Talk:B-40 Janamsakhi

One of the beautiful illustrations attributed to Alam Chand, a mason and gifted artist as well.

B-40 Janamsakhi

Lucky ji or anyone, do you know if this illustration has any title. It seems as well to include Guru Hargobind ji (left bottom [7 o'clock} two swords (Miri and Piri?) are evident) and another Guru at (4 o'clock) (the third shown with a Halo) who also is noted for having a hawk and bow and arrows.

I go further to guess that it is Bhai Mardana in a topi characteristic of the Muslim Mirasi which is often seen worn by the minstrels in old european art and down through today as a hat associated with 'entertainers/Minstrels'. The musicians at bottom could be Balwand & Satta (when did tablas become common? and the string instrument seems to have a gourd at tuning end of the neck. (a vina or sitar?)

All men are pictured with Karas on their wrists; was this a common practise before Guru Gobind Singh Ji? Allenwalla 02:55, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Would the person who commissioned this have had himself included in the illustrations?

Guru Nanak is pictured with the patchwork coat of a Faqir. Looking closely- names in Gurmukhi are above each of the men.

Though this collection of sakhis is thought to be before Guru Gobind Singh ji. Could the Guru at 4 o'clock be other than he. He too has the quiver, bow, sword, hawk, kalgi and 'Halo'. Surely Guru Tegh Bahadur was never pictured with such symbols?

Can anyone read the names above the portraits?

Wondering if my label added to illustration is correct?

This seems almost as if it is a later "Family Tree of the Sikh Gurus, with Guru Nanak sitting at the root of the tree of Sikhi which covers them all. Leaving out the man doing sewa (fan) and the two musicians there are 10 figures, one a child (Har Krishan?). Though I don't know why some would no have Halos? The labels could answer my questions. thanks for any participation, Raab Rakha.