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Hello, Sat Sri Akal, Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh, Namastae, Salaam, ਜੀ ਆਇਆਂ ਨੂੰ: SunnySinghDoad Ji! A very warm welcome and thanks for registering an account SikhiWiki. I hope you will bookmark this Sikhi site and keep visiting it on a regular basis. Also, you can help us enhance this site by checking, amending and adding to it and also by discussing issues on the discussion pages and telling others about this popular website. Please feel free to add or amend any of the topics that you have knowledge about. Don't worry about making mistakes as these can be easily corrected.


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Hope to see more on your article, sorry to jump the gun as i did not look to see the article was still in developement. Empire to me means a bunch of conquered colonies or nations and is a word i find alien to the aims of Guru Gobind Singh by appointing Banda Bahadur not as the next Guru but rather as the Jathedar or first to carry the fight to the oppressors doors.

Please leave a little about yourself on your user page. SSA Allenwalla 17:34, 10 March 2008 (MDT)

Thought i saw a message or question on my changing the word Empire

Sat Shri Akaal, Sunnybondsinghjalwehra ji, you are obviously a very industrious and exceptional eighth grader. My problem with the word empire is that the Romans, Japanese, British (John Company) , Dutch (VOC), Spanish and Portugese all had empires. They fought with each other to take over and conquer smaller less developed nations and countries using the people of their colonies often as slaves.

Whether moving large groups of Indians to Africa to build a railway, or using the Afim of India to addict a majority of Chinese in order to get back the silver the english were spending on tea, killing hundreds of thousands of people whom they thought they were superior to - just seems - well, wrong to me. Here in america we were also under the british thumbs — defeated Cornwallis who After the war Cornwallis who was appointed governor-general and commander in chief in India and is remembered for defeating Tippu Sultan.

The Japanese Empire sliced and diced its way through China killing people at will, so 'Empire' seemed the wrong word for what Guruji had intended when he made Banda Bahadur the Jathedar of the Sikhs. Kingdom is a much better word even though a Kingdom has a 'King'. Banda, a hero to my thinking, would, i can only imagine, not have liked being called a King or Raja. He was sent to clear the Punjab of the likes of Wazir Khan and Muslims of his Ilk. That is why i labeled the page - takes control of Punjab, routes the Mughals, destroyed their tax system, takes Command, etc. as Jathedar is similar to commander… … "Sic semper tyrannis"

Keep up the good work, Raab Rakah Allenwalla 17:37, 14 March 2008 (MDT)

Good morning Amrit vela here

SSA Sunnybondsingh, After some edits last nite at two in the AM i got to sleep. Its Amrit vela now totally dark. now 7:30am, and a loud thunder storm mitt donner und blitzen just came through when your communication reappeared on my screen.

I would probably use the word Liberator for Banda - just a personal choice. Just now all the birds are starting their morning salutations to the now rising sun which has not yet shown its face over the horizon, each bird a different instrument in God's orchestra. The hawk and its mate, the doves, the crows, the woodpeckers are starting their drumming on the trees and a distant neighbors rooster is acknowledging the morning Ru (Roo) as well. wondering if you Spreekt u Nederlands, شما ٝارسی حرٝ می زنید؟ like the Gurus, Kyaa ĝp Urdu boulta hai or Panjabi? Allenwalla 05:56, 15 March 2008 (MDT) a big tornado hit atlanta about 40 miles away last nite with a good bit of destruction.

Chittisinghpura Massacre

The article that i read says unidentified and casts doubt on the 18 year old's confession and pretty well blames the following shoot out where members of the susposed gang were killed on the Indian army or police. DNA tests may yet prove they were farmers and a shepard and a merchant who were forced from their homes and killed, to lay blame and solve the case. what i or anyone feels on who did this matters little as they are only my thoughts and feelings.

Hopefully the truth will win out and eventually be told. i don't who the killers were, can't tell from this story. Most people will blame, even without evidence who ever they trust least. The villager's remarks are what seem to matter.

