Talk:Mona Sikh
the last addition seems to be the sort of opinionated stuff that should be on the discussion page. Unless I am misunderstanding it, it seems to be stating that anyone who is not an Amrithari is a false person. Christian bigots often want to save the people of other religions because they think that without Jesus they are all going to hell. One branch even goes so far as to save one's ancestors retroactively. In the last paragraph whom is the Guru being referred to, the SGGS, the Khalsa Panth or the men who hold power in the Takhats, a particular Guru or WaheGuru? When did it become part of the Sikh religion to exclude? Are the earlier Gurus and the Sikhs that followed them and those who did not join in the Khalsa not Sikhs? Who are these false people who invented the term Sadjahari, Mona, ect.
The Brahmins invented a caste system; caste is a Portuguese word, which means pure. The Portuguese saw that there were distinctions between people that existed only in men’s minds. Each caste was pure, i.e. could not intermix and change jobs, ect. If some farmer decided he wanted to be a mochi he was expelled from his caste and not accepted by the other shoemakers.
Guru Nanak saw this as evil. Guru Gobind Singh, the great man that he was, saw that the men who were the pure Hindu caste whose job it was to protect Hinduism had become corrupt an was no longer protecting Hindus, but for their own selfish reasons some were working with the Mughals. They saw his innovations as a threat to their turf and privileges over which they enjoyed control.
He gave birth to the Khalsa giving men of every caste the chance to be a Khatri or warrior--to do the things and behaviors, wear turbans, train with weapons, ride horses, study languages, the Vedas and anything they pleased and to fight for everyones rights even the ones who might not believe in the things they did. Like the Hindu Lords of Myth he asked them not to trim their hair, was not Krishna known as Keshvara for his long flowing hair. Women were said to be equal by the Gurus, Mai Bhago took the Gurus at their word, though even today it is only the Sangats of America, the so called 'white' Sikhs, "harvested (their word not mine) by Yogi Bajan" who allow women to serve as the Panj Piares.
So today when someone argues for exclusion and says expel all who do not follow the 5Kakkars, they are not Sikhs, I get a little confused as this seems to go against all that Guru Nanak and the other Gurus had intended. (The Equality of all men/women) Many members of many religions argues they are the Pure Ones, doesn't Pakistan means the land of the pure (Paak)?
As an outsider who only has the smallest understanding of Sikhi I think that there is room for Sikhs who do not keep the 5 Ks, and also room for those who follow the chivalric order of the Khalsa. I hear arguments from some criticizing non Amritharis (sahajdhari), i.e. (Mona sardar is also a term as sahajdhari is and both should be kicked from the religion.), but I have heard of no sahajdharis who say get rid of, expell or end the Khalsa. No one would ever have such a thought. So why all the attacks, Kal--time and change are the only thing that seems guaranteed on earth?
I still haven't figured out how anyone can tell the young Sikh in the second photo is not an Amritdhari. Is the Patka not worn after being Baptised or is the fellow's beard to short? Please let me know. Allenwalla 19:34, 24 July 2008 (UTC) will remove tomorrow if no response.
