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SSA, Sardar Hari Singji, I don't know if you recall my asking if the chakars were ever used as a weapon, my research seems to point to their being the prototype for the frisbee of today and the surikins of japan and china. Sure the greeks had the discus but i find no refs to its being used as a weapon. And besides a similar throwing disk has long been in tales as a weapon of Vishnu. Thanks for the article hope my addition adds to your writing. Raab Raka upbhogi nao - Allenwalla 00:31, 29 January 2008 (MST) my word of today.