Talk:Bachitar Natak

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Sikhs have till not decided about the full authenticity of Dasam Granth and its author. It contains many objectionable things which are against the basic principles of Sikhism.

user:sarbjeet_1313me: 25 Oct 2007

This composition contradicts Gurbani. I can show some pieces. If moderators join me here, we, as SikhiWiki team can decide to take a Anti Bachittar Natak stance or not. Who is with me? SunnySinghDoad 23:10, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Guys: Pls don't Show researches which only based on Criticism. Charitropakhyan have some researches which support that it's not that what criticizers think. Hari Singh Ji, Kindly do not support any researches by Anti party. You could continue the Anti DG discussions. Go to Nihungs to get real essence of this Dasam Bani. Thanks (Lucky 10:59, 18 December 2009 (UTC))

ਜਿਸਦਾ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੈ ਅਪਣਾ ਜੀਵਨ, ਉਹ ਪੰਥ ਦਾ ਕੀ ਸਵਾਰੇਗਾ
ਦਸਮ ਗ੝ਰੰਥ ਦੇ ਗਿਆਨ ਦੇ ਬਾਰੇ, ਦਰਸ਼ਨ ਰਾਗੀ ਕੀ ਗਿਆਨ ਉਚਾਰੇਗਾ
ਕਾਫਿਰ ਬਣਕੇ ਤ੝ਰਦੇ ਰਹਿੰਦੇ, ਦਰਸ਼ਨ ਵਰਗੇ ਲੋਕ ਬਥੇਰੇ
ਇਹਨਾ ਦੇ ਗਿਆਨ ਦੇ ਦੀਵੇ ਹੇਠਾਂ, ਮਿਲਣ ਗੇ ਬਹ੝ਤ ਹਨੇਰੇ
ਅੱਜ ਜ਼ਰੂਰਤ ਹੈ ਅਸੀਂ ਜਿਸ ਅਰਦਾਸ ਨੂੰ ਰੋਜ਼ਾਨਾ ਪਡ੝ਹਦੇ ਹਾਂ
ਉਸਦੇ ਅੱਖਰ ਅੱਖਰ ਨੂੰ ਸੱਚ ਕਰ ਦਈਝ
ਖਾਲਸਾ ਜੀ ਕੇ ਬੋਲ ਬਾਲੇ ਜ਼ਰੂਰ ਹੋਣਗੇ
- ਕਿਰਨਜੀਤ

harpreet, lets create a page and have debate; open to the world. you agree with me? if not, then atleast i must have permission to create an article Bachitar Natak (contra) SunnySinghDoad 16:14, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Sunny, I want, you to come to India if you have time. Go to Nihung Jathebandi at Tarna Dal, Khanna or Karnal. Seek for their interpretations. These people do not have electronic media to keep their interpretations. These people are not able to communicate through internet(youtube, Orkut, Facebook, Sikhiwiki). First collect interpretations of all these person. Put them online. Then Compare and contrast. now if you will put view of one party then you are loosing something.

Kal Charitropakhyan Ajj Bachitar Natak Kal Nitnem Banis Parson Bhai Bala Janmsakhi then BHAGAT BANi then Bhatt Bani then Gurbani, fir pavegi thand?

Hari Singh Ji, now it's upto you if you want such things online, one side you gave me huge lecture i want you to give the same to sunny. (Lucky 17:54, 18 December 2009 (UTC))

Harpreet dont make a scene here. Dirty stories STAY dirty stories, whatever Nihangs interpretations are. They have 3 granths as guru, I have only one. Bala Janamsakhi is fake as proven. Bachitar Natak and Charitropakhyan are fake aswell. BUT ANYTHING OF SGGS CANNOT BE DOUBTED, NOR BHAGAT NOR BHATT BANI !

Thand bohti na pava tu, bas siddi mere naal vichaar kar. Tu ja nihanga kol, jo katha karna kar leh katha.

Poet Ram/Shyam (writers of Dasam Granth) are not my Gurus. Are they yours? My Gurus wrote Bani with name Nanak, because they had same jot... SunnySinghDoad 20:23, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

You have only one Guru Guru Granth Sahib, Nihungs have one GUru Guru Granth Sahib and so Taksalis have. They call it Gurbani and Call Dasam Granth Dasam Bani not Gurbani. Bhai Bala Janamsakhi is full of Shingar Rass and is not proven. Bachitar Natak and Charitropakhyan are beautiful compositions of Guru Gobind SIngh. But the person who want to doubt he could doubt on Guru Granth Sahib's bani too....

Tere nal ki vichar kara, na tu aya Giani Sant Singh Maskeen te na mai vada Bhai Kahn singh nabha. Mai tan janda han nihunga kol, tu ja darshan singh kol. Sikh lai ohde ton sikhi virsa Canada ch beh ke.

The Bani is Of Guru Gobind Singh. Who is Ram? Lord Ramchandra. who is Shyam? Lord Krishna. First Tell me about Ram and Shyam,,,,lagda Hinduan ch jyada vichrde tusi.

My Gurus not only wrote Bani with name nanak

Well well well
Jis hisaab nal tusi javab ditta ohde nal eh gal v sahmne aayi hai that Bhagat Bani is not under name Nanak, Neither Bhatt Bani nor Gursikh Bani,,,,,,so it means these are not Banis we should not bow before these.

