User talk:Hari singh: Difference between revisions

WJKF. There are two main articles on Guru Nanak Dev ji - one is Guru Nanak and the other is Guru Nanak Dev. The name needs to be 'standardised' so that all links go to one article - I'd suggest keeping the Guru Nanak heading. The content on the two needs to be amalgamted however. This probably also applies to Guru Angad, Guru Arjan etc I'll start on it sometime soon, but if you want to have a go, go for it. WJKF --Navroop Singh 02:35, 20 Apr 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)

Sysop Privledges

Hari Singh, You have been a very active user on SikhiWiki so I have assigned you as a "sysop" (System Operator) on SikhiWiki. This will allow you to edit "protected" pages (like the home page) and also do other administrative things as needed. It is great to have your involvement in this great project!

--WikiSysop 09:58, 21 Apr 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)

References

WKJF. Good to meet a fellow East Londoner! I myself am based in Leyton, go to the local Leyton Gurdwara there, though have been many times to all the Gurdwaras in London 'specially down your Ilford/Seven Kings/East Ham way. Anyway, just wanted to let you know that I've added a Wiki References template to make it easy to cite references in the correct format. If you look at the source code for the reference below you'll be able to copy and paste that (with changes) for any references you use! Is also sets up the ISBN link so readers who are further interested can purchase books for themselves. WJKF.

• Macauliffe, M.A (1909). The Sikh Religion: Its Gurus Sacred Writings and Authors. Low Price Publications. ISBN 8175361328.

--Navroop Singh 06:37, 23 Apr 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)

Mool Mantar

WJKF, of course I don't mind the article being added to! The more the merrier! The Mool Mantar is the most difficult composition to translate since it is a condensation of, in essence, the entire SGGS. Jap Ji Sahib is said to be an extrapolation of the Mool Mantar; Sukhmani Sahib a further extrapolation of Jap Ji Sahib and the rest of the SGGS is a further extrapolation on these. As a result, I can quite easily forsee separate articles for each term; a literal translation really doesn't do justice. The article is far from complete - the basic commentry there is by Dr.Santokh Singh, though I've added a point or two by Dr.Gopal Singh. I want to hopefully put up the sanskrit origins of the word and give a further commentry on each, plus put up any varying translations: Dr.Gopal Singh suggests that GurPrasad is one word and to be translated as just 'the Enlightener'. Plus there's also an article ik onkar whose contents need to be included here. WJKF --Navroop Singh 01:48, 26 Apr 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)

Raga

WJKF Hari Singh ji, I've seen what you've done with the Raag list, looks good! Instead of ranking Raags in order of appearence, would stating page ranges of the sections be better/also useful?--Navroop Singh 09:57, 27 Apr 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)

WJKF, do you know why the Raags are in the order they're in? Is to do with the traditional Raag timings? Is it to do with Mood? Is it to do with scale? --Navroop Singh 13:04, 27 Apr 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)

Good Work!

You are doing a really great job on Sikhiwiki Hari Singh! I just wanted to let you know and thank you for being a big part of the SikhiWiki project. We have been watching every day as you and Navroop Singh add new content, re-organize and make things much better.

A few days ago we started featuring the "sikhiwiki featured article" on the SikhNet.com homepage and since then over 1,200 people have been coming to the site every day, which is great. We will continue to feature new articles on SikhNet as you add them. It would be great if one of you could update the featured article on the Sikhiwiki home page every week. Also email me and Joginder Singh when you do so that we can also update the SikhNet.com home page feature.

Thanks again and keep up the good work!

Gurumustuk Singh Khalsa

ps. If you know of others who might be interesting in helping with SikhiWiki please try to get them involved. The more people the more we can do.

--gmustuk 10:50, 6 May 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)

Do you review changes made by other people?

I wanted to know if you look at the changes that others make to articles? Another thing that would be helpfull is to have more people reviewing the changes that are made by people to prevent "trouble makers" (deleting content or accidentally erasing info that should be there) and also to ensure the quality of content.

