Talk:Guru Nanak in Mecca
Also might i add. That the Kaaba does not move. This is just a made up fairytale!
And many of the things stated in this article is 100% FALSE!
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Isn't this proof that Guru Nanak was a Muslim?
I mean ONLY Muslims are alowed in the city of Mecca!http://islam.about.com/od/hajj/f/mecca.htm
So if Guru Nanak was NOT a muslim. Then how could he enter the city of Mecca?
So then how did Richard Burton get in? The Qur'an says none other than Muslims should be allowed in a Masjid, yet the Rasul had non-believers in his own at Madina. Maybe this is because Uthman (a later Khalif) saw that many were adding their own writing to the Qur'an, that he edited it into its final form leaving out some writing he considered spurious and possibly adding some not dictated by the Prophet? Hence the contradicting verses?
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Clarification of edit: Hajjis carrying Koran under their arms
Hajjis do not typically carry a Koran under their arms.
Hajjis carrying the Koran under their arms
Interesting point! - I do not have any personal experience about this but - I wonder if in those days, 500 years ago, the Hajjis did carry the Koran with them so that they could recite it whenever required. Remember that they did not have huge public address (PA) system then. I will check more on this fact before we can really determine for sure -but I assume that you have checked this matter with someone who does have real experience of being a hajji. --Hari Singh 18:02, 2 July 2006 (Central Daylight Time)
The ihram (the two unsewn pieces of cloth) forces a pilgrim to abandon his personal, national and racial characteristics making all equal. However accommodations quickly put an end to this 'equality'. A 'black' African complained in the film a few years ago of how he was not allowed to sleep in anything but the tent assigned for Blacks as he had thought he would be allowed to mix with anyone.
The ihram is uncomfortable, especially since men are not allowed to wear underwear or use perfumed soap, the fear of exposing ones privates is a worry, (a practice probably begun to expose anyone not circumcised) who would have been killed most likely, in the past if not today. Richard Burton , not the actor had himself circumcised (very, very painful as an adult) to avoid being found out in this way-he also writes of how he darkened his skin. Muslims, Hindus and even Sikhs during the violent killing sprees of Partition used this as a sort of physical shibboleth to expose those who sought to disguise themselves. Because of the Turban Sikhs were readily identified.
Most carry a bag like the Hari Krishnas to keep their valuables and their Koran in, photos (al Jazeera did a daily report this last year) show many reading from the Qur'an during Hajj. Carrying the Qur'an under a sweaty armpit (the right shoulder is exposed) would be seen as disrespectful. Scholars think that the Imran has been in use since before the days of Mohamet, as there was a Hajj before the Rasul and as Hindu idols were also among those in the Ka'aba in those days the Hindu traders most likely participated in the mela at the time.
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Guru did dress up like a Muslim but in book were not the kuranic verses but allagedly Gurbani. Some are in Guru Granth Sahib ji but some like Nasihat Nammah is not in there. (How does anyone know how Guru Nanak dressed in Makkah - did he ever describe the ihram?
Certainly Surah 10:4 (a favorite surah of the Mughals) which says to treat unbelievers (anyone not a Muslim) to a bath in boiling water, a favorite torture used on several Historic Sikhs, is unique to the Quran.
Huzuria
This is considered a title of honor similar to "Huzuria", a suffix one who has been granted the citizenship of Sri Hazur Sahib may add to his or her name - I agree with Kaur-1 - 'Huzuria' is an unknown title; I am not even sure it exists. It seem unnecessary when we are talking about Mecca! It appears like "one-upmanship" which is not required here nor does it make the concept any easier to understand. Well spotted Kaur-1! Hari Singhtalk 22:59, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