Please read the whole story.Allenwalla 11:20, 16 March 2008 (MDT)

Thanks for your help

Hi Sunny Singh ji

For a 14 year old, you are doing an excellent job here at SikhiWiki. Many thanks and hope you will continue to spread the Guru's message through this site. If you find any interesting articles on Sikhism on Wikipedia, as that is a GNU licence or "copyleft" site as opposed to copyright, you are welcome to transfer the article to SikhiWiki. Kind regards, Hari Singh 14:47, 2 April 2008 (MDT)

Talk:Gurdwara Tham Sahib, Jamber

Sunny ji, i don't have your excellent source from which you are building your ever growing list. Could you add info on the men named as one links to a musical raga currently. You could write an article on each man, perhaps, i had asked how the latin was and if you spoke walloon , nederlander, or Punjabi -- no response. thanks richardAllenwalla 07:37, 3 April 2008 (MDT)please see Talk:Gurdwara Tham Sahib, Jamber. Keep up the good work Raab Rakah.

Sorry i missed the earlier answer

Sir ji, Your several languages leave me very envious. though i have never studied Nederlander, i can almost make out what you are saying. Our word prattle, to talk on endlessly with no aim or sense is obviously kin to praten (i assume to be- speak), which would also give us pray (talk to God) as in ardas.

Several tornadoes came very near, in a two hour period, our car, truck, my mothers car were all heavily dented (olah) several thousands of dollars. So some insurance, legalized gambling?, money returned. our next door neighbors car had $4,500 damage - a new altima - al (al lah-main god old Arabia/altitude/ Ti - heaven chinese /japanese (Tiananmen Square; square of Heavenly peace--not!/tiara) - ma (great - sanskrit) good name for a car or one's maa. Vahiguru's many words fascinate me.

Many houses were cleft in two by giant trees, I don't think any large city has been struck like this before.

Wondered about your source books? Was just looking at 1 of your articles, Shaheed Singhs - …but if one does not make that effort to lead the life of a Gursikh, Shaheed Singhs will never come to their help.

this means that they only help the good, specifically only Gursikhs?

i will need to finish reading the article. Kingdom is/was--was not a problem, empire (read of the Japanese Empire in the Andaman Island story on main page. The Japanese thought of themselves as the only 'pure' people, as did many of the Mughal rulers--both felt justified in killing anyone not of their sect) was what i questioned. In kingdom of course the required King would be Sat Guru. take care Allenwalla 13:11, 3 April 2008 (MDT)Also delighted to find that the Gurdwara with the skeletal archway/Pol was near Wagah- that info made the article live in my memory. i.e. linked to things i already knew.

caught a note in recent changes

where you wrote

sorry if u didnt like it.. but Madam doesnt mean wife or sweety... it just means MADAME or like a female for sir.. wife in french is FEMME (which also means woman) and sweety is CHèR(male)/CHèR.

never showed on my page

Madam, you are correct, means woman equiv to Sir (Madam i am Adam/malayalam) oh there goes those nasty pallindromes, madhuum simply sounds like madame (my dame)(maybe not as it's spoken in India, where a -v- is often written as a -w- and spoken as something like a -woi- / madam is usually an english word - mea culpa.----- ma - great/ dam-that wich restrains i.e. damodara- rope around the waist least he eat all the honey.


sorry if u didnt like it? what did i not like, ish ka bibel! i did miss the context glad to see you liked the headline. also glad to see you add the languages on your user page very impressive.

one thing you could answer for me- the word chakk (chak Nanaka) sometimes appears to be used in place of village

and chandini chawk or chowk , possibly a square? any thoughts on the word would be appreciated, Raab Rakah, richard ---

Thanks for the info on Chakk

Sunny ji , be sure to thank your dad as well. Your answers confirmed my suspicion - for, over the Abode of snow - in China- the Kanji for village looks pretty much like a tic-tac-toe grid with the square in the middle having the communal well or tanki for the eight surrounding farms-homes and fields. In grateful appreciation I added a little to your new page the Mari Butchian Encounter.

