User talk:Stone

I don't know any other way to obtain this information than by lodging my inquiry as a signed-in member. That's why I signed up today. I have no idea if anyone reading this will know the answer to my question. Right here on this site is a translation of the Japji Sahib. Unfortunately, this site gives no indication as to the name or the publication date of the translation used. Please, does anyone here know? I've found a very similar but not identical translation in two places elsewhere on the web: at a wordpress page and at rajkaregakhalsa.net. But there's no indication on those pages as to the identity of the translator either. I assume both there and here is a translation that is in regular use, and probably has been for years(?). But I'm not knowledgeable enough in the field to know which translation(s). Please, does anyone here know which translations, and by any chance does anyone here know the dates of the translations as well? Thank you, Stone

R1 [Hari]

Hi User:Stone

Many thanks for your interest in Japji Sahib and this website. Most Sikhi websites now use the English translation by Sant Singh Khalsa, MD - see http://www.gurbanifiles.org/translations/index.htm. Read the background information about the Gurbani-CD here

However, due to popularity of Japji sahib, it has been translated by many writers and it is possible that the translation that you read on this website at various different pages will be slightly different from the "official" translations and prepare by the author of that page.

The article at SGGS translations gives fuller details of various popular "official" translations available in English. I believe the first translation in English was first completed in about 1958. The other translations followed soon afterwards.

I hope this helps, but if you need any further clarification, please do not hesitate to leave a further message.

Kind regards, Hari Singh^talk 23:02, 26 February 2017 (CST)

R2 [Stone]

Thanks very much. Please can you tell me if this edition --

https://www.amazon.com/Japji-Sahib-Translation-Transliteration-Scriptures-ebook/dp/B00KUUOUHY

-- uses the Sant Singh Kalsa translation? Oddly, there is no indication one way or the other on that Amazon page. Essentially, I need a regular book version, because I will be making traditional reference footnotes in a book I'm preparing. I'm guessing the Sant Singh Kalsa translation is the one used at this sikhiwiki page as well?

http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Learn_all_of_Japji_Sahib

Again, thanks,

Stone

R3 [Hari]

The Amazon version does not appear to be based on the "Sant Singh Khalsa" version.

The SikhiWiki version is my version and is dynamic as I intend to amend it as I get a better understanding of Gurbani.

If you wish to rely on a popular version than the PDF file at Gurbani files is the best to use - http://www.gurbanifiles.org/pocket_pc/Nitnem_GRE.pdf

I hope this helps. Best regards,

Hari Singh^talk 15:46, 2 March 2017 (CST)

R4 [Stone]

Thanks very much. This Nitnem pdf has the Khalsa translation of the Nanak Jupjee Saahib and the first three Nanak banis of the Sohilaa. Greatly appreciated.

Please, is there either a place on the net or some recent book edition that concentrates on the Khalsa translation of all the other Nanak writings, including the Asa_di_Var and the Sidh_Gosht, etc.?

Again, many thanks,

Stone [2 March 2017]

R5 [Hari]

Khalsa translations of Gurbani in WORD and PDF format:

You are luck as various translations by Khalsa can be found at this link: http://www.gurbanifiles.org/translations/index.htm

And also "special banis" at this link: http://www.gurbanifiles.org/special_bani/index.htm

Hope this helps you.

Kind regards, Hari Singh^talk 15:32, 10 March 2017 (CST)

R6 [Stone]

Thanks very much. I clearly recognize that at some point my "peeling the onion" on this will have to come to a halt, and I'm very grateful for the assistance you've given so far.

There are two resources that I freely admit I was hoping to find by now -- either in book form or on line. But I haven't yet. Perhaps they don't exist in English? Those two resources are a complete list in English translation of all the Guru Nanak texts in the Guru Granth Sahib, and an English translation of the Puratan Janam Sakhi, either translated from the compilation of Bhai Vir Singh, or from, if possible, an even more recent compilation reflecting the most recent Puratan scholarship.

In addition, as I understand, Rai Balwand and Satta Dum are also viewed by some as possibly even earlier in the chronological strata of biographical material related to Guru Nanak. Is that a consensus view, and have some of the materials generated in these two sources also been translated in a readily available English translation?

I appreciate that at some point I will have to draw the line and/or embark on further stricter inquiry strictly on my own. But I'm hoping these inquiries in this message may be the final set of inquiries I submit here.

Thanks very much for all your help.

Best,

Stone

[Hari] R7

Many thanks for your kind words. I will reply to you in more detail as soon as I can find the right answers to your queries.

Various websites exist with translations in English and I will spend a bit of time finding these for you in the next week or so.

I hope that will be acceptable.

Kind regards,

Hari Singh^talk 19:46, 14 March 2017 (CDT)

[Stone] Entirely acceptable. Thanks very much!

Looking forward to whatever you can uncover.

Kind regards,

Stone