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'''Photos, Pictures, Sceneries or Statues of the 10 Human Gurus''' are not accepted within Sikhi and Sikhi  fully  rejects the use of them.


Guru Ji Himself declares and affirms upon the issue through Gurbani as:<br>
'''gur kaa sabad raakh man maahi.'''
* ''"Meditate on the image of the Guru within your mind; let your mind accept the Word of the Guru's Shabad (Gurbani teachings) and His Mantra (advice & guidance). Enshrine the Guru's feet within your heart. Bow in humility forever before the Guru, the Supreme Lord God."                                    '' (Tr. fr. SGGS page 864)
:Keep the Word of the Guru's Shabad in your mind.
* ''"Enshrine the Guru's Feet in your heart. Meditate on Him and cross over the ocean of fire"'' (Tr. fr. SGGS Page 192)


And hence with these words and passages [[Sikhism]] apparently justifies that Sikhism won't allow making or worshiping of any sort of Photos, Pictures, Statues, Scenes of the ten Nanaks. To a man each of the Dasam Nanaks never allowed any artist or engraver of the time, to engrave, paint or sculpt their physical or Human rup (form).
'''naam simar chintaa sabh jaahi. ||1||'''
:Meditating in remembrance on the Naam, the Name of the Lord, all anxiety is removed. ||1|| (SGGS page 864)


The advent of Photography had not been invented until many years after their time on earth. Any of the paintings, or drawings in homes and Sikh establishments around Waheguru's world are images brought forth from the minds of artists who are naturally ignorant of the real physical appearence of any Sikh Guru and the formless One that men around the world have rendered form too. Of course those minds are minds that are part of God, created by God.
gur kay charan ridai ur Dhaar.
Enshrine the Guru's Feet in your heart.


This painting even sculpting of our Gurus, my sister's freind give her a statue of [[Guru Nanak Dev]] jee (Chinese made) is here in India probably a hold over from [[Hindu]]ism, but fundamentally I beleive that this all is contrary to the [[Sikh way of life]] or Sikh faith.
agan saagar jap utreh paar. ||2||
Meditate on Him and cross over the ocean of fire. ||2|| (SGGS Page 192)
 
None of the Sikh Gurus allowed any artist of the time to draw, paint or sculpt them, hence there are no drawings, paintings or sculptures that could accurately depict their ''rup'' (form).
 
Photography was not invented until many years after their time on earth. The many paintings and drawings in homes and Sikh establishments around the world are images from the minds of artists; no one  has any idea of what any Sikh Gurus looked like.
 
Guru Gobind Singh Ji passed the Guruship on to the Guru Granth Sahib as a guide for all Sikhs. Does the Granth have anything to say about Images or Sculpture?
 
Please add comments, ideas, ect to the talk  page.


We have seen many Photographs/potraits showing the Guru's and their history. Today I have seen a picture of [[Mata Gujri]], [[Sahibzada Zorawar Singh]] and [[Sahibzada Fateh Singh]]. I know that these are a visual artist's poetic imagination. I thought of  making a photograph/illustration of [[Guru Har Rai]] And [[Bhai Kuram]] Singh related to [[Gurudwara Amb Sahib]] through my imagination (I know i am not that much pure to imagine) then the thought came to my mind—am I doing the right thing?


Well, thinking that a photographs may also be used as an idol by someone, i remembered that neither gurus nor their followers at that time made images of of them. They wrote  bani and teach the bani. If one has an image of Guru Nanak  and  prays before it does it make you an addict to that photograph are you now worshiping a murti. I mean if you get attached to it——attachment is one of our five evils.


Same thing strikes in my mind when My sister freind's give her statue of [[Guru Nanak Dev]] jee(Chinese made) as gurus rejected this concepts and blady people are making their statues. So it comes in my mind '''Na aapan Nind sakiyey, Na apnaoon nu dil kardaa'''


One more concept arises, In many [[Gurdwara]]s the idols of gurus which they left like Chola Saab, any ornamental etc also worshipped they show them like these are god well again i think idol worship concept begins. SGPC recently announced to remove all photos from SGPC linked gurdwaras and all other gurdwaras. But after this announcement there are many gurdwaras which have guru's pictures hanging on the wall and people use to bow before them.


