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Circumcision and muslim women

Where you go the idea that a women cannot be muslim because she is not circumcised, will be glad if you can point out to any verses from hadith.

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Guru Nanak says:

ਸੁੰਨਤਿ ਕੀਏ ਤੁਰਕੁ ਜੇ ਹੋਇਗਾ ਅਉਰਤ ਕਾ ਕਿਆ ਕਰੀਐ ॥ If circumcision makes one a Muslim, then what about a woman?

I don't know what the Koran say about circumcision but the practise and tradition is that Muslim males have to be circumcised to be Muslim. Guru Nanak questions this practise? Why does a male person have to undergo this tradition when a female is a Muslin without undergoing this procedure! That is the question! Why the discrimination and why interfere with God's will. After all if God wanted to create males without foreskin, surely He has the power to do it? Hari Singhtalk 18:28, 21 July 2015 (CDT)

I am the principal of Headway School, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. www.headwayschool.org I would like to add a page here on Sikhiwiki and monitor it. My idea is to have a data base of ALL of the Punjabi teaching, regular or part time, stating full info organized by state and country. Especially the ones join western world. Can you help me sett it up? js sidhu

Meat Eating

Hi Hari Singh,

Thanks for your reply. Just like you quoted many shabads from Guru Granth Sahib which suggest that meat eating is not allowed in sikh religion, i can quote many shabads which would suggest that meat eating is not forbidden in sikh religion. But i don't want to get into that debate as it would become a never ending debate. It has already been debated alot b/w various groups and the entire material and arguments/counter-arguments are available on internet. My point was simple - Sikhiwiki is a platform to teach about sikh principles to the whole world and not to present our "personal interpretation" of sikhi to the world. We all agree on one point i.e. sikh gurus asked sikhs not to engage in fruitless debates on "meat eating". So, why to include such a point in dissimilarities section of islam and sikhi which is controversial in nature?

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Dear Khalsa ji

Many thanks for your response. My reply is not based on "personal interpretation"; it is based on Gurbani - the actual words are there for all to read. All I have done is referred you to various quotations from Gurbani. It is very clear from these quotations what is intended by the Gurus. Further, the concept of Daya (compassion) is central to Sikhi - see the article "Dharma is the son of compassion" - "Ḏẖoul ḏẖaram ḏaiā kā pūṯ" (Japji sahib)

I have searched high and low and spoken to lots of dedicated Gursikhs who have practised Gurmat for many decades and I have not come across any clear evidence to promote "meat-eating" for a Gurmukh. If you cannot understand that it is cruel to kill animals then it is unlikely that we can make any progress on this topic. We are all on our own paths in life and I agree that there is no point in engaging in any heated argument on this topic.

In Sikhi at Gurdwaras, vegetarian food is always offered; every time I have been to a Mosque or Muslim gathering, the food offered includes meat. Clearly, this is a dissimilarity between the 2 religions!

Kind regards, Hari Singhtalk 11:34, 23 August 2015 (CDT)