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PHOTOS, PICTURES, SCENERIES OR STATUES OF THE GURU PERSONALITIES are not accepted within Sikhism and Sikhism fully rejects these:
'''Photos, Pictures, Sceneries or Statues of the Guru Personalities''' are not accepted within Sikhism and Sikhism fully rejects these:


Guru Ji Himself declares and affirms upon the issue through Gurbani as........
Guru Ji Himself declares and affirms upon the issue through Gurbani as:<br>
* ''"Meditate on the image of the Guru within your mind; let your mind accept the Word of the Guru's Shabad (Gurbani teachings) and His Mantra (advice & guidance). Enshrine the Guru's feet within your heart. Bow in humility forever before the Guru, the Supreme Lord God"                                    '' (Tr. fr. SGGS page 864)
* ''"Enshrine the Guru's Feet in your heart. Meditate on Him and cross over the ocean of fire"'' (Tr. fr. SGGS Page 192)


"Meditate on the image of the Guru within your mind; let your mind accept the Word of the Guru's Shabad (Gurbani teachings) and His Mantra (advice & guidance). Enshrine the Guru's feet within your heart. Bow in humility forever before the Guru, the Supreme Lord God"                                   
And hence [[Sikhism]] apparently justifies that Sikhism won't allow making or worshiping in any sort of Photos, Pictures. Statues, Sceneries of GURU personalities. All the ten GURU personalities never allowed any artist or engraver of the time, to carve their paintings. The camera system of Photography had not been invented & devolved till that period of history, as on today. All sorts of Guru's paintings, pictures or poses images found any where in the world are imaginary & mind made issue of the ignorant artists. This all has been done under Brahmnini and all above [[Hindu]]ism faith but fundamentally it is that this all is contrary to the [[Sikh way of life]] or Sikh faith.
(Tr. fr. SGGS page 864)


"Enshrine the Guru's Feet in your heart. Meditate on Him and cross over the ocean of fire"                                                                                   
We have seen many Photographs/potraits showing guru's Their history. like today i have seen a picture of [[Mata Gujri]] & [[Sahibzada Zorawar Singh]] & [[Sahibzada Fateh Singh]]. I know that is poet's imagination . I was Making Photograph Of [[Guru Har Rai]] And [[Bhai Kuram]] Singh related to [[Gurudwara Amb Sahib]] through my imagination(I know i am not that much pure to imagine) at that time a thing strikes in my mind that am i doing rite thing? Well, saying about photographs these also acts as idol, i thought. Neither gurus nor their followers at that time made their pictures. They wrote  bani and teach the bani. Making photos and started pray before it makes you addict to that photograph. I mean you got attach to it and attachment is one of our five evils.
(Tr. fr. SGGS Page 192)


And hence Sikhism apparently justifies that Sikhism won't allow making or worshiping in any sort of Photos, Pictures. Statues, Sceneries of GURU personalities. All the ten GURU personalities never allowed any artist or engraver of the time, to carve their paintings. The camera system of Photography had not been invented & devolved till that period of history, as on today. All sorts of Guru's paintings, pictures or poses images found any where in the world. are imaginary & mind made issue of the ignorant artists. This all has been done under Brahmninism and all above Hinduism faith but fundamntally it is that this all is contrary to the Sikh way of life or Sikh faith.
Same thing strikes in my mind when My sister freind's give her statue of [[Guru Nanak Dev]] jee(Chinese made) as gurus rejected this concepts and blady people are making their statues. So it comes in my mind '''Na aapan Nind sakiyey, Na apnaoon nu dil kardaa'''
 
We have seen many Photographs/potraits showing guru's Their history. like today i have seen pic of [[Mata Gujri]] & [[Sahibzada Zorawar Singh]] & [[Sahibzada Fateh Singh]]. I know that is poet's imagination . I was Making Photograph Of [[Guru Har Rai]] And [[Bhai Kuram]] Singh related to [[Gurudwara Amb Sahib]] through my imagination(I know i am not that much pure to imagine) at that time a thing strikes in my mind that am i doing rite thing? Did our gurus allowed to make these pics? Well, saying about photographs these also acts as idol, i thought. Neither gurus nor their predessers at that time made their pics. they wrote their bani teach their bani.
 
