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Sarbjeet ji,
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The backup is done. It was a very long list of messages. Please free to ask me again if you need this processed repeated or perhaps you want to try it yourself next time. Please feel free to ask either way. Kind regards, [[user:hari singh|Hari Singh]]<sup>[[User talk:Hari singh|talk]]</sup> 13:31, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 
== Good night ==
 
Veerji, saw you were on, just wanted to say hello. 4am here . Rab Rakha
 
== NISHAAN SAHIB ==
 
Bhai Sahib ji, {{WKWF}}
 
Should we bow down before NISHAAN SAHIB? The short answer is no. The Sikh only bows to the shabad Guru, the essence of Waheguru and nothing else. However we respect everyone and live in humility and humbleness and if one shows respect to the Nishan as it reminds them of the Guru and hence Guru Shabad then who are we to discourage this. 
 
Some people pay respects to material things belonging to the Guru as it connects them to the Guru and so to the Shabad Guru - the word or command of the Guru. The important thing is the shabad - the meaning in the words of Gurbani. We show deep respect and follow the words of the Guru - That is what we promise to do when we bow to the Guru. ''"Waheguru, I accept your words and your hukam"''. However, if we do not follow the shabad then the bowing is in vain; it is wasted. So as long as you learn and dwell on the words of the Guru then bow to whatever connects you to this word; that is the real meaning of bowing in Sikhi - bowing and accepting the shabad.
 
Waheguru, mahar karan, may we learn and absorb the real meaning of Gurbani and follow Gurmat. Kind regards, [[user:hari singh|Hari Singh]]<sup>[[User talk:Hari singh|talk]]</sup> 23:50, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
 
Veer ji,
 
Many thanks to you and S Mandeep Singh ji. I am only the delivery-man; the message I hope is as sent by the Guru through Gurbani. Please continue to spread the beautiful message of the tall, tall Guru who dwarfs us all; but with such an able leader, I don't think we can go wrong provide we continue to practise Gurmat as did the Sikhs like [[Baba Deep Singh]], etc. May he give us the strength and vision to stay on his path.
 
I am most grateful for the reminder; I will update the active user list in 2 or 3 days. Veer ji, Many thanks for your kind words; everyone in the family is very well by the grace of Guru Nanak; may his nadar prevail at all times. I hope the same applies to all your family. Keep in chardikala. Raab Rakha. [[user:hari singh|Hari Singh]]<sup>[[User talk:Hari singh|talk]]</sup> 03:19, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 
== long time no see ==
 
Sarbjeet ji, hope all is well in Jammu, have not seen or rather heard from you here in a long time. Hope all the family is well.
 
Rab Rakhaa  [[User:Allenwalla|Allenwalla]] 04:41, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 
== Need to bring to the attention of parents of young Sikh brides in India ==


Many thanks for your contribution on this topic but I think (and believe) that the definition is not strictly correct according to [[Gurbani]] and in particular {{G11}}. Doesn't this [[Shabad]] give a definition of a Sikh - Maharaj says:
Dear Sarbjeet Singh ji, {{WKWF}}


{{Srigranth|305|14019|<big>ਮਃ ੪ ॥ </big> <br>
I have come across a particular problem with Sikh boys marrying NRI girls and then divorcing them before the 2 years so that the girl has to leave UK and go back to her country of origin; they keep the dowry and all the items belonging to the girl. I want to investigate the viability of creating a database of these perpetrators so that this trend can be stemmed. I wonder if a database can be setup using Orkut or such platform to help bring these perpetrators to the attention of parents of girls in India and other NRI countries so that they can be better informed about these types of people. This trend is leading to a lot of misery for our young girls.
Mehlĝ 4. <br>
Fourth Mehl: <br>


