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Dear Amita Singh Ji, WKWF

It's nice to see your name on the recent changes list. I hope you have succeeded in getting a job! I hope things are keeping well. My Fateh to all your family and friends.

I have made some small changes to the above article regarding the srigranth template so that it finds the actual line of the Shabad and minor additions to the tuk displayed – I hope this is Ok with you. If not, I will put it back to the original.

My spell-check changed the spelling to the one shown above - Should it be spelt as above or as it appears at the article? Please let me know and we can rename the article.

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh

khalsa ji where u r in the progress of changing the world with the help of gurmani and how r u

vishawjit singh


I have archived the older postings from this page to a separate page – I hope this will be OK?

Is it possible to get translation of Bhai Gurdas Ji into English of all of the Vaaras?

Kind regards and keep up the good work. --Hari Singh 11:27, 3 August 2006 (CDT)

How are Things?

Hi Amita Singh

How are things? Haven't seen you here as much - I hope all is well and you have found a good job after all those studies!! --Hari Singh 09:02, 22 August 2006 (CDT)

Hi Amita, WKWF, Many thanks for your lovely message - it was indeed a pleasure talking and I hope you did not consider it a burden. Please pass me hearty greetings to both you parents, my dear brother and bhabiji, who I may have spoken to before we exchanged our words. No, coming to London is no dream but something that will happen very soon. I will pass your hello onto both the our kids. Please don't worry too much about your absence from Sikhiwiki, but it nice to see your entries there now and then – So if get free time, please just keep an eye on things. As I said before, we have a reasonable base and we only need to improve on what we already have – but please don't forget it completely!! Please look after yourself and I await your details on postage either by email or a post here on Sikhiwiki. --Hari Singh 13:07, 25 August 2006 (CDT)

Translation of Punjabi Hukamnanas

Respected Amita Singh Ji, Guru di fateh,

I hope everyone is keeping well.

I was wondering if it was possible to get a English translation of the Hukamnans of the Akal Takhat. I have found this PDF file at:

This is in Punjabi and as my speed of Punjabi is about 9wpm, it will take me forever. I wonder if it is possible to translate the contents page and create a list of all Hukamnamas issued by Akal Takhat.

Your help would be most appreciated, many thanks, --Hari Singh 09:43, 28 September 2006 (CDT)

Hukamnama

Dear Amita ji,

The Darpan link has been added to the Hukamnama - I hope this now meets with your approval. Many thanks for the recommendation. --Hari Singh 19:53, 11 October 2006 (CDT)

Development of Sikhiwiki

Further to your suggestion, I have listed points for the development of Sikhiwiki here. Please have a look and add your comments on my user page or under the SikhiWiki article talk page. It's good to have positive pending items - It is a constant motivation to do something when time is available! - you can never get bored, when things are pending. Many thanks for your continued help. --Hari Singh 22:07, 21 October 2006 (CDT)

Setup Learning system for Anand Sahib

You asked: <<< should it be Japuji to begin with? What is the outline of the plan ? and related Hows?!>>> We have a simple Listen, Look and Learn systen for Japji Sahib here. Have a look and see if this would be helpful to have one for Anand Sahib as well? --Hari Singh 21:06, 23 October 2006 (CDT)

Template:HappyGurpurab

Sorry, but I had to change back this template as your changes made the 2 columns on the main page uneven; also some other changes in colours were to be made today to highlight the contents.

I have created a link to a new page Sayth Nanak which contains your text. I suggest that more short quotes from Gurbani are added to this page showing the important messages of Guru Nanak for the world. --Hari Singh 19:55, 4 November 2006 (MST)

Sir pappi de wee sun lavo

What is Mutia?? Is it your Sir name? Paap Punn doy ek saman... Gur Gopy jo Aapna.............How can a sin and punn are ek samaan well can you tell me lines after these and before these actually i am not able to understand these. user:paapi Very Paapi

ok i can understand

Paap Punn doe ek samaan..........

