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'''Ram''' is one which is ''All pervading in living beings''.  
         
 
'''Ram''' is one which is ''all prevading in living beings''. It is Inner Soul of person which is also called Paratama. Ram etymologically means which is present in all. The positive part of person is attributed as ram and negative part of person is attributed as Krisna or shyam.  
* Rama is Inner Soul of person; also called Paratama or Antar Aatma.  
                 
* It should not be confused with Hindu version of King Ramachandra of Ayodhya.
Person have to experiance their inner soul i.e ram first. The inner soul is one which have direct          contact with god. One person leave his black(Mann) attribute and work acc. to inner soul. then he will able to understand ram.
* Etymologically, Rama means which is present in all living beings.  
                 
* The positive and enlightened consciousnesses of a soul is attributed as Ram; where as Negative attentions and soul in delusion is called Shyama. Shyama also means Black or Krishna. In Gurmat, Raam and Krishna are two aspects of Soul.
When person will got knowledge of Gurbani he will experiance his inner soul and after experiancing inner soul with bless of god he will able to listen DHUR KI BANi which is Hukam(Command) of god.  
* Gurbani is story of the Spiritual Rama also called ''Raja Raam Ki Kahani''.
                 
* Rama is not Supreme in Gurbani; but Sub-Supreme without which one could not attain Supreme (Hukam).
There are many words which comes for Ram in gurbani incl Har(i), Prabh(Not Prabhu), Satgur(Not Satguru), Paratma(not paramatma) etc. One have to study gurbani in deep to understand different between these terminologies.
* One have to experience their inner soul i.e Ram first. Once get mingle with inner soul; it gets connected to Shabad. One person leave his black part(Mann) attribute and work acc. to inner soul. then he will able to understand Ram.
                 
* There are other qualitative Synonyms of Rama in Gurbani like Har(i), Prabh, Satgur, Paratma etc.
Ram is not present in Non Living things like Stones, Table, Wash basin, or computer.
==Ram vs. King Ramchandra of Ayodhya== 
   
The description in Gurmat is totally against the Hindu's version of Ram.
 
In Hindu chronicle, Rama was a king of Ayodhya, who was thrown out of kingdom then some person called Ravana stole his wife; Sita and he remain tangle in bringing her back. When he achieved her, he then suspect her piousness, and made Sita sit on fire to prove his chastity.  After listening to a washer man that he had throw his pregnant wife out of kingdom. She gave birth to two sons in house of Valmiki named Lav and Kush. Those found their father again and became his successor. King Ramchandra did suicide in Sarayu river. In Dasam Granth, Guru Gobind Singh narrates history of King Ramachandra of Ayodhya.
 
In Gurmat, Rama is not physical entity but Spiritual entity. The difference is cleared in Sikh texts where prevalent King Ramachandra is written as "Tumra Raam" and the Raam that prevails in all is written as "Hamara Ram".


Ram is also called Chand(Moon) because Ram does not have it's own light it have light of God which is also attributed as Suraj(Sun). Ram inner soul speaks of God.
                 
'''Ram vs. King Ramchandra'''
         
The description in Gurmat is totally against Hindu's version of ramchandra.He was some king of ayodhya, who was thrown out of kingdom then some person called ravna stole his wife andh e remain tangle in bringing her back. when he acheived her, he then suspect her piousness, sita sit in fire then after listening to a washerman he throwed his wife out, she gave birth to lav and kush who again find their father and after that King Ramchandra sucided in Sarayu river and so his brothers and mothers
                 
The truth behing king ramchandra is better explained by Guru Gobind SIngh in Ram Avtar part of dasam granth, which helps sikh to believe that King Ramchandra is not ram of gurmat. So that people who had fear of these mythological characters will leave the fear and follow TRUE ram.
                 
                 
Namdev used word to priest "Tumara Ram", means description of yours and for gurmat raam guru gobind singh and other devotees used word HAMARA RAM(Ram of gurmat vision) So one should not confuse ram with ram of hindu dharma.


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Latest revision as of 16:11, 28 April 2023

Ram is one which is All pervading in living beings.

  • Rama is Inner Soul of person; also called Paratama or Antar Aatma.
  • It should not be confused with Hindu version of King Ramachandra of Ayodhya.
  • Etymologically, Rama means which is present in all living beings.
  • The positive and enlightened consciousnesses of a soul is attributed as Ram; where as Negative attentions and soul in delusion is called Shyama. Shyama also means Black or Krishna. In Gurmat, Raam and Krishna are two aspects of Soul.
  • Gurbani is story of the Spiritual Rama also called Raja Raam Ki Kahani.
  • Rama is not Supreme in Gurbani; but Sub-Supreme without which one could not attain Supreme (Hukam).
  • One have to experience their inner soul i.e Ram first. Once get mingle with inner soul; it gets connected to Shabad. One person leave his black part(Mann) attribute and work acc. to inner soul. then he will able to understand Ram.
  • There are other qualitative Synonyms of Rama in Gurbani like Har(i), Prabh, Satgur, Paratma etc.

Ram vs. King Ramchandra of Ayodhya

The description in Gurmat is totally against the Hindu's version of Ram.

In Hindu chronicle, Rama was a king of Ayodhya, who was thrown out of kingdom then some person called Ravana stole his wife; Sita and he remain tangle in bringing her back. When he achieved her, he then suspect her piousness, and made Sita sit on fire to prove his chastity. After listening to a washer man that he had throw his pregnant wife out of kingdom. She gave birth to two sons in house of Valmiki named Lav and Kush. Those found their father again and became his successor. King Ramchandra did suicide in Sarayu river. In Dasam Granth, Guru Gobind Singh narrates history of King Ramachandra of Ayodhya.

In Gurmat, Rama is not physical entity but Spiritual entity. The difference is cleared in Sikh texts where prevalent King Ramachandra is written as "Tumra Raam" and the Raam that prevails in all is written as "Hamara Ram".


Terminology of Brahmgyan

♣♣ Ram ♣♣ Seeta ♣♣ Laxman ♣♣ Krisna ♣♣ Gopi ♣♣ Hanuvant ♣♣ Lanka ♣♣ Ravana ♣♣ Gopal ♣♣ Gobinda ♣♣ Keshva ♣♣ Kanha ♣♣ Durga ♣♣ Chandi ♣♣ Kalika ♣♣ Mahakaal ♣♣ Siv ♣♣ Brahma ♣♣ Bisan ♣♣ Gorakh ♣♣ Janak ♣♣ Ram Leela ♣♣ Krisna Leela ♣♣ Shakti ♣♣ Noor ♣♣ Allah ♣♣ Vaheguru ♣♣ Oankar ♣♣ Murari ♣♣ Laal ♣♣ Hari ♣♣ Prabh ♣♣ Prabhu ♣♣ Gurdev ♣♣ Gur ♣♣ Satgur ♣♣ Satguru ♣♣ Guru ♣♣ Narad ♣♣ Mahishasura ♣♣ Rakatbeej ♣♣ Shumb Nishumb ♣♣ Chand Mund ♣♣ Madhu Keetab ♣♣ Sursari ♣♣