<big>ਗ੝ਰ ਸਤਿਗ੝ਰ ਕਾ ਜੋ ਸਿਖ੝ ਅਖਾਝ ਸ੝ ਭਲਕੇ ਉਠਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮ੝ ਧਿਆਵੈ ॥ </big> <br>
I have come across a Sikh boy in the UK who has been married twice and is divorcing for the second time and has already lined up a new bride in India. I have been involved in trying to assist the second girl but the boy and his family are not interested in negotiation or any compromise. Can you help in setting up this database?
Gur saṯgur kĝ jo sikẖ akẖĝ­ė so bẖalkė uṯẖ har nĝm ḝẖi­ĝvai. <br>
One who calls himself a Sikh of the Guru, the True Guru, shall rise in the early morning hours and meditate on the Lord's Name. <br>


<big>ਉਦਮ੝ ਕਰੇ ਭਲਕੇ ਪਰਭਾਤੀ ਇਸਨਾਨ੝ ਕਰੇ ਅੰਮ੝ਰਿਤ ਸਰਿ ਨਾਵੈ ॥ </big> <br>
The database should hold the pictures of the boy and/or his family - say up to 5 images in jpeg or other format; fields for his first name, surname and location details consisting of Town, County/District and Country; age and summary text field of 1000-5000 characters. Any help in setting up this would be most welcomed. Many thanks, [[user:hari singh|Hari Singh]]<sup>[[User talk:Hari singh|talk]]</sup> 23:02, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Uḝam karė bẖalkė parbẖĝṯī isnĝn karė amriṯ sar nĝvai. <br>
Upon arising early in the morning, he is to bathe, and cleanse himself in the pool of nectar. <br>


<big>ਉਪਦੇਸਿ ਗ੝ਰੂ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਜਪ੝ ਜਾਪੈ ਸਭਿ ਕਿਲਵਿਖ ਪਾਪ ਦੋਖ ਲਹਿ ਜਾਵੈ ॥ </big> <br>
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Upḝės gurū har har jap jĝpai sabẖ kilvikẖ pĝp ḝokẖ leh jĝvai. <br>
How are you? Do you have more pics of gurjrat guruduaras? ([[User:Hpt lucky|Lucky]] 08:16, 20 July 2010 (UTC))
Following the Instructions of the Guru, he is to chant the Name of the Lord, Har, Har. All sins, misdeeds and negativity shall be erased. <br>


<big>ਫਿਰਿ ਚੜੈ ਦਿਵਸ੝ ਗ੝ਰਬਾਣੀ ਗਾਵੈ ਬਹਦਿਆ ਉਠਦਿਆ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮ੝ ਧਿਆਵੈ ॥ </big> <br>
== Database creation ==
Fir cẖaṛai ḝivas gurbĝṇī gĝvai bahḝi­ĝ uṯẖ­ḝi­ĝ har nĝm ḝẖi­ĝvai. <br>
Then, at the rising of the sun, he is to sing Gurbani; whether sitting down or standing up, he is to meditate on the Lord's Name. <br>


<big>ਜੋ ਸਾਸਿ ਗਿਰਾਸਿ ਧਿਆਝ ਮੇਰਾ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਸੋ ਗ੝ਰਸਿਖ੝ ਗ੝ਰੂ ਮਨਿ ਭਾਵੈ ॥ </big> <br>
Veer ji, {{WKWF}}
Jo sĝs girĝs ḝẖi­ĝ­ė mėrĝ har har so gursikẖ gurū man bẖĝvai. <br>
One who meditates on my Lord, Har, Har, with every breath and every morsel of food - that GurSikh becomes pleasing to the Guru's Mind. <br>


<big>ਜਿਸ ਨੋ ਦਇਆਲ੝ ਹੋਵੈ ਮੇਰਾ ਸ੝ਆਮੀ ਤਿਸ੝ ਗ੝ਰਸਿਖ ਗ੝ਰੂ ਉਪਦੇਸ੝ ਸ੝ਣਾਵੈ ॥ </big> <br>
Many thanks for your kind response; hope you had an excellent trip and that all are keeping in chardikala. Please let us have a glimpse of some of the Gurdwara picture and historical significance of some of these Gurdwaras when you get some free time.
Jis no ḝa­i­ĝl hovai mėrĝ su­ĝmī ṯis gursikẖ gurū upḝės suṇĝvai. <br>
That person, unto whom my Lord and Master is kind and compassionate - upon that GurSikh, the Guru's Teachings are bestowed. <br>