Manukh paap wee kardaa hai, punn kardaa hai - Fir galat karam kanda ch pea rehnda like chori, rishwat, 5 evils, etc. etc. (i will not display the list) FOr that person - Paap punn dohe ek saamaan 

koor kriya urjheo jag mein
sri bhagwaan ka bhed naa paeoo

Well tell me are you rigid toward sikhism i mean are you a rigid sikh.....sikhism support rigidity??????

paapi - The great Sinner


User Mutia

Its great to read about ==Health, Happiness & Holiness:Origin of==. You are right after reading i got that you deal with Khalsa and you are the true khalsa. I want to write on the cults like Sant Nirankari, Namdhari, Radhasoami.................In punjab radhasoamis are enjoying top leval.

Today lok sharaab, nashey nahin chadade t nave sects and cults janam lai lainde Sects & Cults.

What do you think of radhasoamis and how they are related with sikhism........

Tusee naam lita hoya aa koi???

Well you answers very late i dont know why

That's really fantastic answers

Its amazing, unbelievable, fantastic, lovely, great (etc...) answers you have given. I can call you a brahmgiani Khalsa Mutia(Sorry dont know your name). 

Inhi ke kirpa kae saje hum hain , nahin moh sae gareeb karor pare

Thanks for giving more zajbaa

From where you are who are you ?? i am not getting you i have read your user page......that i know you are khalsa but i want to know your DUNIYAAVI IDENTITY(send me the link)

q. Do let me know more about yourself, your skills & future plans ??

A. Well sorry to say i cant tell me about myself, (Khalsa Nu pehchanana Difficult hee nahin namunkin hai, Khalsa mere mann ch hai tan te nahin) 

Khalsa kisey ton darda nahin 
apnaa Zikar kisey aggae kardaa nahin
Kyon kae maan hai khalsa hon te mainu
Kisi hor noo kujh samjhda hee nahin

My skills = Khalsa Skills (that you all know)

Shareer nahin khalsae wargaa te kee hoya, man taan hai

Future Plans -

I want to show world what is khalsa, My co curricular activities(studiea) are going on. main activity is to walk on khalsa way and to make other walk.

Now tell me who are you

Lucky Wallon Sat Shri Akaal

as you specify the format above i am doing the same.

You are Giani, Dhiani, Weechari, Gurmukh, Khalsa man. i want to share a prob which i am facing rite know. Mera mann jayaada der tak sthir nahin rehndaa i mean zayaada der tak tikdaa nahin. Like in studies, or any other work. man duniyaa ch bohot bhatkdaa hai.

Jae man te kaabu pavaangaa taanhi khalsaa kehlaawaan gaa kyon kae man jeetae jag jeet

So tell me acc. to gurbani how to control yourself, Man chanchal hai is nu sthir kiven banawaan. user hpt_lucky

My yahoo id is [email protected] just add me by clicking on add and write "hpt_lucky" in it. Or gmail [email protected].

Enjoy Khalsa Life

Thanks

Thats is really great. Well khalsa oh hai jo pardaa nahin, apnanoonda e.

jay ko aakhai boluvigaarh - this time u r guru 4 me

Guru Mere Sang Sanda ahi nale is lai man jeete jag jeet. And this timee you are guru for me.

hoon main jayaada na likh kae kitaab fardaa and thanks for great great - (unlimited) and amolak suggestion. ok bye

We need to conform to the Wiki standard!

Amita ji, WKWF

I am sorry I had to revert the changes on the Summary of Sikhism page as the changes you made completely distracted the reader from the full picture that the article is trying to convey.

As more users are contributing to the site, we need to set down stricter ground rules on the type, size, colour and combination of fonts that we use. I will be much obliged if we can all adopt a more traditional style of presentation on the main subject matter. On articles for children or unusual articles some extra feature may be useful but I humbly ask that we set a standard for others to follow. We need to stick to the basis system of presentation - Please see guidelines at Wikipedia:Manual of Style relating to the type of styles relevant to an encyclopaedia such as SikhiWiki.

