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=== Confusion ===
=== Confusion ===
Allenwala sirji gur Kalsa gur f3yh!
Allenwala Sirji gur ''Kalsa gur f3yh!''.


Sir,
Sir gurbani is a language & my mother tounge. I have taken no amrit from no one & never ever will exept from my own pnj piaras when I become inrutive & habitual amrit vyla dharee. There after i will beg the amrit from my panj piaaras.I will be able to identify  my p.j piaras only if i have good enough skill in gurbani(language of TRUE ideas). We TRUE Sikhs believe in NOT Guru (like Guru Nank) but in his ideas written in Lord TRUTH's Language .I will gauge as my piaras against the Sikhi standard of '''''jy many 3a mnneyy buJeyy gur prsa2i...'''''.
Panth da eyh kookr is dedicated to nank's resolve of speaking the language of the lowly lots. poor ones living in rotting streets of india, who are yerning to learn english have to be taught english in their phonetic & cultural way. '''neecha andar neech jaat neeche hu ati neech, nanak tin ky sang sath vadian sio kia rees.....'''. In the eyes of the poor neech, scholars who write flawless language are ''vaddy log''. Should we not make the neech comfortable rather than handle Khalsa media resourse for the benifit of the few scholarly class comfortable . This was the cause of all the '''muck looking TRUE sentiments''' i had been expressing on this platform of Sikhi for the last may be seven years or so.


Nank's sentiments which i also share from all the depths of my heart only comfort me. otherwise for kood raja kood praja nanak is a mad man singing in streets & challanging the neech to stand up & fight complaining to Lord TRUTH(Neech, poor needy & exploited). frustated he feels when  ''''ikk na chally naal....ikk na chally naal.....ikk na chally naal....... gavy kpoi 3an ....gavy koi tan.....he did find mardana (TRUE Superman) followed by angad(an organ of Nanak's own body) and it took 10 nanaks to find five TRUTHful beings  
Matter written in a language can be translated into another language but the language itself(1430 pages call it Never changing Lord TRUTH's grammer of his own language which has no attributes. Shortest possible size of Gurbani Language is '1').Spirit of No Shabad is different from another. Gurbani can not be translated. it can only be understood
 
'''''Gur Shabad vecar....''''' & not katha, as is advocated by vaddy log, is the only TRUE Platform of True [[Sikhi.]] dedicated to nothing but True Sikh Issues
 
Guru Granth is not Gurbani, it is the never changing Grammer of Satgurbani written on the hearts of all living Nanks  remains what it is. Gurbani can not be learnt through scholarly translations. only way of learning nanaks language is '''''gaviyy suniyy mn raKiyy Bau...'''''.   
 
* Lord TRUTH Nank fearlessly speaks the unspoken TRUTHs through his own Mr TRUTHs as ordained by the language of [[TRUE Ideas]].
 
* '''''Hukm na kahia jaee, nank hukmyy jy buJyy ta haumyy khy na koe'''''...., still let me make an effort..
 
* '''''kyyh nank eyh Kyl kTin hyy'''''....this game of love is hard to play & i learnt this TRUTH the hard way but i did  & '''''nank vigsyy byprvah'''''even if '''''ikk na clly naal'''' then ....Nank could not care less.
 
*'''''neecha andar neech jaat neeche hu ati neech, nanak tin ky sang sath vadian sio kia rees.....''''' & that is why ....'''''nank vigsyy byprvah'''''.
 
''p.n# 2a eyh kUkr is dedicated to Nank's resolve of speaking the language of the lowly lots. Poor ones living in rotting streets of india, who are yerning to learn english, have to be taught english in their phonetic & cultural way. In the eyes of these poor neech, scholars who write flawless language are ''vaddy log''. Should we not make the neech comfortable rather than handle Khalsa media resourses for the benifit of the few scholarly class to make THEM comfortable . This was the cause of all the '''muck looking TRUE sentiments''' i had been expressing on this platform of [[Sikhi.]](not Wiki) for the last, may be seven years or so, right from the time when probably (Sikhi)Wiki was in the initial infant stage & so was i.
 
Nank's sentiments which i also share from all the depths of my heart only comfort me. otherwise for '''''kood raja kood praja....''''', nanak is a mad man singing in streets & challanging the neech to stand up & fight. He is complaining direct to Lord TRUTH(Neech, poor, needy & uneducated & hence exploited) against the deeds of the high & mighty......with no mediator(scholars)  what so ever. He does again feel not very comfortable and sings '''''kisnu khiey nanka sb ku$ aapy aap''''''''''.....hukme u33m neech'''''....Lord TRUTH hirself is exploiter & SHe hirself is being exploited. hence '''''nank vigsyy byprvah..''    them Frustated he feels when  ''''ikk na chally naal....ikk na chally naal.....ikk na chally naal........ He challanges  gavy kpoi 3an? ....gavy koi tan..?...he did find mardana (TRUE Superman) followed by Angad(an organ of Nanak's own body) and it took 10 Nanaks to find five TRUTHful beings. So is this one of the Mutia of Mutia group (the dogs) who write the way dogs do supplemented by nothing but barks in support of no one bu their One Master. 


