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I am wondering why it is necessary to mention "Jat" or any caste at all when giving biographical details of a Khalsa. For a Amrit Shakt Khalsa - the Jatt was sacrificed, the previous life was sort of deleted and Amrit was given. And, Guru Sahib ji said it is "manmat" to mention/ask a Khalsa's previous Cast.
I am wondering why it is necessary to mention "Jat" or any caste at all when giving biographical details of a Khalsa. For a Amrit Shakt Khalsa - the Jatt was sacrificed, the previous life was sort of deleted and Amrit was given. And, Guru Sahib ji said it is "manmat" to mention/ask a Khalsa's previous Cast.
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Dear Khalsa ji,
Many thanks for a very valid and understandable question. However, the fact that the caste of a person is mentioned does not necessarily go against the philosophy of our Gurus just like mentioning whether a person is male or female does not portray gender discrimination. The person's gender or his or her caste are facts which cannot be changed. However, when we discriminate a person due to their gender or caste that is when we overstep the mark and move away from Sikh values. The "trade" or caste of the original Panj pyare is well rehearsed in history and these were published during the time of the 10th Guru. Similarly, the "caste" of [[Bhai Mardana]] is well documented since the time of [[Guru Nanak]]. No where has the Guru asked the history writers to erase Bhai Mardana's background; nor have the rest of the Guru's done the same.
With respect we should not discriminate if one is of a different caste or gender but have equal respect for all. That I believe is the message of Sikhi - Its not do "a cover up" of the facts but to openly accept our different castes, people of different gender, colour, etc.
Regards, [[user:hari singh|Hari Singh]]<sup>[[User talk:Hari singh|talk]]</sup> 13:11, 5 May 2015 (CDT)

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Respectfully Sikhwiki team,

I am wondering why it is necessary to mention "Jat" or any caste at all when giving biographical details of a Khalsa. For a Amrit Shakt Khalsa - the Jatt was sacrificed, the previous life was sort of deleted and Amrit was given. And, Guru Sahib ji said it is "manmat" to mention/ask a Khalsa's previous Cast.

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Dear Khalsa ji,

Many thanks for a very valid and understandable question. However, the fact that the caste of a person is mentioned does not necessarily go against the philosophy of our Gurus just like mentioning whether a person is male or female does not portray gender discrimination. The person's gender or his or her caste are facts which cannot be changed. However, when we discriminate a person due to their gender or caste that is when we overstep the mark and move away from Sikh values. The "trade" or caste of the original Panj pyare is well rehearsed in history and these were published during the time of the 10th Guru. Similarly, the "caste" of Bhai Mardana is well documented since the time of Guru Nanak. No where has the Guru asked the history writers to erase Bhai Mardana's background; nor have the rest of the Guru's done the same.

With respect we should not discriminate if one is of a different caste or gender but have equal respect for all. That I believe is the message of Sikhi - Its not do "a cover up" of the facts but to openly accept our different castes, people of different gender, colour, etc.

Regards, Hari Singhtalk 13:11, 5 May 2015 (CDT)