  Kou Butan Ko pujat hai
  Kou Butan Ko pujat hai
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Guru has no form he is formless so remove all pictures
Guru has no form he is formless so remove all pictures
Namastan Aroopay
Namastan Aroopay


Remove these pictures and place gurbani in place of it, before you eyes. When you wake up in morning your eyes will face gurbani first you will get confidence and start the day before bowing to that gurbani instead of photos.
Remove these pictures and place gurbani in place of it, before you eyes. When you wake up in morning your eyes will face gurbani first you will get confidence and start the day before bowing to that gurbani instead of photos.


==Ik gal note kareo jae==
Baani try karo normal copy tae naa likho normal page te gurbaani jae likh dindae ho te oh wee guru granth sahib daa ik panna ban jaandaa hai tae ohee panna radhee wale nu fara dindae ho yaa dustbin ch sut dindae ho. So dont write gurbani on normal copy or on a page jidi tusee care he nahin karr sakdde.
Socho keho jehaa lagoo jad granth mahjaraj dee kuj lines paani ch parwah rahe hovo, agg laa kae sanskar kar rahe hovo, lagdaa nahin jiven koi wichar gea hundaa.
Granth sahib maharaaj wee apnaa pitaa waa. jiven odee care karde ho iven ode angan dee wee care karo.
jehri calender etc. te gurus dee photos banaiaan nae these are not gurmukhs nature. Gurmukh kade guru de pic nahin banavegaa. Oh apnae man ch guru dee image banawegaa, rabb de image banavegaa
Main guru nanak dee murtee wekhi mainu inna gussa chareaa, oh guru nanak dee murtee bnahin hai oh bramha dee murtee hovegee. Main rabb nu murtee dae roop ch nahin dekh sakdaa. Rabb mere ch hai tuade, but us noo aapan pachaan nahin sakde taanhee 5 evils ghar kar jaandae nae. Rabb dee moorat  tusee ho man tae kaboo paa lave, aapan fir tuanoo poojangae tuade through
rabb de praptee karan gae. Lagdaa main jeyaada likh rehaa


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Revision as of 15:12, 29 July 2010

gur kaa sabad raakh man maahi.

Keep the Word of the Guru's Shabad in your mind.

naam simar chintaa sabh jaahi. ||1||

Meditating in remembrance on the Naam, the Name of the Lord, all anxiety is removed. ||1|| (SGGS page 864)

gur kay charan ridai ur Dhaar. Enshrine the Guru's Feet in your heart.

agan saagar jap utreh paar. ||2|| Meditate on Him and cross over the ocean of fire. ||2|| (SGGS Page 192)

None of the Sikh Gurus allowed any artist of the time to draw, paint or sculpt them, hence there are no drawings, paintings or sculptures that could accurately depict their rup (form).

Photography was not invented until many years after their time on earth. The many paintings and drawings in homes and Sikh establishments around the world are images from the minds of artists; no one has any idea of what any Sikh Gurus looked like.

Guru Gobind Singh Ji passed the Guruship on to the Guru Granth Sahib as a guide for all Sikhs. Does the Granth have anything to say about Images or Sculpture?

Please add comments, ideas, ect to the talk page.



Kou Butan Ko pujat hai
Tavparsad Savaiya(patshahi 10)
Tirath naaveh archaa poojaa agar vaas behkaar
Guru Nanak Dev
Bhoganhaaray bhogi-aa is moorat kay mukh chhaar
Kabir
Aap hee poojaaree aap hee dayvaa
Guru Nanak Dev
Tora-o na paatee pooja-o na dayvaa
Kabir

Guru has no form he is formless so remove all pictures Namastan Aroopay

Remove these pictures and place gurbani in place of it, before you eyes. When you wake up in morning your eyes will face gurbani first you will get confidence and start the day before bowing to that gurbani instead of photos.