<big>ਜਨ੝ ਨਾਨਕ੝ ਧੂੜਿ ਮੰਗੈ ਤਿਸ੝ ਗ੝ਰਸਿਖ ਕੀ ਜੋ ਆਪਿ ਜਪੈ ਅਵਰਹ ਨਾਮ੝ ਜਪਾਵੈ ॥੨॥ </big> <br>
Also, please let me know if you think it will be feasible to create a database or a controlled forum as mentioned in my previous message so that some of these marital and domestic problems can be highlighted and discussed; it would help a lot of people who are left in a very difficult situation.  
Jan Nĝnak ḝẖūṛ mangai ṯis gursikẖ kī jo ĝp japai avrah nĝm japĝvai. ॥2॥ <br>
Servant Nanak begs for the dust of the feet of that GurSikh, who himself chants the Naam, and inspires others to chant it. ॥2॥}}


The mention of Kesh is not there. I wonder where it in Gurbani it says that a Sikh MUST have [[Kesh]] and that without [[Kesh]] the person cannot be a Sikhs?
Thanks for asking, with Guru's bakshish everything is keeping well here in the UK. Raab Rakha, [[user:hari singh|Hari Singh]]<sup>[[User talk:Hari singh|talk]]</sup> 11:31, 20 July 2010 (UTC)


Also, until 1699, it appears that there was no requirement for Sikhs to don a [[Turban]] and I wonder if all [[Sikh]]s kept their hair? Personally, I believe not. Also many [[Muslim]]s were engaged in the Guru service but they remained Muslims - and there must have been many who followed the Gurus, but had not yet become "full" Sikhs - Surely here the word Sehajdhari applies and then they may don hair and turban and be called Keshdhari without actually taking [[Amrit]].
== NRI luutaray! ==


I accept that after 1699, the requirement changed but only for the [[Khalsa]]. Some say that various famous Sikhs did not become Khalsa - ie? Bhai Nand Lal ji, [[Bhai Kanhaiya]] ji, etc. To me the word Keshdhari is relevant but it does not make the other word like Sehajdhari, Amritdhari, etc redundant.
Veer ji, {{WKWF}}


That's my humble feelings - what do you say? das. [[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 08:20, 21 July 2007 (EDT)
I am sorry I did not reply earlier; I had seen your reply and the long quote and wanted to read this in full before replying - Sorry Veer ji for not dealing with this immediately.


==[[Punjab Sikhs]]==
This initiative by S. Balwant Singh Ramoowalia seems very good but I have a feeling this will take a long time - What I have in mind was a site like [http://wikileaks.org/ Wikileaks] - which is a database of wrongs hidden away by governments and large organisation - we need to setup a NRI abusers database so that all the girls who have had a bad experience can submit the picture and details of the abuser.
WaKaFa!
Is [[Punjab Sikhs|this]] OK ?. I plan developing [[J & K Sikhs]] as a template with the hope that volunteers from other states will join in in future & we will get a broad idea about the qulity & quantiti of TRUE [[Sikhi.]] in India. We may even quantify, compare & publish the Sikhi index state & country wise ete . Similar exercise may catch on where in Sikhs from other countries pick up the string & flawlessly knit the [[Khalsa]] Web the word over. Aim of the whole ex being lrning...'''Learn WHAT????.'''.. nothing but [[Gurbani|TRUTH god's Language]]
* Learn [[NAAM JAAN]]
* Help others Learn [[NAAM DAAN]]
* Correct the mistakes in learning .[[NAAM ISHNAAN]]
What Do you say ??   
[[SatGurBani]] Fateh!--Mutia 07:14, 20 July 2007 (EDT)


