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:The problem I have is that the English Wikipedia demands [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources| Reliable Sources]. I can only find discussion groups and blogs that make the claim that circumcision is frowned on by Sikhs. Sandeep Singh Brar's web-site [http://www.sikhs.org/], although it appears to be a high quality description of Sikhism is, in essence, only his own interpretation. If he is a world-leader of Sikhism then his word would be perfectly acceptable - but I have nothing to assure me of his status. Furthermore, Sandeep Singh Brar's web-site appears to be dated 1998 (or 2003?), and may not have been updated since. I need (and Sikhs themselves might benefit from) an "official" statement of the situation. It doesn't have to be "absolute" (eg stating that no Sikhs, ever, would carry out circumcision), but it does need to state something such as "Sikhs generally consider this practise discouraged by their religion, and very few Sikhs are circumcised except for medical reasons". Furthermore, it needs to come from an "organisation" that appears to speak for most (or perhaps all?) Sikhs. [[User:PalestineRemembered|PalestineRemembered]] 12:02, 12 May 2007 (EDT) | :The problem I have is that the English Wikipedia demands [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources| Reliable Sources]. I can only find discussion groups and blogs that make the claim that circumcision is frowned on by Sikhs. Sandeep Singh Brar's web-site [http://www.sikhs.org/], although it appears to be a high quality description of Sikhism is, in essence, only his own interpretation. If he is a world-leader of Sikhism then his word would be perfectly acceptable - but I have nothing to assure me of his status. Furthermore, Sandeep Singh Brar's web-site appears to be dated 1998 (or 2003?), and may not have been updated since. I need (and Sikhs themselves might benefit from) an "official" statement of the situation. It doesn't have to be "absolute" (eg stating that no Sikhs, ever, would carry out circumcision), but it does need to state something such as "Sikhs generally consider this practise discouraged by their religion, and very few Sikhs are circumcised except for medical reasons". Furthermore, it needs to come from an "organisation" that appears to speak for most (or perhaps all?) Sikhs. [[User:PalestineRemembered|PalestineRemembered]] 12:02, 12 May 2007 (EDT) | ||
::The best source for solid information is the [[Guru Granth Sahib]] or [[SGGS]] for short. This is like the "Bible" for the Sikh - It is the ultimate authority for the Sikhs. Online versions of this holy script are available - See [[Gurbani Online]] for several links. | |||
::* Also please see new article: [[Sikhism and Circumcision]]. It has direct links to the online text. | |||
::* The "Sikh Bible" is available at Amazon - It is the version translated into English by Dr Gopal Singh. Also, I have three different translation of this Granth, if you need photos, etc to verify the information. Every Sikh temple called a [[Gurdwara]] has several original copies of the [[SGGS]] in [[Gurmukhi]] script. All the original Gurmukhi text on the online version of [[SGGS]] is exactly the same as the "book" version. No one is allowed to change this original script. It has remained the same since it was written from about 1500 onwards. Several different English translations of the original script are available in book form and one version is freely available online. I hope this helps – if you need any further info, please do not hesitate to contact again. Thanks. [[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 22:43, 12 May 2007 (EDT) | |||
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Thanks for your message re: circumcision
I have noted your comments on "circumcision" and I agree with your analysis that: "Sikhism avoids "modification of the body" (eg no haircuts) (Sandeep Singh Brar, 1998) and "condemns blind rituals". Accessible sources include circumcision in this prohibition (references)".
This is the correct interpretation of Sikhi principles. Please note that I can only think of one situation where the practice of "circumcision" can be allowed and that is if there was medical need to it to protect the person's health. Hari Singh 07:09, 12 May 2007 (EDT)
- Thankyou.
- The problem I have is that the English Wikipedia demands Reliable Sources. I can only find discussion groups and blogs that make the claim that circumcision is frowned on by Sikhs. Sandeep Singh Brar's web-site [1], although it appears to be a high quality description of Sikhism is, in essence, only his own interpretation. If he is a world-leader of Sikhism then his word would be perfectly acceptable - but I have nothing to assure me of his status. Furthermore, Sandeep Singh Brar's web-site appears to be dated 1998 (or 2003?), and may not have been updated since. I need (and Sikhs themselves might benefit from) an "official" statement of the situation. It doesn't have to be "absolute" (eg stating that no Sikhs, ever, would carry out circumcision), but it does need to state something such as "Sikhs generally consider this practise discouraged by their religion, and very few Sikhs are circumcised except for medical reasons". Furthermore, it needs to come from an "organisation" that appears to speak for most (or perhaps all?) Sikhs. PalestineRemembered 12:02, 12 May 2007 (EDT)
- The best source for solid information is the Guru Granth Sahib or SGGS for short. This is like the "Bible" for the Sikh - It is the ultimate authority for the Sikhs. Online versions of this holy script are available - See Gurbani Online for several links.
- Also please see new article: Sikhism and Circumcision. It has direct links to the online text.
- The "Sikh Bible" is available at Amazon - It is the version translated into English by Dr Gopal Singh. Also, I have three different translation of this Granth, if you need photos, etc to verify the information. Every Sikh temple called a Gurdwara has several original copies of the SGGS in Gurmukhi script. All the original Gurmukhi text on the online version of SGGS is exactly the same as the "book" version. No one is allowed to change this original script. It has remained the same since it was written from about 1500 onwards. Several different English translations of the original script are available in book form and one version is freely available online. I hope this helps – if you need any further info, please do not hesitate to contact again. Thanks. Hari Singh 22:43, 12 May 2007 (EDT)