I appreciate that at times we need to add colour and boldness but due to the use of many different browsers, some of the large fonts are so big as to be unreadable. On some of your articles, I am not even able to read the text because it is all jambled over each other and completely over-crowded. Please keep the maximum fonts size restricted to the size of heading as in:

This is a heading

And use this size very sparingly. Also please use only a maximum of 3 different sizes of fonts on the whole page. Another thing that we need to be careful about is the fact that it is very difficult to read "Roman Punjabi" which refers to – Punjabi - English akara-ch lee-kani. This is fine for messages but can be very difficult for non-Punjabis to read and can become a hindrance when used in articles. Only use it when it is part of a Gurbani Tuk like:

  • ਜਿਸ ਦਾ ਦਿਤਾ ਸਭ੝ ਕਿਛ੝ ਲੈਣਾ ॥
    jis daa ditaa sabh kichh lainaa.
    Everything we receive is a gift from Him.

My only motivation in posting this message is to make SikhiWiki more acceptable to more users and I hope you will agree that what I have said will make the presentation more uniform and give SikhiWiki a more polished and "acceptable" image in the community – which hopefully, will invite more users to read the content. My comments are meant as a help and should be taken as frank and "fatherly" advise from one users to another. There is no bitterness in my thinking and I beg you to accept these words in that context. Please excuse my interference but I wish us all to continue to make maximum progress with this project. I hope my words make some sense but if they don't, I apologise and I will endeavour to be more meaningful in future. Please forgive my trespass. With Guru's kirpa may we all make even better and more useful contributions to the Guru's mission, which hopefully will reach many thousands of others who will gain from the experience. Raab Raakha, Hari Singh 16:29, 19 February 2007 (MST)

A line for you

Dithey Sabey Thaanv Nahin Tudh Jehaa

Salute to gurbani master wjkk wjkf keep in touch user:paapi

Answer from Sinner The paapi

Coming into contact with the sinful human body, the food becomes so impure that is is spat upon. Today everybuddy like that type of food, But who takes god name is prevented from my prakoop, But what about that guys

jinna dae ghar ch granth peendae shraaban nae,

gatre paye chakee khande dee dhaar baithey,

Ona nae kee paapi ton bachnaa doston

narkaan layee taan oh pehlan hee tayaar baithey

It is greedy, deceitful, sinful and hypocritical, and totally attached to Maya.

Well Maya da wee moh hai sareean nu maithon kiven koi bachoo

The Lord Himself is the Protector of His devotees; what can the sinner do to them?

Odey waastey rabb dae naam tae chalnaa zarooree hai, tae paapi ona noo chalan nahin davoo, tae jinna nu mera bhed samjh ch aa gaya, paapi kyaa paap is jag ton maroo.

One who does not obtain the Association of the True Guru, is a most unfortunate sinner; he is consumed by the Messenger of Death.

Well Granth sahib ch bohot kujh likhyaa mutiaa jee, But saarey mere wal aunday nae..........Koi granth sahib noo parna nahin chahundaa, Jera pardaa oh wichaarna nahin chahundaa, jera weechardaa oh weechaar kae bhul jaoonda.............paapi ethey wee jit prapat kar jaoondaa.....

user:paapiTime ( In control of me)

THIS is TRUTH (god's) doing...............User:Mutia 25 Feb 07


paaapi

Paapi dae sab darshan karna chandae nae,

Giani Maskeen nu bhul gaye, osama(bin laden) nu sab milna chahundae nae

O rabba Paap taan aagae hee mahabali hai Eh lok paapi noo hor mahabali banoona chahundae nae

user:paapi

Answer:->

Paap Punn dou ek smaan ......--SatGurBani

  • implies SatGurBani..... Pappi & Punni are ek Smaan.
    • Can't say as to who is not yerning to become a TRUTHfull Human being As Per The Commandments of SatGurBani (User: Mutia is)
    • In the domain of SatGurBani & as per the rigid Commandment of SatGurBani one has to become a Khalsa to be able to filter out TRUTH from Falsehood. Lowly Barking Mutia, as on now had not been able to graduate to even GurSikh. I sleep like a dog (at Least I am TRUE to my Profile )through the fourth quarter ( against the firm Commandment of SatGurBani....Uth fareeda kuttia.....
    • Sir, grant this lowest of the lowly dog, I even Bark at the TRUTHful Human beings. All TRUTH god's doings, he made me a barking Dog & not TRUE to 'TRUE Khady Batty da Amrit' (Amrit Vela). It is far off, 35 Steps to go.I need company How about holding each other's hand in the Tough climb of 38 steps Ordained by 'TRUTH god'.
    • All I have to offer you is nothing but SatGurBani. I own nothing.