Articles by                Sarbjeet Singh Sethi,Jammu    J&K
What do you think? Do you think this will work? Guru fateh, [[user:hari singh|Hari Singh]]<sup>[[User talk:Hari singh|talk]]</sup> 19:18, 30 July 2010 (EDT)
Guru Nanak Dev ji has also visited Leh and Kargil districts of jammu and Kashmir state. Historical gurudwaras are situated at both the places.In leh district 'Pathar Sahib' is situated at 27 km from Leh city.
Category :Gurdwaras in Jammu and Kashmir            Gurdwara Charan Kamal Sahib KARGIL<LADAKH> A historical Gurdwara is situated in the outsquirt of Kargil city in the memory of Guru Nanak Dev ji Maharaj near the Bank of Suru River.
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==[[Nanak]] in J & K==
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Guru Nanak Dev ji's visits to  Leh and Kargil districts of jammu and Kashmir stand marked by  historical gurudwaras as under:-
*'''Leh district'''--Gurdwa 'Pathar Sahib' situated 27 km from Leh city.
*'''Kargil city'''-- Gurdwara Charan Kamal Sahib situated on the out skirts of the city on the the Bank of Suru River.
::---[[User:Sarbjeet 1313me|Sarbjeet 1313me Singh Sethi]]


Category :Gurdwaras in J & K, India
Thanks, I had noticed that you had taken care of the edit (ullu) just after I had noticed the word. Thanks for taking the time yo improve the page.
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Sarabjeet je WaKaFa!
I am [[User: Mutia|Amita Singh]] & welcome on [[SikhiWiki]] ,I organised your text a bit to to make it easy for you to aquint yourself with the formats ete to begin with. just start writing. We at SikhiWiki help each other & will take you along. Look forward to you being comfortable with the leyouts ete.


Feel free to interact with other users through the talk pages or through emails (where ever available in the profiles of individual users) Do not worry if you make mistakes . If you want to write about Gurdwaras ete just extend the text above . There are other Users who will follow it up & guide you . just feel dashing & bindaas. It is [[Sach Khand]], [[Sikh.]]s, [[Sikhi.]] & [[Compendium of TRUE IDEAs|ideas]] all over. Seeing you & looking forward to more intimate associations.
Raab Rakha, [[User:Allenwalla|Allenwalla]] 08:27, 22 March 2011 (EDT)


[[SatGurBani|Gur]] Fateh WaKaFa ! [[User: Mutia]] 17 Jul 07
== Duplicate article ==


== Thanks Amita Singh ji ==
Veer ji,


WJKKWJKF                  Thanks fr encouraging me.    Pl read article  'J&K SIKH'  Guru Fateh :sarbjeet_1313me
{{WKWF}}


Just noticed the article [[Narender Singh Kapany]] that you created - Veer ji, this may be a duplication of [[Dr. Narinder Singh Kapany]]? It may be worth merging the two into one article. Many thanks and warm regards, [[user:hari singh|Hari Singh]]<sup>[[User talk:Hari singh|talk]]</sup> 19:27, 19 June 2011 (EDT)
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Dear Sarbjeet Singh ji
Veer ji, {{WKWF}}
WaKaFa! thanks for your interest & staying with the site. I am a girl and writer by Profession , Located in Delhi .I write on [[SikhiWiki]] as [[Gurbani]] expects us to  do GurSeva (Seva of  [[SatGurBani]]).


As I can appreciate from spirit of your letter that God ( Nanak prefers to refer to  God as 'TRUTH god'  because true  Name of GOD is 'TRUTH'. i. e. SatNaam as is written in the beginning of Mool Mantar. ) has blessed you with the intellect to read [[SatGurBani ]] written on your heart.
Many thanks for the reply and for your kindness in asking about the family. With Guru's kind kirpa all is well and it is our ardas that Waheguru will continue to bless us with his nadar. I hope, veer ji that you and your family too are keeping in good health and in chardikala; also that the trip to Himachal went well.  
[[SatGurBani]] was not written by our gurus. It is already written on every body's heart. Gurus just copied it on paper for us to get guided for reading it from our heart ( they sacrificed themself for doing this) .


