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'''Ida Pingula Sukmana''' are Spiritual Concepts and one of subject touched by Gurbani in which Gurbani cut the Yogics range of vision on these three and etymological these are related to inner soul. Yogics believe that Dasam Dwar is somehwhere in brain but in Gurmat it is in heart o person. So Ida Pingula and Sukhmana are spiritual concepts not physical.
'''Ida Pingula Sukmana''' are spiritual concepts and one of the subjects touched by Gurbani in which Gurbani cuts the Yogic’s range of vision on these three concepts and etymologicals. These are related to inner soul. Yogics believe that Dasam Dwaar is somewhere in brain but in Gurmat it is in heart of the person. So Ida, Pingula, and Sukhmana are spiritual concepts, not physical.


==Yogics Viewpoint==
==Yogics Viewpoint==
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<center><big>ਸ੝ਖਮਨਾ ਇੜਾ ਪਿੰਗ੝ਲਾ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਾ ਆਪੇ ਅਲਖ੝ ਲਖਾਝ ॥</big></center>
<center><big>ਸ੝ਖਮਨਾ ਇੜਾ ਪਿੰਗ੝ਲਾ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਾ ਆਪੇ ਅਲਖ੝ ਲਖਾਝ ॥</big></center>


The above line says that it's one who solve the riddle of Irha Pingla and Sukhmana, by grace of god. Now Question is what's to solve in these nerves given by Yogics? According to them Dasam Dwar is straightaway in brain, but it's not there   as per Gurbani, as Gurbani says ""Tirkuti Chutey Dasam Dwar Khuley"", when person leave Tirkuti the Dasam Dwar opens, i.e when person leave Mind then Dasam Dwar Opens.
The above line says that it's one who solve the riddle of Irha, Pingla, and Sukhmana, by grace of god. Now the question is what's to solve in these nerves given by Yogics? According to the Dasam Dwaar, it is straightaway in the brain, but it's not there as per Gurbani, as Gurbani says ""Tirkuti Chutey Dasam Dwar Khuley"", when a person leaves Tirkuti, the Dasam Dwar opens, i.e when person leaves the mind, then the Dasam Dwar opens.


<center><big>ਇੜਾ ਪਿੰਗ੝ਲਾ ਅਉਰ ਸ੝ਖਮਨਾ ਤੀਨਿ ਬਸਹਿ ਇਕ ਠਾਈ ॥<br>
<center><big>ਇੜਾ ਪਿੰਗ੝ਲਾ ਅਉਰ ਸ੝ਖਮਨਾ ਤੀਨਿ ਬਸਹਿ ਇਕ ਠਾਈ ॥<br>
The energy channels of the Ida, Pingala and Shushmanaa: these three dwell in one place.</big></center>
The energy channels of the Ida, Pingala and Shushmanaa: these three dwell in one place.</big></center>


Now these three all dwell at one place, but in the Yogic Mindset these three are seperate channels which, meet at one place, while in Gurbani it dwells at one place.
Now these three all dwell at one place, but in the Yogic mindset, these three are seperate channels which meet at one place, while in Gurbani, it dwells at one place.


So these two are enough to cut the vision of yogics, it does not at all conceide with Gurmat, the question is just what is Ida Pingula and Sukhmana in Gurmat. This can be understand by a through understanding of Gumat.  
So these two are enough to cut the vision of Yogics. These concepts do not comply with Gurmat. The question is just what the Ida, Pingula, and Sukhmana in Gurmat is. This can be understood by a thorough understanding of Gumat.  


<center><big>ਤਿਥੈ ਘੜੀਝ ਸ੝ਰਤਿ ਮਤਿ ਮਨਿ ਬ੝ਧਿ ॥<br>
<center><big>ਤਿਥੈ ਘੜੀਝ ਸ੝ਰਤਿ ਮਤਿ ਮਨਿ ਬ੝ਧਿ ॥<br>
The intuitive consciousness, intellect, understanding of the mind (Attention) and Brain are shaped there.</big></center>
The intuitive consciousness, intellect, understanding of the mind (attention) and brain are shaped there.</big></center>


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* Ida: Ida is Mann ( Our's Attention ). These are not Guru's one. The person who follow his own attentions is called [[Manmukh]]      (Face toward himself).  
* Ida: Ida is Mann ( Our's Attention ). These are not Guru's one. The person who follow his own attentions is called [[Manmukh]]      (Face toward himself).  
* Pingula: Pingula is Chitt (heart = Out Inner Soul's Attentions). Our inner soul voice is also called Satgur. The person who follows the voice of his inner, positive soul is called a Gurmukh.
* Pingula: Pingula is Chitt (heart = Out Inner Soul's Attentions). Our inner soul voice is also called Satgur. The person who follows the voice of his inner, positive soul is called a Gurmukh.
* Sukhmana: Sukhmana is Brain, if it stays with Ida (Our Attentions) it spreads Manmatt and if it stays with Pingula (Inner's Attentions) then it spreads Gurmat.
* Sukhmana: Sukhmana is the brain, if it stays with Ida (Our Attentions) it spreads Manmatt and if it stays with Pingula (Inner's Attentions) then it spreads Gurmat.


* ਇੜਾ ਪਿੰਗ੝ਲਾ ਅਉਰ ਸ੝ਖਮਨਾ ਤੀਨਿ ਬਸਹਿ ਇਕ ਠਾਈ ॥ These three nerves, stay at one place.
* ਇੜਾ ਪਿੰਗ੝ਲਾ ਅਉਰ ਸ੝ਖਮਨਾ ਤੀਨਿ ਬਸਹਿ ਇਕ ਠਾਈ ॥ These three nerves, stay at one place.

