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This is oviously taken from another source as there are numbers referencing references throughtout the piece.
== More surnames to be added ==


The original author/ source of the material is not noted. This is not a good practise for a wiki based on the fundamentals of truth, we are slipping down a slippery slope here.
Sodhi, Basaati, Sain, Waddan, Sani, Duchha, Sainch, Balham, Gadhi, Bhatti, Jhangher, Buttar, Langrial/Langryal, Sinsinwar


I will look for the source if any one knows of this please add [[user:Allenwalla]] 09:02, 23 February 2008 (MST)
The above names have been added to the page, Many thanks for the suggestion. [[user:hari singh|Hari Singh]]<sup>[[User talk:Hari singh|talk]]</sup> 12:15, 1 November 2024 (MDT)    
== To be added ==


my middle name is allen it has been passed for many generations down the fathers side of family , who came from england hundreds of years ago. The Alans who crossed the channel and also split to head south into spain and crossed at Jabal Tĝriq (جبل طارق) over to the Atlas mtns. and Morrocco (where they put up a @#*@# good fight against Islams' invasion, have always been of great interest to me - all have seemed to be mountain men who took to the high grounds. [[user:Allenwalla]] 09:02, 23 February 2008 (MST)good to see the alans added in this article. Since learning of Guru Nanak i have always felt most at home among the Sikhs i have come to know and love.
*The Scythians are sometimes also referred to as the Pontic Scythians, were an ancient Eastern Iranian equestrian nomadic people who had migrated from Central Asia to Afghanistan, Pakistan, North India, Ukraine and Southern Russia from approximately the 7th century BC until the 3rd century BC. They are different from the Aryan race. Jats are one of the Scythian clans.


==Beoow Revision as of 03:26, 10 October 2009 (view source)
*The Jat people are subdivided into numerous clans, some of which overlap with the Ror, Arain, Saini Rajput, Ramgharia, Rajput, Khatri and other groups because of Clan exogamy and other possible reasons.
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You Jatt's should be ashamed of your self's for destroying such a good religion with such high quality. You all think that only a jatt can be a true Sikh, wake up to your self’s you losers you preach one thing and practice a another, but trust me my friends one day the great almighty god himself will punish you all for destroying the name of the true khalsa Panth with arrogance and your low life beliefs and I will be right there helping him can’t wait for that day
*Jats were called Chandal in Past times, which meant they were out of the Varna System and that they were lower than the Shudras and were considered Untouchables.


PANTH KSS KHALSA
But Guru Gobind Singh ji Changed all that by giving Sikhs Sovereignty.


== hey ==
"Inn Gareeb Sikhan Ko Dai Hoon Paatshaahi, Yeh Yaad Karrain Hamaree Guryaaill


Hey
Jinaki Jaat Gaut Kul Naahi, Sardaari Bhee Naahi Kadaahill
I am a Jatt but I could not find my surname here. Its Nehal, though some people write it as nahal also. Could you please add it here..thanks


A lot of information here. Genetic tests confirm that Jatts share genetic resembles to the 'mesa gaeta' tribe, said to be the origin of jatts. My mother's village 'Bandala' near Taran tara, Punjab, India,is the originator of all Hundal's in the world, the man named 'Handal' started it and Indian acheologists have discovered architecture relating to the time of Alexander in the village. He was said to have retired from the army and settled there. A very close greek connection.
Unhi Kao Sardaar Banaoon, Tabbai Gobind Singh Naam Kahaoon||


Will add some with evidence soon.
Ab Mai Chandi Paath Padhwaoon, In Hi Te Turkan Marwaoon,


== Jatt? ==
Lughu Chiddian Te Baaz Tudaoo Tabbai Gobind Singh Naam Kahaoon..."


Hi,
"I bestow sovereignty to the humble Sikhs so as they may recount my Guruship..


I am on here to ask a question about the Jatt status.  As this is a sikhi site, I think it is important to add that we are not supposed to have a class system. Guru Nanak Dev Ji wanted us to be equal, ALL THE PEOPLE should be the same! there is no separation between race or class.
Those who have no standing, no worth- no sardari.. I shall make them Sardars-only then will I refer myself as Gobind Singh..


== Missing Jat lastname. ==
I will make them recite the Chandi paath (chandi di var: Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji)..


Please consider adding "Shahid" and "Shaheed" to the list. I am from village Shaheedan in Amritsar distt. Patti Tehsil. The village is mainly "Khera", but somewhere around my great-grandfather's time in early 1900s, our families abandoned the use of Khera and started using Shahid/Shaheed as last names in honor of amar Shaheed Baba Deep Singh Ji who has a connection to our village and hence the village name. Our family draws a direct decendence to babaji as well.
I will make them destroy the Turks (invading Islamists)..
Thanks for your consideration.  
Vickramjit Singh Shahid.


