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Sikhs have till not decided about the full authenticity of Dasam Granth and its author. It contains many objectionable things which are against the basic principles of Sikhism.

user:sarbjeet_1313me: 25 Oct 2007

This composition contradicts Gurbani. I can show some pieces. If moderators join me here, we, as SikhiWiki team can decide to take a Anti Bachittar Natak stance or not. Who is with me? SunnySinghDoad 23:10, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Guys: Pls don't Show researches which only based on Criticism. Charitropakhyan have some researches which support that it's not that what criticizers think. Hari Singh Ji, Kindly do not support any researches by Anti party. You could continue the Anti DG discussions. Go to Nihungs to get real essence of this Dasam Bani. Thanks (Lucky 10:59, 18 December 2009 (UTC))

ਜਿਸਦਾ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੈ ਅਪਣਾ ਜੀਵਨ, ਉਹ ਪੰਥ ਦਾ ਕੀ ਸਵਾਰੇਗਾ
ਦਸਮ ਗ੝ਰੰਥ ਦੇ ਗਿਆਨ ਦੇ ਬਾਰੇ, ਦਰਸ਼ਨ ਰਾਗੀ ਕੀ ਗਿਆਨ ਉਚਾਰੇਗਾ
ਕਾਫਿਰ ਬਣਕੇ ਤ੝ਰਦੇ ਰਹਿੰਦੇ, ਦਰਸ਼ਨ ਵਰਗੇ ਲੋਕ ਬਥੇਰੇ
ਇਹਨਾ ਦੇ ਗਿਆਨ ਦੇ ਦੀਵੇ ਹੇਠਾਂ, ਮਿਲਣ ਗੇ ਬਹ੝ਤ ਹਨੇਰੇ
ਅੱਜ ਜ਼ਰੂਰਤ ਹੈ ਅਸੀਂ ਜਿਸ ਅਰਦਾਸ ਨੂੰ ਰੋਜ਼ਾਨਾ ਪਡ੝ਹਦੇ ਹਾਂ
ਉਸਦੇ ਅੱਖਰ ਅੱਖਰ ਨੂੰ ਸੱਚ ਕਰ ਦਈਝ
ਖਾਲਸਾ ਜੀ ਕੇ ਬੋਲ ਬਾਲੇ ਜ਼ਰੂਰ ਹੋਣਗੇ
- ਕਿਰਨਜੀਤ

harpreet, lets create a page and have debate; open to the world. you agree with me? if not, then atleast i must have permission to create an article Bachitar Natak (contra) SunnySinghDoad 16:14, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Sunny, I want, you to come to India if you have time. Go to Nihung Jathebandi at Tarna Dal, Khanna or Karnal. Seek for their interpretations. These people do not have electronic media to keep their interpretations. These people are not able to communicate through internet(youtube, Orkut, Facebook, Sikhiwiki). First collect interpretations of all these person. Put them online. Then Compare and contrast. now if you will put view of one party then you are loosing something.

Kal Charitropakhyan Ajj Bachitar Natak Kal Nitnem Banis Parson Bhai Bala Janmsakhi then BHAGAT BANi then Bhatt Bani then Gurbani, fir pavegi thand?

Hari Singh Ji, now it's upto you if you want such things online, one side you gave me huge lecture i want you to give the same to sunny. (Lucky 17:54, 18 December 2009 (UTC))

Harpreet dont make a scene here. Dirty stories STAY dirty stories, whatever Nihangs interpretations are. They have 3 granths as guru, I have only one. Bala Janamsakhi is fake as proven. Bachitar Natak and Charitropakhyan are fake aswell. BUT ANYTHING OF SGGS CANNOT BE DOUBTED, NOR BHAGAT NOR BHATT BANI !

Thand bohti na pava tu, bas siddi mere naal vichaar kar. Tu ja nihanga kol, jo katha karna kar leh katha.

Poet Ram/Shyam (writers of Dasam Granth) are not my Gurus. Are they yours? My Gurus wrote Bani with name Nanak, because they had same jot... SunnySinghDoad 20:23, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Sunny:
You have only one Guru Guru Granth Sahib, Nihungs have one GUru Guru Granth Sahib and so Taksalis have. They call it Gurbani and Call Dasam Granth Dasam Bani not Gurbani. Bhai Bala Janamsakhi is full of Shingar Rass and is not proven. Bachitar Natak and Charitropakhyan are beautiful compositions of Guru Gobind SIngh. But the person who want to doubt he could doubt on Guru Granth Sahib's bani too....

Tere nal ki vichar kara, na tu aya Giani Sant Singh Maskeen te na mai vada Bhai Kahn singh nabha. Mai tan janda han nihunga kol, tu ja darshan singh kol. Sikh lai ohde ton sikhi virsa Canada ch beh ke.

The Bani is Of Guru Gobind Singh. Who is Ram? Lord Ramchandra. who is Shyam? Lord Krishna. First Tell me about Ram and Shyam,,,,lagda Hinduan ch jyada vichrde tusi.

My Gurus not only wrote Bani with name nanak

Well well well
Jis hisaab nal tusi javab ditta ohde nal eh gal v sahmne aayi hai that Bhagat Bani is not under name Nanak, Neither Bhatt Bani nor Gursikh Bani,,,,,,so it means these are not Banis we should not bow before these.

Let's keep Dasam Granth aside.
Bhagat Bani te pehlan discussion karde haan.
Fir Bhatt Bani te.
Fir Gursikh Bani te. then we shift to Dasam OK???? (Lucky 11:17, 19 December 2009 (UTC))

You prove that you don't have knowledge to discuss with me. Can't you read? ALL GURU'S THAT WROTE BANI, WROTE UNDER NAME OF NANAK. SINCE WHEN ARE BHAGATS AND BHATTS YOUR GURUS? Darshan Singh is better than the Nihangs who love to get high on cannabis. Bala Janamsakhi is fake, go on Sikhiwiki article and read it... Charitropakhyan are 404 dirty stories thats it. BAchittar Natak is a big myth and not by Guru Ji. Sikhi Virsa is not learnt by drinking bhang with Nihangs. Most Nihangs have 3 Gurus: Aad Guru Darbaar, DAsam Guru Darbaar and Sarbloh Guru Darbaar. Be ashamed, you are in Punjab and don't know that, I'm here in so called canada (i'm in Belgium) and I know that. Sikhi virsa hun kisnu ni pata? SunnySinghDoad 11:47, 19 December 2009 (UTC)