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Hello, Sat Sri Akal, Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh, Namastae, Salaam, ਜੀ ਆਇਆਂ ਨੂੰ: Koolkat Ji! A very warm welcome and thanks for registering an account SikhiWiki. I hope you will bookmark this Sikhi site and keep visiting it on a regular basis. Also, you can help us enhance this site by checking, amending and adding to it and also by discussing issues on the discussion pages and telling others about this popular website. Please feel free to add or amend any of the topics that you have knowledge about. Don't worry about making mistakes as these can be easily corrected.


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  • Sat Shri Akaal Thandi Billi Jee, Welcome to sikhiwiki.(Lucky 12:53, 5 April 2008 (MDT))
  • Its My Pleasure. Gain knowledge about sikhism and provide us the same, Enjoy Sikhiwiki(Lucky 10:46, 6 April 2008 (MDT))


Sat Sri Akal

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh


Welcome on sikhiwiki.

while answering to anyone please write on his talk page,just i have moved ur answer to Lucky ji's talk paGe and Sir Hari Sing ji's talk page.

THANKS

--user:sarbjeet_1313me 10:51, 6 April 2008 (MDT)

Three pillars

Sat Sri Akal Koolkat ji

Diagram showing some of the important Sikh beliefs
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Many thanks for your message. As a teacher in my previous incarnation, whenever one wants to put forward an idea, various graphics have to be used. The idea of three pillars helps one remember:

These pillars stand on the firm foundation of Simran and Sewa

Pillars and foundations don't belong to anyone. They are there for us all to use to the best of our ability for whatever purpose we choose. If you think that another faith has used pillars to explain their faith and so we cannot use them - Then I think that is not correct. Consider this - for example, the Muslim faith promoted the concept of one God - Guru Nanak said the same thing - did our Guru "copy" others? No, because the Guru added that fasting was wrong; rituals were wrong, etc, etc.

We should not get bogged down in these arguments otherwise we will not be able to educate our youth in the best way possible. Lets teach our youth in the best way possible using icons and graphics so that they can easily understand the philosophy of our Gurus.

I hope this helps you understand my reasoning for using this concept. das, Hari Singh 13:48, 7 April 2008 (MDT)

Sat Shri Akaal

O Thandi billi jee kee haal aa?? Kimey reha Edinsborugh da trip tae Kabir jee barey kee kujh padeyaa kujh sahnu illitrate uneducated peoples nu ve sikhaa dooo.(Lucky 13:53, 5 July 2008 (UTC))


Guru Har Gobind

Our Gurus never said that he is his foe or he is his freind. So it looks quite different enemies of Guru Har Gobind. It is better to write Pepole Against Guru ji. Jahangir Was first against guru ji but he turned his mind and beg sorry. I was asking how was your last trip BB G and have your read about Kabir Ji inadvance? And yes do not call me brother call me Bhaa Ji(In punjabi) OK. like icall BB G. Harpreet Bhaa Gee. And yes i will request to all call me Harpreet Bhaa G. Neither Bhraa G nor brother and even not veer G. Keep Enjoying hehehe(Lucky 16:11, 7 July 2008 (UTC))

Guru Hargobind

Thandi Billy ji, Sat Shri Akaal Apparently i was in agreement with you about the article needing some changes. I saw your comment to this effect only after i had done some editing myself when I noticed that discussion was not red, but blue. Hope this helps. Allenwalla 17:59, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Archive?

SSA, Didn't know i could archive a page, can you tell me where the directions are for this.

My history book on the Sikhs, purchased at Berkley, by a respected Sikh historian gives this account stating that Baba Buddha a man of peace like his fellow Sikhs of the time had nothing to do with swords and certainly didn't spend anymore time than necessary around armed Mughal soldiers.

The incident as described by the historian that you have discounted has nothing that I see as accidental.

The young Guru asked Baba Buddha to put the Seli aside and asked for a sword. Whether tying a shoelace or a tie all of us have to learn backwards as we are inside our body and observe outside--i.e. we never see ourselves as others see us. We see only a mirrored reflection.

It is easy for me to think that Baba Buddha would simply put the 1st sword on the Guru's right side - the same side he would be putting it if he had observed others doing it (i.e. Baba Buddha's left). The Guru, if this had happened, would have been gracious enough not to correct him, as he was by then a well respected, even revered elder, a practise the youth of today seem to have forgotten. Since he had intended to use two swords (Miri & Piri) and asked for a second, it would have mattered little to him if they were put on in a "correct order".

As this is and old history recounted for hundred of years I respect it. You can of course change the story for you are the one who sees, the error or accident that I do not see.

Througout history, for thousands of years, the right hand has been associated with good. Words for right are good respectable words, words for left are usually disparaging, the lefthand having dirtier duties. In Sa'udi Arabia one is even corrected by a host for eating with the left hand and I imagine this is true for Iran, Iraq and even India. Guru Hargobind was certainly unusual in donning two swords. I have never read if there are any accounts of his fighting using both swords as the left hand was used by many to hold a shield. I do not know if Sikhs with a sword mounted a horse differently than Western soldiers did during the same era, but usually one has to mount a horse from one side only to avoid having the sword get in the way.