A Sikh is called a TRUE [[Sikh.]] only when he learns to read Gurbani from his / her heart . Gurbani is GOD's language written on every one's heart. By repeatedly listening to, speaking / singing ,& pondering over the meaning  one becomes fluent in understanding the TRUE meaning conveyed by it. This is TRUE [[Sikhi.]].
I am very grateful for your continuous help at Sikhwiki and it is my wish that together we are making a few more people in this vast world learn about the beautiful message of the Gurus. Warm regards and best wishes, [[user:hari singh|Hari Singh]]<sup>[[User talk:Hari singh|talk]]</sup> 20:38, 28 June 2011 (EDT)


In this writing I have included some links relevant to the persona of  TRUE [[Sikh.]] & his his/ her TRUE [[Sikhi.]] . Do share your mind with other users on any  [[Sikh Issues|Issues]] which you think are worth discussing keeping in mind Our Gurus' thumb rule on practicing [[Sikhi.]] as given in this tuk of Bani
== Contact meeting in India ==
...'''''hum nhin changy bura nahin koy......'''''. First we must correct ourselves  before we discuss stupidities of others.
         
As a new guest to the house needs  guidance about the lay out of the rooms, location of switches  etc, please permit me to give you a broad lay out of our house called [[SikhiWiki| Sikhi]] . Better still, we need to treat  this web site not as a mere Web Site but  a Gurdwara. It is an IT age Gurdwara.  I love to call this Gurdwara it self as [[Sikhi]] by hiding its 'Wiki' part of the name from the readers but not from the Server . Here are a few points about Sikhi (layout ) of  Sikhi( this Gurdwara)


all pages on [[SikhiWiki|Sikhi]] are organised in pairs as under:-
Veer ji
*1.'''Article Pages'''  The  page which carries the articles being written by users. the name of the page becomes the Name of the page itself . Here we need to ensure that a correct name is given. 
*2. '''Talk Pages'''  On these pages other  users write their comments on the Article.
Every user owns a pair of  two pages as under :-
*1. [[User:Sarbjeet 1313me|Your Personal Page]] :  This is a personal page and every  user is expected to introduse himself to all the other users about his name interests etc like I have done on [[User: Mutia|this]] page of mine. This is  [[User:Sarbjeet 1313me|Your Personal Page]]. You can write about yourself  some thing like you write in your bio-data submitted for applying for a job etc. Do not give any telephone Nos. In case you are comfortable with working on Net & with due approval from Senior members of your family, you may give your e mail address. It will helps other users of similar interests  to communicate with you through email.
*2. [[User Talk:Sarbjeet 1313me|Your User Talk Page]]: This is your letter Box where users will write messages for you like I am writing this Text Now
I have moved your letter written to me on my [[User Talk:Mutia|This]] User Talk Page.
Two articles initiated by you  titled  '[[Nanak in J & K]]' and '[[J & K Sikhs]]' have been  named that way  on two different Article Pages. From now on,  I plan working with you as a team on [[J & K Sikhs]] Page. Try writing your views on this page after practicing a bit on a page called Sand Bag .You should be able to get the link of 'Sand Bag' from  [http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Help:Contents this-->>'HELP!'page] 'Sand Bag' is some thing like a place where one learns driving before actually driving in heavy traffic. For details of how to work on [[Sikhi.]] (this Web Site) click here --->>>><font Size =5> [http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Help:Contents HELP!] </font>
In my next communication I plan  sharing my mind with you on the issue of  [[Punjab Sikhs]] as you rightfully expressed your concern about
Stay in touch .  ! I know J & K well as my father was posted there about a few years back . Bye for now.
& [[SatGurBani|Gur Fateh]] .....[[User: Mutia]]
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Amita Singh ji,WJKKWJKF Thanks again fr guiding me. I am an engineer by proffession and in govt service.Presently i am serving Rural Development Deptt. as Junior Engineer. I m very much interested in Sikhism and its Values .I wd like 2 write more about [[J & K Sikhs]]. Guru Fateh : Sarbjeet_1313me


== Punjab Sikhs ==
Many thanks for your kind words. It was great to chat on the telephone. Many thanks for trying to contact Bhai sahib. I have now made contact with Lucky ji and hopefully we may be able to meet in the next day or so.


Amita ji,WJKKWJKF, U hv already guided me a lot but being a new user I m still little bit confused as on which page i have 2 write on Article page or on my user page?Pl guide me Guru Fateh : sarbjeet
I am sorry I did not let you know of my plans earlier. I will remember in future to contact you before so that we can have a contact meeting in Punjab.