I dare Say. Sikhi alias Sikhiwiki is the only web site true to the peak of Sikhi i.e 38th step of Sikhi which  ordains all True Sikhs to write their views ferlessly & Truthfully. Let the Khalsa Panth  be assured that this nacheese panth ka kookar will keep barking from sach khand once i meet Nanaks in person.
I dare Say. Sikhi alias Sikhiwiki is the only web site true to the peak of Sikhi i.e 38th step of Sikhi which  ordains all True Sikhs to write their views ferlessly & Truthfully. Let the Khalsa Panth  be assured that this nacheese panth ka kookar will keep barking from sach khand once i meet Nanaks in person.
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WILL improve my skill.
WILL improve my skill.
gur Kalsa gur ftyh!!
gur Kalsa gur ftyh!!
 
--[[User:One|One]] 04:03, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
NB: i am sure Panth Kalsa will permit me to work on this peice of '''''jyyse myy avyy Kasm ke baxe....'''''.Gurbaxe & not Punjabi is the mother tounge of a True Sikh. I have no knoledge of english, lit etce. I am just an engineer & after having retired from service, amm trying to learn better english so that i call appreciate the sentiments of the Scholars & those who may be better than me. Sikhiwiki does not have a spell ckecker. neither do i recommend it to have. writing whatever comes & then correcting it for sure isa better way of telling Lord TRUT that his Mr TRUTH(Khalsa) saw. had been , is & will ever remain a Mr TRUTh(Khalsa)     
NB: i am sure Panth Kalsa will permit me to work on this peice of '''''jyyse myy avyy Kasm ke baxe....'''''.Gurbaxe & not Punjabi is the mother tounge of a True Sikh. I have no knoledge of english, lit etce. I am just an engineer & after having retired from service, amm trying to learn better english so that i call appreciate the sentiments of the Scholars & those who may be better than me. Sikhiwiki does not have a spell ckecker. neither do i recommend it to have. writing whatever comes & then correcting it for sure isa better way of telling Lord TRUT that his Mr TRUTH(Khalsa) saw. had been , is & will ever remain a Mr TRUTh(Khalsa)     


my panj piaras are   
my panj piaras as on date are....
   
* Sahib Singh alias Kha Anil Singh  
* Sahib Singh alias Kha Anil Singh  
* Mohkam singh alias Kha Ashokan singh
* Mohkam singh alias Kha Ashokan singh
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* Dharam Singh alias Kha Aulak Singh
* Dharam Singh alias Kha Aulak Singh
* Daya Singh alias Kha Pritpal Singh
* Daya Singh alias Kha Pritpal Singh
i am waiting for further orders & guidance from them to improve upon my linguistic expressions in this very text
 
i am waiting for further orders & guidance from them to improve upon my linguistic expressions in this very text.

Revision as of 22:03, 6 September 2008

Through a Sikh.'s perspective

Sikhs & their mother tounge ( Language of True Ideas) agree with nothing but TRUTHs & so does Science. Nothing but TRUTHs are the organs of one TRUTH called Satgurbani

Scientists are just now discovering the concepts that were foreseen & truthfully documented as the language of TRUE Ideas. Science is propelled by ideas so is a Sikh & his Sikhi written in Sikh scriptures centuries ago.

Pondering over..........????........ it & looking for words to share with u all tomorrow

---User: One alias Kha Col Rajender Singh Sikh. 6 Sep 08 Delhi

Confusion

Allenwala Sirji gur Kalsa gur f3yh!.

Sir gurbani is a language & my mother tounge. I have taken no amrit from no one & never ever will exept from my own pnj piaras when I become inrutive & habitual amrit vyla dharee. There after i will beg the amrit from my panj piaaras.I will be able to identify my p.j piaras only if i have good enough skill in gurbani(language of TRUE ideas). We TRUE Sikhs believe in NOT Guru (like Guru Nank) but in his ideas written in Lord TRUTH's Language .I will gauge as my piaras against the Sikhi standard of jy many 3a mnneyy buJeyy gur prsa2i....