Revision as of 13:46, 23 August 2018

Ida Pingula Sukmana are spiritual concepts and one of the subjects touched by Gurbani in which Gurbani cuts the Yogic’s range of vision on these three concepts and etymologicals. These are related to inner soul. Yogics believe that Dasam Dwaar is somewhere in brain but in Gurmat it is in heart of the person. So Ida, Pingula, and Sukhmana are spiritual concepts, not physical.

Yogics Viewpoint

From Mahankosh:

  • Sukhmana : ਨੱਕ ਦੇ ਉਪਰਵਾਰ ਦੀ ਨਾੜੀ ਜਿਥੇ ਪ੝ਰਾਣਾਯਾਮ ਵੇਲੇ ਪ੝ਰਾਣ ਟਿਕਾਈਦੇ ਹਨ, ਵਿਚਕਾਰਲੀ ਨਾੜੀ ਜਿਥੇ ਪ੝ਰਾਣਾਯਾਮ ਵੇਲੇ ਸ੝ਆਸ ਟਿਕਾਈਦੇ ਹਨ। ਯੋਗੀਆਂ ਦੀ ਕਲਪੀ ਹੋਈ ਇੱਕ ਨਾੜੀ, ਜੋ ਨੱਕ ਦੇ ਮੂਲ ਤੋਂ ਲੈ ਕੇ ਕੰਗਰੋੜ ਦੇ ਨਾਲ ਹ੝ੰਦੀ ਹੋਈ ਦਿਮਾਗ ਤੀਕ ਪ੝ਚਦੀ ਹੈ. ਇਸ ਦੇ ਸੱਜੇ ਪਾਸੇ ਪਿੰਗਲਾ ਅਤੇ ਖੱਬੇ ਇੜਾ ਹੈ. ਇਹ ਨਾੜੀ ਚੰਦ੝ਰਮਾ, ਸੂਰਜ ਅਤੇ ਅਗਨਿ ਰੂਪਾ ਹੈ. ਜਦ ਅਭ੝ਯਾਸ ਨਾਲ ਇਸ ਵਿੱਚ ਪ੝ਰਾਣ ਚਲਾਈਦੇ ਹਨ ਤਦ ਅਨਹਤ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਸ੝ਣੀਦਾ ਹੈ ਅਤੇ ਆਨੰਦ ਦੀ ਪ੝ਰਾਪਤੀ ਹ੝ੰਦੀ ਹੈ. ਇਸ ਦਾ ਨਾਉਂ ਬ੝ਰਹਮਮਾਰਗ ਅਤੇ ਮਹਾਪਥ ਭੀ ਹੈ.
  • Pingula: The channel on the right side. ਹਠ ਯੋਗ ਅਨ੝ਸਾਰ ਤਿੰਨ ਪ੝ਰਧਾਨ ਨਾੜੀਆਂ ਵਿਚੋਂ ਇਕ।
  • Irha or Ida:The channel on the left side. ਯੋਗੀਆਂ ਦੀ ਮੰਨੀ ਹੋਈ ਇੱਕ ਨਾੜੀ, ਜੋ ਖੱਬੀ ਨਾਸਿਕਾ ਤੋਂ ਲੈ ਕੇ ਕੰਗਰੋੜ ਦੇ ਖੱਬੇ ਪਾਸੇ ਹ੝ੰਦੀ ਹੋਈ ਦਿਮਾਗ਼ ਵਿੱਚ ਪਹ੝ੰਚਦੀ ਹੈ. ਇਸ ਨਾੜੀ ਦ੝ਆਰਾ ਯੋਗੀ ਪ੝ਰਾਣਾਯਾਮ ਦਾ ਅਭਿਆਸ ਕਰਦੇ ਹਨ. ਇਸ ਦਾ ਨਾਉਂ ਚੰਦ੝ਰਨਾੜੀ ਭੀ ਹੈ, ਕਿਉਂਕਿ ਇਸ ਦਾ ਦੇਵਤਾ ਚੰਦ੝ਰਮਾ ਮੰਨਿਆ ਹੈ.

Gurmat Viewpoint

ਸ੝ਖਮਨਾ ਇੜਾ ਪਿੰਗ੝ਲਾ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਾ ਆਪੇ ਅਲਖ੝ ਲਖਾਝ ॥

The above line says that it's one who solve the riddle of Irha, Pingla, and Sukhmana, by grace of god. Now the question is what's to solve in these nerves given by Yogics? According to the Dasam Dwaar, it is straightaway in the brain, but it's not there as per Gurbani, as Gurbani says ""Tirkuti Chutey Dasam Dwar Khuley"", when a person leaves Tirkuti, the Dasam Dwar opens, i.e when a person leaves the mind, then the Dasam Dwar opens.

ਇੜਾ ਪਿੰਗ੝ਲਾ ਅਉਰ ਸ੝ਖਮਨਾ ਤੀਨਿ ਬਸਹਿ ਇਕ ਠਾਈ ॥
The energy channels of the Ida, Pingala and Shushmanaa: these three dwell in one place.

Now these three all dwell at one place, but in the Yogic mindset, these three are seperate channels which meet at one place, while in Gurbani, it dwells at one place.

So these two are enough to cut the vision of Yogics. These concepts do not comply with Gurmat. The question is just what the Ida, Pingula, and Sukhmana in Gurmat is. This can be understood by a thorough understanding of Gumat.

ਤਿਥੈ ਘੜੀਝ ਸ੝ਰਤਿ ਮਤਿ ਮਨਿ ਬ੝ਧਿ ॥
The intuitive consciousness, intellect, understanding of the mind (attention) and brain are shaped there.