== Keshdhari Sikhs ==
Kind regards, [[user:hari singh|Hari Singh]]<sup>[[User talk:Hari singh|talk]]</sup> 12:24, 22 November 2011 (CST)


Hari Singh ji,WJKKWJKF, I fully respect ur views but hv difference of opinion on some points.U said kesh were nt imp up2 9th Nanak but tell me which follower of 10 Nanaks was without Kesh.The concept of Keshes are very imp  in the present scenario.Kesh r the 1st step 2wards sikhìsm.The Sikh Sangat of J&K is fully adhered 2 this concept of ARDAS "Sikhi kesa suasa sang nibhai".U can see Sikhs of J&K in chardi kala and Siki Saroop.  'Sir Galti baste muafi'  Guru Fateh sarbjeet_1313me JAMMU      21 july 2007
==Request to publish an article from [[sikhiwiki]] on [[Wikipedia]]==
I have created an article on wikipedia about [[Gurdwara Nangali Sahib (Poonch)]] and i want the permission to borrow the content from sikhiwiki.
[[user:Karankhajuria22|Karan]]<sup>[[User talk:Karankhajuria22|talk]]</sup> 10:58, 10 April 2017 (CST)

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"Sarbjeet ji, For a person who has shown dedication and commitment to SikhiWiki please accept this - The SikhiWiki man with a Heart barnstar. Many thanks for your continued dedication and hard work. Also your love and affection for other SikhiWiki users. You are a true Sikh of the Guru. It is an honour to have you on the team here. Keep up the great work!
Well done! I hope you like the barnstar!" Cheers, Hari singhtalk Hari Singh 06:57, 4 March 2008 (MST)

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Bhai sahib ji, Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh

The backup is done. It was a very long list of messages. Please free to ask me again if you need this processed repeated or perhaps you want to try it yourself next time. Please feel free to ask either way. Kind regards, Hari Singhtalk 13:31, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Good night

Veerji, saw you were on, just wanted to say hello. 4am here . Rab Rakha

NISHAAN SAHIB

Bhai Sahib ji, Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh

Should we bow down before NISHAAN SAHIB? The short answer is no. The Sikh only bows to the shabad Guru, the essence of Waheguru and nothing else. However we respect everyone and live in humility and humbleness and if one shows respect to the Nishan as it reminds them of the Guru and hence Guru Shabad then who are we to discourage this.

Some people pay respects to material things belonging to the Guru as it connects them to the Guru and so to the Shabad Guru - the word or command of the Guru. The important thing is the shabad - the meaning in the words of Gurbani. We show deep respect and follow the words of the Guru - That is what we promise to do when we bow to the Guru. "Waheguru, I accept your words and your hukam". However, if we do not follow the shabad then the bowing is in vain; it is wasted. So as long as you learn and dwell on the words of the Guru then bow to whatever connects you to this word; that is the real meaning of bowing in Sikhi - bowing and accepting the shabad.

Waheguru, mahar karan, may we learn and absorb the real meaning of Gurbani and follow Gurmat. Kind regards, Hari Singhtalk 23:50, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Veer ji,

Many thanks to you and S Mandeep Singh ji. I am only the delivery-man; the message I hope is as sent by the Guru through Gurbani. Please continue to spread the beautiful message of the tall, tall Guru who dwarfs us all; but with such an able leader, I don't think we can go wrong provide we continue to practise Gurmat as did the Sikhs like Baba Deep Singh, etc. May he give us the strength and vision to stay on his path.

I am most grateful for the reminder; I will update the active user list in 2 or 3 days. Veer ji, Many thanks for your kind words; everyone in the family is very well by the grace of Guru Nanak; may his nadar prevail at all times. I hope the same applies to all your family. Keep in chardikala. Raab Rakha. Hari Singhtalk 03:19, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

long time no see

Sarbjeet ji, hope all is well in Jammu, have not seen or rather heard from you here in a long time. Hope all the family is well.