Jy main hunda varia mitta aiada jeera jaly haith ty uppar angara....

    • Thanks for giving strength to the suppressed voice of TRUTHfullness against FALSEHOOD & TERRORISM (The only eternal mission of the order of alias TRUTH god.

WaKaFa! Down with FALSEHOOD & Gur Fateh !!!!!

PS: ik bhori darshan deejy.......!! User:Mutia 25 Feb 07

Paapi Here again

Insaan nu khatam nahin karnaa, Is paapi Deemag nu khatam karnaa hai

Eh hee zafarnama hai, jo mere wargey aurangjebaan nu heela sakdaa hai.

Paapi Insaan Nahin Us da mind hai, tae jis da mind paapi hai oh hee paapi hai

Mera Mind Paapi hai main paapi haan, Gurbaani nu samjh laina haan but paap mere te jeaada bhaaree nae

5en weekar mere te bhaari hai, te mere warga horan nu kee dao.......Weekaar

So bandea maithon bach, Main paapi haan Paapi, Granth Sahib parh jaa kae maithon bach, Main Kaljug haan, Main hee haan Rakshish, Main bakhshak haan, Main kaam krod lobh haan, moh hankaaran daa haan sagar, wae paapn naal bhareaa mera gagr.

Aao mere kol tunu is gagar dee sair karaawan, tuanu wee paapi banawaan.

Nahin taan Khatam Karo Mainu Mere wal Nigah Na maaro Satgurbani Paro Veerae Satgurbaani

Gian, sat, Nia, santok, dheeraj, himmat, namrata, sabar, Sheel Sanjam dee jai Khalsa Dee jai

Kam Krofh Lobh Moh Ahnkaar dee Jai, Paapi Dee Jai

user:paapi

Maan yog Papiji,

WaKaFa !

words fail me in positively appreciating your sentiments. Only language in which User: Mutia can express himself on it is SatGurBani. Every Thing else has failed.

  • Dilon Muhabbat jin sei Sachian.....
  • jin Man hor Mukh hor se kandy Kachian.....
  • Ratty ishk Khuda rang deedar dy.....
  • Visseria jin NAAM, se Bhuyn Bhar thiy....
  • Teri Panah Khuda too bakshandgi....
  • Shiekh Faridy Khair Deejy Bandgi....
  • ......Jina pashata Sach chuman payr mu.
  • jo toy mary mukkian, tina na mary ghumm.
  • aapnry ghar aeeyy payr tina de chumm.
  • SatGurBani I am sacrifice to you !...I am Sacrifice....!! I am....!!!!!!
  • I am no where here, it is nothing but.....
  • ......Naked TRUTH that WAS, HAD BEEN till now, IS here & now at this instant and WILL ever be beyond eternity.

WaKaFa!! User:Mutia 25 Feb 07

PS: Consider E mailing me at.... ....[email protected]....

...if TRUTH god alias Paapiji considers me a TRUTHful dog of HUMANITY alias TRUTH god

fir mandae ho na

paapi nae ik waar controversial article likhney kee shuru kjittey hoon recent changes wich ohee nazar aa rahey han bluestar, woodrose.

paapi nu jinna marzee kaho kuj taanvee paap mahabali hai

Where is gurbani sir..........user:paapi

.......ik waar controversial articlelikhney........

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User:Mutia 27 Feb 07

Hey User Mutia

What do you do in sansarik life.???? Gurmat dae elawa kee kardey ho. i think wehle hee rehndae ho mere waang well main taan tothon jeaada wehlaa.

