Talk:Grist marg

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Dual Thought

Sorry administrators, by mistake i put following in article, but as no one is here allowed to edit these private articles of 3HO,

so i am just adding it to discussion page --- It is duality among Hindu Brothers over matter of being ascetic, not to marry and leave house, which seems to be against the deities whom they worship the most, To name of the few:

  • Shiva which is regarded among Shivaites was married twice and have two kids. (All Yogis Jangams, Sidhhas not following shiva in full)
  • Rama, which is regarded among Vaishnavas, Bairagis etc was married with Seeta and have two Kids.
  • Krishna has more then 16 Thousand wives and maintain physical relation with 8 and have childern too.
  • Vishnu, have consort called Laxmi.

Such great personalities chosen Grehsath Way of Life. --- (HarpreetSingh 03:06, 3 April 2012 (CDT))

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Veer ji, Sat Sri Akal

Please wake up to the real world. This article by me is no "private article" - I have no allegiance to anyone apart from the Guru. If you do not agree with any point then please put forward your views based on Gurbani and not based on other mortals or against/in-favour of other faiths. The definition of a Sikh is one who follows the spiritual instructions of the Guru. So please try and stick to this principle as far as possible when adding to any article.

It may give you satisfaction to make comments dragging in the 3HO wherever it suits you but please respect the views and opinions of other contributors on this website. If you want to win an argument, then put forward Gurmat views backed with the words of the Guru rather than making these cynical remarks - this is not a sign of a wise or confident person but a path followed by a person with a weakness.

Most of your comments above on Hindu deities have little relevance to Sikhi's principle of Grist. The conclusions drawn from the historical information are your opinions and I have nothing against that but to back your opinions that you consider to be important for Sikhs you must quote Gurbani - I do not see any of that in the text submitted here!

What does the inclusion of the Hindu deities' record provide for the Sikh? This answer will assist me in understanding the point that you may be making.

Many thanks and kind regards, Hari Singhtalk 21:16, 3 April 2012 (CDT)

For Sikh?

I am told that this website is whole related to 3HO(all mortals) and some guru nanak Nishkam Sewa members(all mortals) and i feel it is correct, what do you feel? Because if one view goes against them, the talk pages goes full.

You have no stand to go against Sri Chand article, they stopped you. You call yourself a big follower of Gurbani and you removed whole content from their based on HISTORY. on one side you say history is all contaminated and Gurbani not but why this double face? If maintain neuriality why not for all articles?

All above written was inline with Sikh principle. The Gurbani was first guide to Hindu/Muslims, do you know that? We are suppose to comment on correct fact. but i think you feel bad when the points are written that those great personalities too opted Gristi Marg. i don't know why? i haven't went against anything.

Well no problem. Keep your work on on base of few English gurbani translators(Mortal) and yourself(Mortal).

Well it is fun to take Panga with you, my elder brother :p , B Cool... Do you have Skype ID?


Well could i make one more article BAIRAG MARG , as gurbani supports that too :(

and ya i am not good writer of english language. I do not know exact word to be used for conversation(heavy words, jargonatical words :p), so it is no benifit for argument with you and this is not Gurmukhi website or do you think should i start writing gurmukhi over here?

can i make sub user pages to write my study on various topics of gurbani like Mutia Brother? as i don't know may be you delete those too, which does not support your thought of gurmat :( Every mortal should have chance at least on his user page. Thank you

(HarpreetSingh 02:21, 4 April 2012 (CDT))

Important Shalokh Of Kabir

ਕਬੀਰ ਜਉ ਗ੝ਰਿਹ੝ ਕਰਹਿ ਤ ਧਰਮ੝ ਕਰ੝ ਨਾਹੀ ਤ ਕਰ੝ ਬੈਰਾਗ੝ ॥ ਬੈਰਾਗੀ ਬੰਧਨ੝ ਕਰੈ ਤਾ ਕੋ ਬਡੋ ਅਭਾਗ੝ ॥੨੪੩॥ Kabeer, if you live the householder's life, then practice righteousness; otherwise, you might as well retire from the world. If someone renounces the world, and then gets involved in worldly entanglements, he shall suffer terrible misfortune. (243)

ਤ ਧਰਮ੝ ਕਰ੝ <--- Practice Dharma (BOLIYEY SACH DHARAM JHOOTH NA BOLIYEY) is most important in both cases whether, ਗ੝ਰਿਹ੝ ਕਰਹਿ or ਕਰ੝ ਬੈਰਾਗ੝,
but once a person said he have to become a ਬੈਰਾਗੀ, and again he want to come into ਬੰਧਨ੝ ਕਰੈ = ਗ੝ਰਿਹ੝ ਕਰਹਿ, then ਤਾ ਕੋ ਬਡੋ ਅਭਾਗ੝. When one renounces and again involve in same then suffer terrible misfortune. Many of Sants within Sikhism, does not marry and do ਬੰਧਨ੝ by making Deras and Chelas.

Best Example of ਜਉ ਗ੝ਰਿਹ੝ ਕਰਹਿ ਤ ਧਰਮ੝ ਕਰ੝

Most of Shalokhas and Shabads of Mahalla 9 put whole pressure to believe Money, Wife, Son, Family, Material as Lie.
The best example of ਜਉ ਗ੝ਰਿਹ੝ ਕਰਹਿ ਤ ਧਰਮ੝ ਕਰ੝, All Bhagats followed this path. This what we call
""GURMUKH MAAYA VICH UDASI""