Questions: Which hand do you imagine Guru Gobind Singh ji would have held his sword in as he announced his sword was hungry for the head of a devotee? Would he have raised it over his head in his left hand or is the tradition of right hand for eating, writing and fighting not followed by Sikhs? Even growing up in the 50s in America my left hand was spanked by my teachers in an effort to have me not use that pesky sinister, gauche hand for things like eating and writing. Why do you imagine wives always fall on the left in marriage ceremonies. And why do you think that the Akal Takht is canted to face the East, as is Notre Dame in Paris, instead of lining up with the axis of the Golden Temple? If you have any answers to these questions please let me know.

And as you think my talk page is too long, please educate me on how to archive it. Could you add as we all have a few details pertaining to your life? Where you live, age, interests, ect.

Das Allenwalla 17:59, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Kabir Ji

Main keha Saint kabeer barey kina ku padeya. Update he Information or you can say extra info which you read about Kabir on his page. Well has you joined any kind of coaching camp for sikhi study or gurdwara or in school??(Lucky 13:05, 10 July 2008 (UTC))

Bahot Daanavaad!

SSA, Koolcat ji, I have always assumed That Guru Hargobind knew exactly what he was doing with miri and piri never thought that there was any accident. Left and right are fairly important though only because we are constantly judging good and bad. Left gets stuck in with the bad usually, but this is all man made or from the mind if you will.

You have, probably by accident, answered a question for me that I asked yesterday. I was wondering why the beautiful teachings of Guru Nanak could ever be diverted to become exclusive. Why do I read articles here like the Kamagata Maru where Sikh writer/s complain about the Sikhs who did manage to settle in Canada and the American west talk about how unfair the other citizens (usually labeled white/though many Sikhs i have met are as 'light' as anyone) treated them unfairly. Each new contingent of new citizens from every country faced such discrimination. The Italians, the Irish, the Swedish have all had to earn the respect of those already in the club. The Dutch were here well before the English who they dispized. Lower Manhattan is a warren of spider webbed streets, the remainder of NYC is gridded in logical order. Harlem was once Italian though it has a Dutch name.

Men have always guarded 'their' women and turf even if the women are suposed to be equal. Bad enough that a man has to lose his daughter to a man, but a man of another tribe, race or religion, well that's another matter. In the stories of Sikhs who settled in the west, who came without womenfolk, Sikhs complained that they were excluded and forbidden to marry 'whites', but I believe that Sikhi still outlaws marrying anyone but a Sikh. How did those men expect that Christians would behave any differently. But I know of no Christian edicts against anyone marrying anyone of any religion. Only the parents seem to interfere in that. We all do that out of fear. If we can make a private club and limit access, well there is at least that, that we can seem to control, but that is only an allusion.

The edict about not marrying outside the faith still seems to be alive, at least in 'Bend it like Bekam' though the father had warmed to the young Anglo guy, at least they were playing soccer together.

I can't imagine Guru Nanak ever putting any marriage restrictions on anyone, he was bothered over the fact that his sister and mother could only get the twice born string from their husbands. I also can't believe that he would ever create any institution that would not be open to everyone of any religion, as it bothered him greatly that casteism kept the Dalits from entering a temple. I think he would applaud Guru Gobind Singh's move of Amrit taken and dispensed from a common bowl of iron. I think he would have trouble with the Takhats being exclusive. This seems to be because as you say Dashmesh Guruji gave non-religious matters over the Sangat. From what I can tell there seems to be an ever continuing struggle going on in Sikhi over who has the final say, ect., with one faction assasinating leaders of another. Politics seem to have mixed with religion.

The Gurus didn't hold much with Avatars (God coming to earth in human form), but some Sikhs paint out faces of portraits labeled as X Guru, painting in (1 Onkar) over the face. Many would probably be moved to violence if any actor or film portrayed a Guru. Hence knowledge of the Gurus is limited and Sikhi so unknown that Sikhs have been killed by ignorant folks who don't know of the suffering of the Sikhs at Mughal hands.

I didn't write anything about myself for several weeks, people started asking for some details, one even saying he would not 'talk' with me further if I didn't write some few details about myself, I don't think he ever has, anyway. I have never talked much about myself either. But we usually ask for a few details, no real or complete name or e-mail though one has done that that i know of. Hobbies, interests, education, gender, work, education, bithplace, ect. give us something to relate to.

When i was teaching i used to ask my students to give me a short list of likes, dislikes, interests, goals and even their favorite music or hobbies. I usually had 50 or more people in a lecture class. The notes on each student + their photo and name made it easy for me to relate and design my lectures with questions dear to each student that related to whatever we were studying. Rab Rakha, Allenwalla 20:22, 10 July 2008 (UTC) one last question - where did you learn English?

Rather good I thought

SSA, No your English is excellent, it had me thinking you were schooled at Bishop Cotton School at Shimla or the Doon school at Dehradun and the lack of typical British spellings had me wondering if you had some education in the states. Have a good day. Rab Rakha Allenwalla 13:22, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Guess you are not active, as i haven't heard from you at all.