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Hello, Sat Sri Akal, Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh, Namastae, Salaam, ਜੀ ਆਇਆਂ ਨੂੰ: Koolkat Ji! A very warm welcome and thanks for registering an account SikhiWiki. I hope you will bookmark this Sikhi site and keep visiting it on a regular basis. Also, you can help us enhance this site by checking, amending and adding to it and also by discussing issues on the discussion pages and telling others about this popular website. Please feel free to add or amend any of the topics that you have knowledge about. Don't worry about making mistakes as these can be easily corrected.

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• Sat Shri Akaal Thandi Billi Jee, Welcome to sikhiwiki.(Lucky 12:53, 5 April 2008 (MDT))
• Its My Pleasure. Gain knowledge about sikhism and provide us the same, Enjoy Sikhiwiki(Lucky 10:46, 6 April 2008 (MDT))

Sat Sri Akal

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh

Welcome on sikhiwiki.

while answering to anyone please write on his talk page,just i have moved ur answer to Lucky ji's talk paGe and Sir Hari Sing ji's talk page.

THANKS

--user:sarbjeet_1313me 10:51, 6 April 2008 (MDT)

Three pillars

Sat Sri Akal Koolkat ji

Diagram showing some of the important Sikh beliefs
Click to enlarge

Many thanks for your message. As a teacher in my previous incarnation, whenever one wants to put forward an idea, various graphics have to be used. The idea of three pillars helps one remember:

• Naam Japna (focus of God), Kirat Karni (honest living) and Vand Chakna

These pillars stand on the firm foundation of Simran and Sewa

Pillars and foundations don't belong to anyone. They are there for us all to use to the best of our ability for whatever purpose we choose. If you think that another faith has used pillars to explain their faith and so we cannot use them - Then I think that is not correct. Consider this - for example, the Muslim faith promoted the concept of one God - Guru Nanak said the same thing - did our Guru "copy" others? No, because the Guru added that fasting was wrong; rituals were wrong, etc, etc.

We should not get bogged down in these arguments otherwise we will not be able to educate our youth in the best way possible. Lets teach our youth in the best way possible using icons and graphics so that they can easily understand the philosophy of our Gurus.

I hope this helps you understand my reasoning for using this concept. das, Hari Singh 13:48, 7 April 2008 (MDT)

Sat Shri Akaal

O Thandi billi jee kee haal aa?? Kimey reha Edinsborugh da trip tae Kabir jee barey kee kujh padeyaa kujh sahnu illitrate uneducated peoples nu ve sikhaa dooo.(Lucky 13:53, 5 July 2008 (UTC))

Guru Har Gobind

Our Gurus never said that he is his foe or he is his freind. So it looks quite different enemies of Guru Har Gobind. It is better to write Pepole Against Guru ji. Jahangir Was first against guru ji but he turned his mind and beg sorry. I was asking how was your last trip BB G and have your read about Kabir Ji inadvance? And yes do not call me brother call me Bhaa Ji(In punjabi) OK. like icall BB G. Harpreet Bhaa Gee. And yes i will request to all call me Harpreet Bhaa G. Neither Bhraa G nor brother and even not veer G. Keep Enjoying hehehe(Lucky 16:11, 7 July 2008 (UTC))

Guru Hargobind

Thandi Billy ji, Sat Shri Akaal Apparently i was in agreement with you about the article needing some changes. I saw your comment to this effect only after i had done some editing myself when I noticed that discussion was not red, but blue. Hope this helps. Allenwalla 17:59, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Archive?

SSA, Didn't know i could archive a page, can you tell me where the directions are for this.

My history book on the Sikhs, purchased at Berkley, by a respected Sikh historian gives this account stating that Baba Buddha a man of peace like his fellow Sikhs of the time had nothing to do with swords and certainly didn't spend anymore time than necessary around armed Mughal soldiers.

The incident as described by the historian that you have discounted has nothing that I see as accidental.

The young Guru asked Baba Buddha to put the Seli aside and asked for a sword. Whether tying a shoelace or a tie all of us have to learn backwards as we are inside our body and observe outside--i.e. we never see ourselves as others see us. We see only a mirrored reflection.

It is easy for me to think that Baba Buddha would simply put the 1st sword on the Guru's right side - the same side he would be putting it if he had observed others doing it (i.e. Baba Buddha's left). The Guru, if this had happened, would have been gracious enough not to correct him, as he was by then a well respected, even revered elder, a practise the youth of today seem to have forgotten. Since he had intended to use two swords (Miri & Piri) and asked for a second, it would have mattered little to him if they were put on in a "correct order".

As this is and old history recounted for hundred of years I respect it. You can of course change the story for you are the one who sees, the error or accident that I do not see.

Througout history, for thousands of years, the right hand has been associated with good. Words for right are good respectable words, words for left are usually disparaging, the lefthand having dirtier duties. In Sa'udi Arabia one is even corrected by a host for eating with the left hand and I imagine this is true for Iran, Iraq and even India. Guru Hargobind was certainly unusual in donning two swords. I have never read if there are any accounts of his fighting using both swords as the left hand was used by many to hold a shield. I do not know if Sikhs with a sword mounted a horse differently than Western soldiers did during the same era, but usually one has to mount a horse from one side only to avoid having the sword get in the way.

Questions: Which hand do you imagine Guru Gobind Singh ji would have held his sword in as he announced his sword was hungry for the head of a devotee? Would he have raised it over his head in his left hand or is the tradition of right hand for eating, writing and fighting not followed by Sikhs? Even growing up in the 50s in America my left hand was spanked by my teachers in an effort to have me not use that pesky sinister, gauche hand for things like eating and writing. Why do you imagine wives always fall on the left in marriage ceremonies. And why do you think that the Akal Takht is canted to face the East, as is Notre Dame in Paris, instead of lining up with the axis of the Golden Temple? If you have any answers to these questions please let me know.

And as you think my talk page is too long, please educate me on how to archive it. Could you add as we all have a few details pertaining to your life? Where you live, age, interests, ect.

Das Allenwalla 17:59, 9 July 2008 (UTC)