever connects you to this word; that is the real meaning of bowing in Sikhi - bowing and accepting the shabad.
Waheguru, mahar karan, may we learn and absorb the real meaning of Gurbani and follow Gurmat. Kind regards, Hari Singhtalk 23:50, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
Veer ji,
Many thanks to you and S Mandeep Singh ji. I am only the delivery-man; the message I hope is as sent by the Guru through Gurbani. Please continue to spread the beautiful message of the tall, tall Guru who dwarfs us all; but with such an able leader, I don't think we can go wrong provide we continue to practise Gurmat as did the Sikhs like Baba Deep Singh, etc. May he give us the strength and vision to stay on his path.
I am most grateful for the reminder; I will update the active user list in 2 or 3 days. Veer ji, Many thanks for your kind words; everyone in the family is very well by the grace of Guru Nanak; may his nadar prevail at all times. I hope the same applies to all your family. Keep in chardikala. Raab Rakha. Hari Singhtalk 03:19, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
long time no see
Sarbjeet ji, hope all is well in Jammu, have not seen or rather heard from you here in a long time. Hope all the family is well.
Rab Rakhaa Allenwalla 04:41, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Need to bring to the attention of parents of young Sikh brides in India
Dear Sarbjeet Singh ji, Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh
I have come across a particular problem with Sikh boys marrying NRI girls and then divorcing them before the 2 years so that the girl has to leave UK and go back to her country of origin; they keep the dowry and all the items belonging to the girl. I want to investigate the viability of creating a database of these perpetrators so that this trend can be stemmed. I wonder if a database can be setup using Orkut or such platform to help bring these perpetrators to the attention of parents of girls in India and other NRI countries so that they can be better informed about these types of people. This trend is leading to a lot of misery for our young girls.
I have come across a Sikh boy in the UK who has been married twice and is divorcing for the second time and has already lined up a new bride in India. I have been involved in trying to assist the second girl but the boy and his family are not interested in negotiation or any compromise. Can you help in setting up this database?
The database should hold the pictures of the boy and/or his family - say up to 5 images in jpeg or other format; fields for his first name, surname and location details consisting of Town, County/District and Country; age and summary text field of 1000-5000 characters. Any help in setting up this would be most welcomed. Many thanks, Hari Singhtalk 23:02, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
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How are you? Do you have more pics of gurjrat guruduaras? (Lucky 08:16, 20 July 2010 (UTC))
Database creation
Veer ji, Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh
Many thanks for your kind response; hope you had an excellent trip and that all are keeping in chardikala. Please let us have a glimpse of some of the Gurdwara picture and historical significance of some of these Gurdwaras when you get some free time.
Also, please let me know if you think it will be feasible to create a database or a controlled forum as mentioned in my previous message so that some of these marital and domestic problems can be highlighted and discussed; it would help a lot of people who are left in a very difficult situation.
Thanks for asking, with Guru's bakshish everything is keeping well here in the UK. Raab Rakha, Hari Singhtalk 11:31, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
NRI luutaray!
Veer ji, Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh
I am sorry I did not reply earlier; I had seen your reply and the long quote and wanted to read this in full before replying - Sorry Veer ji for not dealing with this immediately.
This initiative by S. Balwant Singh Ramoowalia seems very good but I have a feeling this will take a long time - What I have in mind was a site like Wikileaks - which is a database of wrongs hidden away by governments and large organisation - we need to setup a NRI abusers database so that all the girls who have had a bad experience can submit the picture and details of the abuser.
What do you think? Do you think this will work? Guru fateh, Hari Singhtalk 19:18, 30 July 2010 (EDT)
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Thanks, I had noticed that you had taken care of the edit (ullu) just after I had noticed the word. Thanks for taking the time yo improve the page.
Raab Rakha, Allenwalla 08:27, 22 March 2011 (EDT)
Duplicate article
Veer ji,
Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh
Just noticed the article Narender Singh Kapany that you created - Veer ji, this may be a duplication of Dr. Narinder Singh Kapany? It may be worth merging the two into one article. Many thanks and warm regards, Hari Singhtalk 19:27, 19 June 2011 (EDT)
Veer ji, Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh
Many thanks for the reply and for your kindness in asking about the family. With Guru's kind kirpa all is well and it is our ardas that Waheguru will continue to bless us with his nadar. I hope, veer ji that you and your family too are keeping in good health and in chardikala; also that the trip to Himachal went well.
I am very grateful for your continuous help at Sikhwiki and it is my wish that together we are making a few more people in this vast world learn about the beautiful message of the Gurus. Warm regards and best wishes, Hari Singhtalk 20:38, 28 June 2011 (EDT)
Contact meeting in India
Veer ji
Many thanks for your kind words. It was great to chat on the telephone. Many thanks for trying to contact Bhai sahib. I have now made contact with Lucky ji and hopefully we may be able to meet in the next day or so.
I am sorry I did not let you know of my plans earlier. I will remember in future to contact you before so that we can have a contact meeting in Punjab.
Kind regards, Hari Singhtalk 12:24, 22 November 2011 (CST)
Request to publish an article from sikhiwiki on Wikipedia
I have created an article on wikipedia about Gurdwara Nangali Sahib (Poonch) and i want the permission to borrow the content from sikhiwiki.
Karantalk 10:58, 10 April 2017 (CST)
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