Let's keep Dasam Granth aside.
Bhagat Bani te pehlan discussion karde haan.
Fir Bhatt Bani te.
Fir Gursikh Bani te. then we shift to Dasam OK???? (Lucky 11:17, 19 December 2009 (UTC))

You prove that you don't have knowledge to discuss with me. Can't you read? ALL GURU'S THAT WROTE BANI, WROTE UNDER NAME OF NANAK. SINCE WHEN ARE BHAGATS AND BHATTS YOUR GURUS? Darshan Singh is better than the Nihangs who love to get high on cannabis. Bala Janamsakhi is fake, go on Sikhiwiki article and read it... Charitropakhyan are 404 dirty stories thats it. BAchittar Natak is a big myth and not by Guru Ji. Sikhi Virsa is not learnt by drinking bhang with Nihangs. Most Nihangs have 3 Gurus: Aad Guru Darbaar, DAsam Guru Darbaar and Sarbloh Guru Darbaar. Be ashamed, you are in Punjab and don't know that, I'm here in so called canada (i'm in Belgium) and I know that. Sikhi virsa hun kisnu ni pata? Bolda bohat aa, Poet Raam and Shyam wrote your Dasam Granth. SunnySinghDoad 11:47, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Sunny Bai: i already told you i am not Kahn Singh Nabha but you are Giani Sant Singh Maskeen. You have much much Knowledge Brahmgyani Sunny Singh dawood.....Tuhanu Parnaam hai Gyani Ji. o Gyani ji ik gall dasso yaar.

Baki Gal hai Adi Guru Darbar d it means the Gurus before guru gobind ji whose hyms are in guru granth sahib is called ad guru darbar. Dasam Bani means Dasam Guru, guru gobind singh's bani so dasam guru darbar. But they call Guru Granth Sahib Gurbani. Your foe baba Nihal singh harian belan read Guru Granth sahib and call it gurbani. in their tikana harian belan Guru Granth sAHIB IS PARKASHMAAN.

chalo chaddo ehnu,

Well Aao Bhagat Bani discuss kariye. Hun Darr gaye??? Knowledge da bahana na maro discuss karo Bhagat bani, click postBhagat Bani, go to discussion section (Lucky 12:12, 19 December 2009 (UTC))

Harpreet, tera bohat vadda munh hai. Do you lack some grey cells? I said I believe in SGGS fully, I don't question a bit of it. Teinu pashtun vich samjhava? Come to Bachitar Natak. Tu dar gea? Bohta boli da ni hunda. I'm sure menu jina vi gyan haiga, teinu Bachitar Natak ate Dasam Granth di asliat dassan vaaste. Come lets discuss it right here, okay? I got my Guru, Shabad guru to support my claims.

Bohta jhooth ni bolida, most Nihangs have 3 granths parkash AT EQUAL LEVEL, so don't teach me. SunnySinghDoad 16:50, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Sunny: Vadde Veer koi na kahla nahi payida.

You are rightt absolutly right. Bachitar Natak de jo views ne oh tere ne. But as you have seen i haven't study a bit of it, so moorakh naal joojhan da ki fayda right?

As you are Gyani, not gyani, you are Brahmgyani. I want you to come to Bhagat Bani. Tu dar gea?

Lets see your fundas on Bhagat Bani. At least tusi mainu Guide karunge. I want spiritual knowledge from a great person like you who can declare whole granth false. It means you must have a lot of knowledge. Please Please great sunny singh ji mainu thodi knowledge davo.

i can't discuss bachitar natak, have no knowledge. but i will not say it false as gurmukhs believe in it. i believe in gurmukhs. I want to discuss Bhagat bani with you, The Greatest of great gurmukh. Ao mil ke Bhagat bani d gal kariye......and pls mana na karna, nahi ta kehna pavega Tu dar gea? (Lucky 07:54, 22 December 2009 (UTC))

Haha tu dar gea only works with persons who have egoes. I have discarded my ego, unlike you. I don't care. Yes I'm scared, if THATS WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY. I am not interested in discussing Bhagat Bani as of now, but I want to eradicate DG from our panth, which will happen very soon.

Bachittar Natak worships Mahakaal who has 4 arms, tu vi mahakaal nu pooj la


What do you want to discuss about Bhagat Bani?

SunnySinghDoad 12:49, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Sunny i worship mahakaal, for me mahakaal is the kaal of kaal i.e lord. now four arms da gurmat concept nahi pta. i will ask from some gurmukh te tuhade nal share karanga.

baki gal eradicate d hai, kaka zor laga lai jinna laga sakda, jinna zor hai sab laga le. you will not able to do so. it's challenge. you will gonna die. dasam granth ne fir uthe khada rehna.

Yes you broke my ego(i have no knowledge), thanks for that. But remember Many Many Many Gurmukhs are with this granth because they understand the essence of this granth and you would never able to. So little bro try your best to eradicate it.

Do you study Dasam Granth on your daily basis or you are just showing other authors work? Try to give your views studying it yourself.

leave it you are not interesred in bhagat bani, na sahi. will find some gurmukh for interpretation. thanx yar, agg gholi chal, zehar pyala peen da zigra guru sahib ne ditta. (Lucky 19:37, 24 December 2009 (UTC))

I don't have time for your useless talk. Fateh. SunnySinghDoad 20:44, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
  • toon bada chann chaad reha. tera article pd ke teri knowledge v pta lagdi brahmgyani machar (Lucky 08:01, 25 December 2009 (UTC))