You may have to change the beginning or better yet, revert to your version.

I, inspite of the writing, completely ignored ( sometimes i'm more a-dolt than an adult… one gets afraid of alzheimers as he gets older)--the phrase - police and border security force's surrounded the house where Bhai Jugraj Singh Toofan was staying for the night and the encounter started… …Jugraj Singh started to use his AK 94) and imagined that the man was cleaning his rifle when he noticed the trick and the men then left to spare their hosts coming under fire. As i have probably rewritten the actual events please kindly revert to your version.

As the story, probably from your history sources, is written it might be taken either way. I would like to think that the Azadi fighters were clever enough to think--"wait a minute he/she (unstated in page) was awfully eager to go to town, maybe we should check our weapons and look outside for the wolves." Then valiantly leave to spare their hosts (voluntary or not, unsaid in story) certain death.

If I have messed the story up totally please revert-I added potential links when you get to the Shaheedi bios, which might solicit others joining your efforts by adding info/details you might not have.

I also, if the story supports it, like to relate stories to similar events in Sikh history, hence the added link to Guru Gobind Sing ji and the clapping and his yelling "PeerÚ Hind Rahaavat" as his companions left in several directions, in case some other young Sikh, less motivated to learn and teach history than you (whatever your reasons for undertaking such a task, one which usually only adults undertake -- whatever it is, you are teaching history), and particularly some non Sikh teenager or better yet older person who knows nothing of Khalistan and is ignorant of the issues, the desires -- sees Guru Gobind Singh in blue letters - clicks and starts down a new path which could enrich his/her life. thanks again, richard Allenwalla 09:40, 5 April 2008 (MDT)

Oops, as i was about to go and do a little farming or fencing, as the fifteen deer that share our acre and all the neighbors' are eating all the beans, peppers and tomatoes as they sprout, when i remembered i still had not answered your respondez s'il vous plait. I speak read and write English, lived in Italy trente ani fa per tre mesi - ha besognia de molta pratica, studied french 4 years -ai besoin de practice - my french is awful, Japanese, Chinese, Hindi, Urdu, Punjabi, Hebrew, Greek, Farsi and Sanskrit and latin in college i speak and read very little, but study them all as needed. My Monier Williams Sanskrit is full in every margin as are my Oxford Hindi, Urdu, Farsi and Punjabi, Latin and Hebrew dictionaries which I need to have rebound.

My first experience with an Indian language was on the grand canal in Venice when an Indian ran up to me. He had noticed my metal film canisters taped to my strap and liked the idea. He kept repeating fee lim, fee lim - took me a few seconds to understand that Indians see syllables where English see none. At the next corner a German couple ran up to me saying, Ver is das Boot--I listened carefully and took them to the gondoliere I had just passed who gratefully paid for my dinner that night when I encountered him again at my hotel near the restaurant. I always follow the locals to their cafes to get a good meal and don't stop in the tourist traps. A good Guru Ka Langar whenever possible, usually Yuba City or just above Berkeley, California, where i met ma femme, mera bebi, patni, hausfrau, etc. My Urdu and Hindi-speaking friends had much frivolity when I would say key--as jah bee and they would all turn to leave (fast) as i didn't know about 'chabee'. A Japanese friend went to Atlanta one day to pick up a friend coming from Japan who spoke very little English. They sat in a cafe and were served coffee. The fresh off the plane Japanese exclaimed, bitter! in Japanese. The African-American sitting next to him got up and knocked him out of his seat--i had to tell him why!. The answer to that is a story in my yet to be written book on language and its roots to Asia. Something i am still mulling over. I fortunately never made the mistake of taking a date out to a french cafe to impress her and doing the classic-- I would like a soup de jower. All to be in the book when i get it done.