But eh gal wadiyaa bai tuade articles ch gurbaani nazar aaundee chalo eho jehe jantaa honee chahedee taanhee udhar hou dharam tae is desh da.user:paapi

ssa user mutia

I want to know how to control kaam.........frankly telll me

thinking is very wrong abt gal and i dont like it i want to control but i dont know wat happen like paap no jinna marzee daboo taanvee paap mahabalee e. as i am a regular masturbator, it affects me physicalyy to as you looks like a gurmukh man u will understand ma poblem first as gurbani says WEECHAR so pls suggest me.plsplsplspls. Ik singh doojae singh dae kam aaoo aj eh singh paapi e eda paap ik singh hee mitaoo user:paapi

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh khalsa ji chardikala c ho

vishawjit singh Brar

SatGurMat Solutions

Nothing really wrong with masturbation per se & stop worrying about your habit which in a way appears to be prevailing all over among young boys who need to get married , However your obsession will keep you away from becoming a Karta Purukh, ( First Thing SatGurBani expects a human being to be, before one is accepted as a candidate for becoming a Khalsa after climbing 38 Steps )

Thank SatGurBani that you being from a GurSikh Family can help yourself (sab kush apy aap --Sayth Nanak ) rather than helping one of the joints & their keepers with what you do not seem to be having (money) & getting in real trouble. Do not even think of helping them.

1. Get Married earliest ( if you are a Karta Purukkh( If you are gainfully employed & creative enough to plan as to how you will feed your children ) & can earn enough for yourself & your 'would be'.

2. Look for employment so that you can get married earliest Once you become a Karta Purukh follow step 1 above

3. Have faith in nothing but SatGurBani. Do 'No Seva' But 'SatGurBani Seva' referred to as 'SatGur Ki Seva' in SatGurBani all over as under:-

    • Learn SatGurBani as a Language
    • Listen to it (Shabads) through the day.
    • Read it.
    • Write it.
    • Understand it (Gur Shabad Veechar)
    • Speak it with your near & dear ones & any one who may care.
    • Learn its grammar from some one who know . I am sure your father will know it well
  • What I told you above is Written in SatGurBani itself. All I have done is translated SatGurBani in English. Unfortunately SikhiWiki Managers seem to be having their own part of the problems They seem to be struggling to help us with better expressions in SatGurBani , Punjabi, Hindi & other Indian Languages. Let us all wish them SatGurBani Fateh  !!
  • What is your level of achievement on the Path of 38 Steps to TRUTH god ??. You for sure have climbed Three steps & seem to be struggling to relish Amrit Vela(4th step, Khady Baty da Amrit) . You are my Type, I am struggling real Hard to become TRUTHfull to 4th Step of Japuji.

4. On the strength of SatGurBani I dare say that you will be crossing 4th step in 30 days. Stay in touch. Let us have a competition. Sun rises in India now a days at 6:30 AM . Amrit vela starts at 3:30.

5. Being True to Khalsa Culture, you & me must stay awake through Pahar Savaya & ponder over wisdom( only and only gift a Sikh can extend to SatGurbani. All other offerings like money etc are false 

( ....fir kee??? aggy rakheey jit desy darbar. Muh kee??? bolan boliy jit sun dhary piyaar .....).

6. That makes the get up time for a Sikh in INDIA as 3:15 through winters & 3:45 in summers. Sun Rise time is universally known. so if one want to be explicitly truthful to SatGurBani The get up time can be precisely arrived at by subtracting 3.25 Hrs from Sun rise Time.

7. Sounds too early but not any one who knows what stuff Khalsa is Made of .( I am sure Sikhs the world over, who dare call themselves Sikhs, are listening.

8. Let them or Let them not, it is OK! as long as you & me are listening to TRUTH god's commandments explicitly documented in SatGurBani.

With you always !! WaKaFa !

User:Mutia 15 mar 07 PS: How about being on Email line my email is in my profile. Consider thinking over it.

thanks for soluions

but tusee weaah tak ponch gaye main 16 years old paapi hale pata nahin kiinnae paap karey tusee wiah de suggestion de mareee well neglecting that i am trying to understand other things.

you waana say that i have wrong grammer ok u r rite but man u told me to speak in punjabi. u are also a english editor

guru gurmukhi khojdae reh gaye aapan angreji pichey pai gaye

wichon adhe angreji akhar mainu samjh nahin aaye ongae is ton saral taan gurbani aa, but wechaar doongae nae. mere paper nae main tuanoo fir kadi masage karda naale ina time nahin e mere kol cyber cafe wale nae paise wee kat laine user:paapi 

khalsa ji

which level of sikhism are u now i think that u gain a lot and motivate many peoples with the help of gurbani. chardikala (vishawjit singh)

 
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