Vickramjit Singh Shahid, may be you are too young, maybe you are ill informed. Jatts have nothing to do with arabians so they should in no situation ever resort to adopt arabian names. Jatts have nothing to do with sikhism, sikhism started by khatries but survived due to Jatts as they chose to sacrifice Jatt lives for the ungrateful hindus.
And have sparrows hunt down hawks- only then will I refer to myself as Gobind Singh."


Jatts were never a part of any religion. Jatt history predates all these religions. To truly know Jatt Roots, you need to google getae, massagetae, Queen Tomyris, dahae, dacian, yuezhi, varkhana, parthians, sarens, Thyssagetae,  Tyragetae, goths, jutes, white huns, saka, scythians etc.
* The above text has been added to the page, Many thanks for the suggestion. [[user:hari singh|Hari Singh]]<sup>[[User talk:Hari singh|talk]]</sup> 12:15, 1 November 2024 (MDT)


Dahae today known as Dahya Jatts mainly in Haryana, Vark(virkana)known as Virk Jatts in Punjab and Birk in europe. are ancient Jatts who still hold on to their original clan name, Do you think Baba deep Singh was the only sahid among Jatts(of course that applies only if he is a Jatt to begin with, because people also claim that he was a mahton or mazhbi), Jatts history is full of Martyrs.
==List of Misals inaccurate==
*Ramgharia Misl is not a Jat Misl it's a Sikh Misl.  
*Phulkia and Sukerchakia Misls have Bhatti Rajput origins


If you are really a Jatt why are not you and your family proud of Khera got as if not millions at least thousands of Khera Jatts have sacrificed their lives so you could be today one of their offspring. Kera got is far more glorious than any shahid or shaheed arabian bullshit word. Learn never ever to change your clan name or your coming generations would not know where they belong or who they are. and it be all your fault as you are the one who deprive them of the information by changing your clan name. they may be treated as arabian garbage because their clan name is an arabian word.
-Sri Guru Gobind Singh ji


All Jatts need to get out of any religion and stop sacrificing their lives for these undeserving thugs who use them as a shield. What Jatts need to realize is that they need Jattism not sikhism. Jatts divided into different religions fighting with each other now are about 40,000,000. Had they remained only Jatts and were not sacrificing their lives to protect their own enemies, they were numbered today around 250,000,000 and had much greater political and economical presence.
* The above text has been added to the page, Many thanks for the suggestion. [[user:hari singh|Hari Singh]]<sup>[[User talk:Hari singh|talk]]</sup> 12:15, 1 November 2024 (MDT)

Latest revision as of 12:15, 1 November 2024

More surnames to be added

Sodhi, Basaati, Sain, Waddan, Sani, Duchha, Sainch, Balham, Gadhi, Bhatti, Jhangher, Buttar, Langrial/Langryal, Sinsinwar

The above names have been added to the page, Many thanks for the suggestion. Hari Singhtalk 12:15, 1 November 2024 (MDT)

To be added

  • The Scythians are sometimes also referred to as the Pontic Scythians, were an ancient Eastern Iranian equestrian nomadic people who had migrated from Central Asia to Afghanistan, Pakistan, North India, Ukraine and Southern Russia from approximately the 7th century BC until the 3rd century BC. They are different from the Aryan race. Jats are one of the Scythian clans.
  • The Jat people are subdivided into numerous clans, some of which overlap with the Ror, Arain, Saini Rajput, Ramgharia, Rajput, Khatri and other groups because of Clan exogamy and other possible reasons.
  • Jats were called Chandal in Past times, which meant they were out of the Varna System and that they were lower than the Shudras and were considered Untouchables.

But Guru Gobind Singh ji Changed all that by giving Sikhs Sovereignty.

"Inn Gareeb Sikhan Ko Dai Hoon Paatshaahi, Yeh Yaad Karrain Hamaree Guryaaill

Jinaki Jaat Gaut Kul Naahi, Sardaari Bhee Naahi Kadaahill

Unhi Kao Sardaar Banaoon, Tabbai Gobind Singh Naam Kahaoon||

Ab Mai Chandi Paath Padhwaoon, In Hi Te Turkan Marwaoon,

Lughu Chiddian Te Baaz Tudaoo Tabbai Gobind Singh Naam Kahaoon..."

"I bestow sovereignty to the humble Sikhs so as they may recount my Guruship..

Those who have no standing, no worth- no sardari.. I shall make them Sardars-only then will I refer myself as Gobind Singh..

I will make them recite the Chandi paath (chandi di var: Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji)..

I will make them destroy the Turks (invading Islamists)..

And have sparrows hunt down hawks- only then will I refer to myself as Gobind Singh."

  • The above text has been added to the page, Many thanks for the suggestion. Hari Singhtalk 12:15, 1 November 2024 (MDT)

List of Misals inaccurate

  • Ramgharia Misl is not a Jat Misl it's a Sikh Misl.
  • Phulkia and Sukerchakia Misls have Bhatti Rajput origins

-Sri Guru Gobind Singh ji

  • The above text has been added to the page, Many thanks for the suggestion. Hari Singhtalk 12:15, 1 November 2024 (MDT)