I do look from time to time...but I'm not on the site as much as you because of my other duties at SikhNet --gmustuk 15:13, 6 May 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)

Article of the Week

WJKF, I've finished the Mool Mantar article, please have a look when you can (I've just got one more picture to add which I'll do this evening). I'd like to put it forward for the 'article of the week' feature - let me know if that's ok, or if you have another article in mind. --Navroop Singh 01:47, 9 May 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)

Sakhis

WJKF, Hari Singh ji, I see you're setting up a Sakhis cateogry - would it be possible to change '1st Guru Nanak' to 'Guru Nanak Sakhis' ? I think it's a more appropriate title - or even 'Guru Nanak Stories' --Navroop Singh 08:51, 9 May 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)

Ah, I've just realised that I've left my mobile at home - I'll try and return the call this evening.--Navroop Singh 09:12, 9 May 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)

Apologies I couldn't return your call yesterday, I got back quite late. Emal me your contact number, and I can give you a ring later on this evening.--Navroop Singh 02:37, 10 May 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)

Regarding Controversial Topics

Regarding your questions relating to controvresial topics (namdhari, etc)... I think the best approach is really to be as neutral as possible. Like a reporter which allows both sides to have their say so that it is unbiased. Making judgements is what causes trouble because there is always someone on the other side who doesn't agree or might take offense.

The key part of our guidelines is:

• Avoid bias. Articles should be written from a neutral point of view, representing differing views on a subject fairly and sympathetically.

Even if you don't agree with the person/information it is important to avoid bias. I know this first hand because I have grown up as a Sikh who also practices Yoga and Meditation. Many Sikhs who don't know much about the practice would be quick to make judgements. Who is right and who is wrong? It's all a matter of perspective and what the person knows.

Luckily we haven't had much controversy on SikhiWiki...but it is good to get really clear with our intention to be neutral and just provide information.

--gmustuk 19:33, 10 May 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)

Controversial Topics - reply

That is totally fine. There are many situations where it is good to get a few people's thoughts to make a balanced decision. I'm totally fine with you emailing me if you have questions or want input. If we had more active users...that would probably be what we would discuss in the "discussion" tab of the article. --gmustuk 05:49, 11 May 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)

Bhagat Paintings

Hari Singh ji, for the Bhagat Paintings you've been adding, can we also include in the descriptions the relevant artists? This will in future help to build the Arts and Artists Cateogry. WJKF --Navroop Singh 04:59, 13 May 2005 (Central Daylight Time)

Library

WJKF Hari Singh ji, have you been to Shepherd's Bush Gurdwara? Reason I ask is that I've been told/read somewhere that they have a very good and large Sikh Library - do you any anything about this?--Navroop Singh 09:14, 17 May 2005 (Central Daylight Time)

Photos

If you are looking for particular pictures for articles you can use http://www.sikhphotos.com has a resource. If there are some images you want to use on Sikhiwiki just send me the photo caption names and I'll upload them.

Gurumustuk

New Wiki Features

New Image Gallery

Image Gallery Tag

--WikiSysop 23:00, 17 May 2005 (Central Daylight Time)

Guru Nanak in Baghdad

no problem. The article is just a basic article, I've got to re-write a lot of it, and add some more of the actual history and evidence. If you look at tourist info for Baghdad, you'll nearly always find mention of Guru Nanak's shrine! Also, unfortunately, it appears that some of the shrine has been damaged due to the Iraq war. If I can get the article finsihed then may consider putting it as article of the week, otherwise, as you suggested the SGGS may be a good one. For the following week we need to get the Akal Takhat article finished and put up! WJKF --Navroop Singh 17:13, 20 May 2005 (Central Daylight Time)

Article of the Week

WJKF Hari Singh ji, What do you think should be article of the week? We can have the SGGS article, or the Guru Nanak in Baghdad; next week will be the Akal Takht article. --Navroop Singh 03:43, 23 May 2005 (Central Daylight Time)

New Article of the Week

After a few minutes, I've decided to put the Guru Nanak in Baghdad article up - I think fewer people have heard of the existence of the stone slab and shrine etc and I think younger people will be more intrigued by it? Hopefully it'll get a good response. --Navroop Singh 04:35, 23 May 2005 (Central Daylight Time)

Pages in different "Namespace"

Any help or any pages that are not really the SikhWiki educational articles should go under a different namespace. For example..

The help documents should go under the "help" namespace. http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php?title=Help:Contents

You can see the pages and what namespace they are in at: http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Allpages

There are some older ones like copyright and other things like that which I did not setup in the right namespace and are just general articles. We can move those to a page in the right namespace.

--Gmustuk 12:19, 2 Jun 2005 (Central Daylight Time)