Rab Rakhaa Allenwalla 04:41, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Need to bring to the attention of parents of young Sikh brides in India

Dear Sarbjeet Singh ji, Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh

I have come across a particular problem with Sikh boys marrying NRI girls and then divorcing them before the 2 years so that the girl has to leave UK and go back to her country of origin; they keep the dowry and all the items belonging to the girl. I want to investigate the viability of creating a database of these perpetrators so that this trend can be stemmed. I wonder if a database can be setup using Orkut or such platform to help bring these perpetrators to the attention of parents of girls in India and other NRI countries so that they can be better informed about these types of people. This trend is leading to a lot of misery for our young girls.

I have come across a Sikh boy in the UK who has been married twice and is divorcing for the second time and has already lined up a new bride in India. I have been involved in trying to assist the second girl but the boy and his family are not interested in negotiation or any compromise. Can you help in setting up this database?

The database should hold the pictures of the boy and/or his family - say up to 5 images in jpeg or other format; fields for his first name, surname and location details consisting of Town, County/District and Country; age and summary text field of 1000-5000 characters. Any help in setting up this would be most welcomed. Many thanks, Hari Singhtalk 23:02, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

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How are you? Do you have more pics of gurjrat guruduaras? (Lucky 08:16, 20 July 2010 (UTC))

Database creation

Veer ji, Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh

Many thanks for your kind response; hope you had an excellent trip and that all are keeping in chardikala. Please let us have a glimpse of some of the Gurdwara picture and historical significance of some of these Gurdwaras when you get some free time.

Also, please let me know if you think it will be feasible to create a database or a controlled forum as mentioned in my previous message so that some of these marital and domestic problems can be highlighted and discussed; it would help a lot of people who are left in a very difficult situation.

Thanks for asking, with Guru's bakshish everything is keeping well here in the UK. Raab Rakha, Hari Singhtalk 11:31, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

NRI luutaray!

Veer ji, Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh

I am sorry I did not reply earlier; I had seen your reply and the long quote and wanted to read this in full before replying - Sorry Veer ji for not dealing with this immediately.

This initiative by S. Balwant Singh Ramoowalia seems very good but I have a feeling this will take a long time - What I have in mind was a site like Wikileaks - which is a database of wrongs hidden away by governments and large organisation - we need to setup a NRI abusers database so that all the girls who have had a bad experience can submit the picture and details of the abuser.

What do you think? Do you think this will work? Guru fateh, Hari Singhtalk 19:18, 30 July 2010 (EDT)

changed

Thanks, I had noticed that you had taken care of the edit (ullu) just after I had noticed the word. Thanks for taking the time yo improve the page.

Raab Rakha, Allenwalla 08:27, 22 March 2011 (EDT)

Duplicate article

Veer ji,

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh

Just noticed the article Narender Singh Kapany that you created - Veer ji, this may be a duplication of Dr. Narinder Singh Kapany? It may be worth merging the two into one article. Many thanks and warm regards, Hari Singhtalk 19:27, 19 June 2011 (EDT)

Veer ji, Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh

Many thanks for the reply and for your kindness in asking about the family. With Guru's kind kirpa all is well and it is our ardas that Waheguru will continue to bless us with his nadar. I hope, veer ji that you and your family too are keeping in good health and in chardikala; also that the trip to Himachal went well.

I am very grateful for your continuous help at Sikhwiki and it is my wish that together we are making a few more people in this vast world learn about the beautiful message of the Gurus. Warm regards and best wishes, Hari Singhtalk 20:38, 28 June 2011 (EDT)

Contact meeting in India

Veer ji

Many thanks for your kind words. It was great to chat on the telephone. Many thanks for trying to contact Bhai sahib. I have now made contact with Lucky ji and hopefully we may be able to meet in the next day or so.

I am sorry I did not let you know of my plans earlier. I will remember in future to contact you before so that we can have a contact meeting in Punjab.

Kind regards, Hari Singhtalk 12:24, 22 November 2011 (CST)

Request to publish an article from sikhiwiki on Wikipedia

I have created an article on wikipedia about Gurdwara Nangali Sahib (Poonch) and i want the permission to borrow the content from sikhiwiki. Karantalk 10:58, 10 April 2017 (CST)

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