Talk:Gurmantar

Truth?

gavy koE 3ax jy hovy kisy vic jan!

• 1. This is Just for a bit of fun and for the heck of arriving at the Truth of God. In this IT era, taking advantage of the net hat-tricks, entire world has gone hyper, to competetively hype God by philosophising the simple & straight messages highlighted (& not hidden ) by all Nanaks who compiled a language called Satgurbani. ( more so for this,) Out of the entire humanity, Sikhs stand out as N0-1 to this 'True profile' of theirs. they always did, had been , are here now at this moment & will ever.

2. Subject matter written in a language can be translated, but Language itself can not be. In the above example i have not translated the Truth(not hidden but highlighted by i/Lord TRUTH accross 1430 pages ) but simply expressed the sentiments conveyed by Nanak in his Master peice work called ikk scc liKareeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee(2nd Nanak) 2a scca nau) alias 'Japuji Sahib' and 'not alias japu(Japu is the Path of the writer of Truths(Sikhs) & Text prior to.

It is a never ending relay race of handing over the True Name ('kr3a purKu' in nanak's words & 'Khalsa' in Kabir Sahib to 10th Nanaks' words, duly approved by all the contributors who contributed to formulation of the mother tounge language of Khalsa, called 'Language of TRUE IDEAs') since Nanak handed over his library (scee tksaal) of written work to 2nd Nanak. Since then team of Five Khalsa(Truthfull human beings) had been approving the self baptisation of incoming Sikhs as True Sikhs. In Khalsa way of things A human being has to earn his Sikhi by assuring the sadh sangat in an open fourm that SHe had climbed crossed four steps of Sikhi by religiously & rididly achieving the habit of being Truthful to Lord TRUTH's Order to daily sleep & rise early to become healthy wealthy & wise.

3. Spirit of entite 1430 pages running into 6000 plus Shbds is one Character '1'. How can one translate SatGurbani Language. Read any Shabad it means nothing but 'TRUTH'. Khalsa cultural protocol of Daily Hukmnama proves the point. No shabad is different from another.

4. To summ up Bani cannot repeat not be translated. Professor Sahib Singhji has not translated Bani in his Masterpeice work Darpan. He has gifted Truths to those who care. Darpan (said to be best Translation of Bani) is not a translation. It is reflection of Thy virtues which Lord TRUTH bestowed upon him. It is 'scce tksaal' which Sahib Singh je, True to Nanak's 38th order & aura of Sikhi handed over to us. What we Sikhs are handing over to the Panth, is not a debatable issue. Let us do better rather than philosophysing Bani. Biperans were, had been, are here at this instant do it much better let them do their job & let us Sikhs care for nothing but Bani. Let us Sikhs put in our every thing to Naam, Daan & isnaan.

Nanak's God ( if i do get forced to call 'Lord TRUTH' by hir Fake name. However as long as the message goes it suits me nay! my boss) is his Sikh peice of raw material for feeding to his factory called 'Sach Khand' & churn out final product called 'Khalsa'. Like only an existing account holder in a bank can identify a new incoming customer to Truthfull Human

True name of 1430 pages, & that of What we call Japuji Sahib, is 'ikk o.gkar s3inam'.

True name of what we call Guru Granth Sahib is 'SatiGurBani' in Short 'Satigur' in day today conversation & long writings simply 'Bani'

A Truth Crafter's True Name

in 1430 pages the subject matter is one character 1 (Truth)

This panth ka kookar has let us share minds.

The above sentence is translated version of Gurbani language written in Punjabi using gur2i33e (Gurditti) script. It is the spirit of 3rd step of Sikhi. Which expects a True Sikh to challange nonsense.

Q: Out of the following two statements Which one is True.

• 1. God's True name is Truth.

• 2. Truth's True Name is God or more appropriately worded -- Truth is Thy True name (&not God)

Participants may please cast their votes under following headings by writing their views

Only No 1 is True

Participant 1

2.

3

Only No 2 is True

1 2 3

None is True

1 2 3

Both are True

1

2

3

--One 01:13, 17 September 2008 (UTC)