Matter written in a language can be translated into another language but the language itself(1430 pages call it Never changing Lord TRUTH's grammer of his own language which has no attributes. Shortest possible size of Gurbani Language is '1').Spirit of No Shabad is different from another. Gurbani can not be translated. it can only be understood

Gur Shabad vecar.... & not katha, as is advocated by vaddy log, is the only TRUE Platform of True Sikhi. dedicated to nothing but True Sikh Issues

Guru Granth is not Gurbani, it is the never changing Grammer of Satgurbani written on the hearts of all living Nanks remains what it is. Gurbani can not be learnt through scholarly translations. only way of learning nanaks language is gaviyy suniyy mn raKiyy Bau....

  • Lord TRUTH Nank fearlessly speaks the unspoken TRUTHs through his own Mr TRUTHs as ordained by the language of TRUE Ideas.
  • Hukm na kahia jaee, nank hukmyy jy buJyy ta haumyy khy na koe...., still let me make an effort..
  • kyyh nank eyh Kyl kTin hyy....this game of love is hard to play & i learnt this TRUTH the hard way but i did & nank vigsyy byprvaheven if ikk na clly naal' then ....Nank could not care less.
  • neecha andar neech jaat neeche hu ati neech, nanak tin ky sang sath vadian sio kia rees..... & that is why ....nank vigsyy byprvah.

p.n# 2a eyh kUkr is dedicated to Nank's resolve of speaking the language of the lowly lots. Poor ones living in rotting streets of india, who are yerning to learn english, have to be taught english in their phonetic & cultural way. In the eyes of these poor neech, scholars who write flawless language are vaddy log. Should we not make the neech comfortable rather than handle Khalsa media resourses for the benifit of the few scholarly class to make THEM comfortable . This was the cause of all the muck looking TRUE sentiments i had been expressing on this platform of Sikhi.(not Wiki) for the last, may be seven years or so, right from the time when probably (Sikhi)Wiki was in the initial infant stage & so was i.

Nank's sentiments which i also share from all the depths of my heart only comfort me. otherwise for kood raja kood praja...., nanak is a mad man singing in streets & challanging the neech to stand up & fight. He is complaining direct to Lord TRUTH(Neech, poor, needy & uneducated & hence exploited) against the deeds of the high & mighty......with no mediator(scholars) what so ever. He does again feel not very comfortable and sings kisnu khiey nanka sb ku$ aapy aap'''''.....hukme u33m neech....Lord TRUTH hirself is exploiter & SHe hirself is being exploited. hence nank vigsyy byprvah.. them Frustated he feels when ''ikk na chally naal....ikk na chally naal.....ikk na chally naal........ He challanges gavy kpoi 3an? ....gavy koi tan..?...he did find mardana (TRUE Superman) followed by Angad(an organ of Nanak's own body) and it took 10 Nanaks to find five TRUTHful beings. So is this one of the Mutia of Mutia group (the dogs) who write the way dogs do supplemented by nothing but barks in support of no one bu their One Master.

I dare Say. Sikhi alias Sikhiwiki is the only web site true to the peak of Sikhi i.e 38th step of Sikhi which ordains all True Sikhs to write their views ferlessly & Truthfully. Let the Khalsa Panth be assured that this nacheese panth ka kookar will keep barking from sach khand once i meet Nanaks in person.

I have no words to thank u for the feed back i had been dying for since i got associated with Sikhi(not Wiki).Look forward to more of it from all TRUE Sikhs. Who believe in Gajj ky bolo & believe in nothing but

aaKxjor chupyy nhE jor(will here after use Nanak's quoats only in plain simple english)


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WILL improve my skill. gur Kalsa gur ftyh!! --One 04:03, 7 September 2008 (UTC) NB: i am sure Panth Kalsa will permit me to work on this peice of jyyse myy avyy Kasm ke baxe.....Gurbaxe & not Punjabi is the mother tounge of a True Sikh. I have no knoledge of english, lit etce. I am just an engineer & after having retired from service, amm trying to learn better english so that i call appreciate the sentiments of the Scholars & those who may be better than me. Sikhiwiki does not have a spell ckecker. neither do i recommend it to have. writing whatever comes & then correcting it for sure isa better way of telling Lord TRUT that his Mr TRUTH(Khalsa) saw. had been , is & will ever remain a Mr TRUTh(Khalsa)

my panj piaras as on date are....

  • Sahib Singh alias Kha Anil Singh
  • Mohkam singh alias Kha Ashokan singh
  • Himmat Singh alias Kha Lucky Singh
  • Dharam Singh alias Kha Aulak Singh
  • Daya Singh alias Kha Pritpal Singh

i am waiting for further orders & guidance from them to improve upon my linguistic expressions in this very text.