Same thing strikes in my mind when My sister freind's give her statue of [[Guru Nanak Dev]] jee as gurus rejected this concepts and blady people are making their statues. '''Na aapan Nind sakiyey, Na apnaoon nu dil kardaa'''
 
One more concept arise, In many gurudwaras the idols of gurus which they left like Chola Saab, any ornamental etc also worshipped they show them like these are god well again i think idol worship concept begins


One more concept arise, In many [[Gurdwara]]s the idols of gurus which they left like Chola Saab, any ornamental etc also worshipped they show them like these are god well again i think idol worship concept begins. SGPC recently announced to remove all photos from SGPC linked gurdwaras and all other gurdwaras. But after this announce ment there are many gurdwaras which have guru's pictures hanging on the wall and people use to bow before them.


  Kou Butan Ko pujat hai
  Kou Butan Ko pujat hai
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  [[Kabir]]
  [[Kabir]]


Utaar Davo Sareean Photos gurus dee ghar ton,jo tuade saahmnae hai oh guru nahin hai
Guru has no form he is formless so remove all pictures
 
Namastan Aroopay
Namastan Aroopay


Es dee than llagaa lao gurbaani dee kuj tukaan -
Remove these pictures and place gurbani instead of it, Before you eyes. When you wake up in morning your eyes will face gurbani first you will get confidence and start the day before bowing to that gurbani instead of photos.


Savere uth kae ohee pareaa karo, kuj takat aavegee, kuj confidence aawegaa, Photos aggae sir kee jhukana gurbaani aggae sir jhukaao
==Ik gal note kareo jae==
 
Ik gal note kareo jae -


Baani try karo normal copy tae naa likho normal page te gurbaani jae likh dindae ho te oh wee guru granth sahib daa ik panna ban jaandaa hai tae ohee panna radhee wale nu fara dindae ho yaa dustbin ch sut dindae ho. So dont write gurbani on normal copy or on a page jidi tusee care he nahin karr sakdde.
Baani try karo normal copy tae naa likho normal page te gurbaani jae likh dindae ho te oh wee guru granth sahib daa ik panna ban jaandaa hai tae ohee panna radhee wale nu fara dindae ho yaa dustbin ch sut dindae ho. So dont write gurbani on normal copy or on a page jidi tusee care he nahin karr sakdde.
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Main guru nanak dee murtee wekhi mainu inna gussa chareaa, oh guru nanak dee murtee bnahin hai oh bramha dee murtee hovegee. Main rabb nu murtee dae roop ch nahin dekh sakdaa. Rabb mere ch hai tuade, but us noo aapan pachaan nahin sakde taanhee 5 evils ghar kar jaandae nae. Rabb dee moorat  tusee ho man tae kaboo paa lave, aapan fir tuanoo poojangae tuade through  
Main guru nanak dee murtee wekhi mainu inna gussa chareaa, oh guru nanak dee murtee bnahin hai oh bramha dee murtee hovegee. Main rabb nu murtee dae roop ch nahin dekh sakdaa. Rabb mere ch hai tuade, but us noo aapan pachaan nahin sakde taanhee 5 evils ghar kar jaandae nae. Rabb dee moorat  tusee ho man tae kaboo paa lave, aapan fir tuanoo poojangae tuade through  
rabb de praptee karan gae. Lagdaa main jeyaada likh rehaa
rabb de praptee karan gae. Lagdaa main jeyaada likh rehaa
to be contd....


