Talk:Gurbani and women

Hari ji, some problems see below.

bqIh sulKxI scu sMqiq pUq

bqIh sulKxI scu sMqiq pUq

Hari ji, the words above are defaulting.

I have changed these lines in the copy below, as I realize they are hard to see in edit box as this was copied from a narrow magazine column.

According to Sikhism God has no body, no gentilia and hence no sex, 162 He is all–soul and unborn. To label Him as male or female is patently absurd. Similarly one and the same conscious self is

similarly one and the same conscious self is // is what?

You may be able to tell what the words in red below are suposed to say.

Woman as wife

It was very necessary in the times of the Sikh Gurus to restore respect to the wives and consider them equal and praiseworthy. Guru Nanak set an example when he began addressing his wife “Parjat” (fulfiller of all desires).138 He always addressed his wife lovingly as prmySr kIey sul`KxIeyN (My dear blessed Sulakhni). Guru Arjan Dev wrote: “She is the most noble of all the family. She counsels and advises the elders and youngers.

Sikhs were restricted from treating women as playthings. They were to consider women other than their wives as daughters, sisters, and mothers depending on their ages.141 The ideal situation was described by Bhai Gurdas when he wrote “With one wife you are as good as a bachelor”.142

The Guru calls a wife bqIh sulKxI scu sMqiq pUq (having thirty two qualities) (page 371)

Celibacy

Celibacy was a cloak for licentiousness and profligacy and the so-called saints, sidhs, monks, and yogis were corrupting the society. .146 People feared their noised about miraculous powers and did not dare murmur a word against them.

Should the above lines be - people, in their superstitous ignorance, feared their claims of 

miraculous powers and did not dare murmur a word against them.

I assume that when Bhai Gurdas writes - “With one wife you are as good as a bachelor”.142

that all bachelors are expected to be celibate.

Allenwalla 07:14, 12 February 2010 (UTC)