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Revision as of 21:44, 5 February 2008

Photos, Pictures, Sceneries or Statues of the Guru Personalities are not accepted within Sikhism and Sikhism fully rejects these:

Guru Ji Himself declares and affirms upon the issue through Gurbani as:

  • "Meditate on the image of the Guru within your mind; let your mind accept the Word of the Guru's Shabad (Gurbani teachings) and His Mantra (advice & guidance). Enshrine the Guru's feet within your heart. Bow in humility forever before the Guru, the Supreme Lord God" (Tr. fr. SGGS page 864)
  • "Enshrine the Guru's Feet in your heart. Meditate on Him and cross over the ocean of fire" (Tr. fr. SGGS Page 192)

And hence Sikhism apparently justifies that Sikhism won't allow making or worshiping in any sort of Photos, Pictures. Statues, Sceneries of GURU personalities. All the ten GURU personalities never allowed any artist or engraver of the time, to carve their paintings. The camera system of Photography had not been invented & devolved till that period of history, as on today. All sorts of Guru's paintings, pictures or poses images found any where in the world are imaginary & mind made issue of the ignorant artists. This all has been done under Brahmnini and all above Hinduism faith but fundamentally it is that this all is contrary to the Sikh way of life or Sikh faith.

We have seen many Photographs/potraits showing guru's Their history. like today i have seen a picture of Mata Gujri & Sahibzada Zorawar Singh & Sahibzada Fateh Singh. I know that is poet's imagination . I was Making Photograph Of Guru Har Rai And Bhai Kuram Singh related to Gurudwara Amb Sahib through my imagination(I know i am not that much pure to imagine) at that time a thing strikes in my mind that am i doing rite thing? Well, saying about photographs these also acts as idol, i thought. Neither gurus nor their followers at that time made their pictures. They wrote bani and teach the bani. Making photos and started pray before it makes you addict to that photograph. I mean you got attach to it and attachment is one of our five evils.

Same thing strikes in my mind when My sister freind's give her statue of Guru Nanak Dev jee(Chinese made) as gurus rejected this concepts and blady people are making their statues. So it comes in my mind Na aapan Nind sakiyey, Na apnaoon nu dil kardaa

One more concept arise, In many Gurdwaras the idols of gurus which they left like Chola Saab, any ornamental etc also worshipped they show them like these are god well again i think idol worship concept begins. SGPC recently announced to remove all photos from SGPC linked gurdwaras and all other gurdwaras. But after this announce ment there are many gurdwaras which have guru's pictures hanging on the wall and people use to bow before them.

Kou Butan Ko pujat hai
Tavparsad Savaiya(patshahi 10)
Tirath naaveh archaa poojaa agar vaas behkaar
Guru Nanak Dev
Bhoganhaaray bhogi-aa is moorat kay mukh chhaar
Kabir
Aap hee poojaaree aap hee dayvaa
Guru Nanak Dev
Tora-o na paatee pooja-o na dayvaa
Kabir

Guru has no form he is formless so remove all pictures

Namastan Aroopay

Remove these pictures and place gurbani instead of it, Before you eyes. When you wake up in morning your eyes will face gurbani first you will get confidence and start the day before bowing to that gurbani instead of photos.

Ik gal note kareo jae

Baani try karo normal copy tae naa likho normal page te gurbaani jae likh dindae ho te oh wee guru granth sahib daa ik panna ban jaandaa hai tae ohee panna radhee wale nu fara dindae ho yaa dustbin ch sut dindae ho. So dont write gurbani on normal copy or on a page jidi tusee care he nahin karr sakdde.

Socho keho jehaa lagoo jad granth mahjaraj dee kuj lines paani ch parwah rahe hovo, agg laa kae sanskar kar rahe hovo, lagdaa nahin jiven koi wichar gea hundaa.

Granth sahib maharaaj wee apnaa pitaa waa. jiven odee care karde ho iven ode angan dee wee care karo.

jehri calender etc. te gurus dee photos banaiaan nae these are not gurmukhs nature. Gurmukh kade guru de pic nahin banavegaa. Oh apnae man ch guru dee image banawegaa, rabb de image banavegaa

Main guru nanak dee murtee wekhi mainu inna gussa chareaa, oh guru nanak dee murtee bnahin hai oh bramha dee murtee hovegee. Main rabb nu murtee dae roop ch nahin dekh sakdaa. Rabb mere ch hai tuade, but us noo aapan pachaan nahin sakde taanhee 5 evils ghar kar jaandae nae. Rabb dee moorat tusee ho man tae kaboo paa lave, aapan fir tuanoo poojangae tuade through rabb de praptee karan gae. Lagdaa main jeyaada likh rehaa