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Thank you.
Thank you.
==Fateh==
Sorry for late reply ji. I was and still am in france (attended two Sikhi Gurmat camps). I dont remember date or article of the painting sorry, but i am 150% it was your painting. [[User:Sunnybondsinghjalwehra|Sunnybondsinghjalwehra]] 11:50, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

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"Richard, As a show of my appreciation of your continued, dedicated and tireless work on SikhiWiki please accept this SikhiWiki Working Man's Barnstar. Many thanks for your continued dedication and hard work. You are doing an most Wonderful job! Well done. I hope you like the barnstar!" Cheers, Hari singhtalk 18:25, 5 February 2008 (GMT)


Thanks for being With

Dear Upright Penpal~~ Creative Khalsa Singh Nirvair Living Gurbani Steadfast & Selfmade Allenwalla ji, 'Gur Khalsy dee Ftyh' prvaan krnee jee. !!!!

'Jo mangyy Thakur Apny ty soee soee dyvyy ......(Whatsoever is sought from Khalsa. dear, all in toto gives he granted subject to condition that blessings of Gurbani be there.)

We are a family of typos & need to do better. God is with all of us to take care. Hearty Thanks for the guidance !

Gur Khalsa Ftyh !

--Amar Kaur 11:22, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


Seeking Permission

  • Write, Publish & Share True Ideas with Sarbat Khalsa & take everyone along --Khalsa Nanak Singh Jpujee Sahib


Dear Upright Penpal~~ Creative Khalsa Singh Nirvair Living Gurbani Steadfast & Selfmade Allenwalla ji, 'Gur Khalsy dee Ftyh' prvaan krnee jee. !!!!

1. KSO(Sarbat Khalsa) has no copywrite issues no where. However Sikhi on SikhiWiki encompasses Wiki as well. In fact not being a Gurbani writer, copying it & publishing it through all means, is the 'ONE' & 'ONLY ONE' offence for a True Sikh. A few years back our friend Luckyji almost got in trouble for it. That was unfortunate. Let us Sikhs, through the grace of Gurbani' stay fortunate & out of trouble. So much for this plea.

2. Sir, You( Nanak ) write wonderful & True thoughts. May this Khalsa seek your permission to copy them for subsequent publication on googlesites/sites/khalsastandardorganisation.com for Khalsa not having access to modren means of communication ? I am refering to Sikhs living in remote punjab villages to begin with.

3. I do not know anything about copywriting etc, except that copy-paste can get one in trouble. Wicked are ways of destructive journalism.

Gur-Khalsa Ftyh !


Amar Kaur 08:58, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Amita's Grand Mother & One's Mother. Panth kee daasee Upright Angkaran Creative Khalsa Kaur Nirvairan Living Gurbani Steadfast & Selfmade Amaar80 from Delhi .

ON ELECTION DUTY

Sir,

SSA,

All are fine wid the Guru's Kirpa,presently busy in election meetings as i hv been deputed for election duty as Presiding Officer for the polling which is going to be held on 16th in Jammu. user:sarbjeet_1313me

Sikhs on Yatra in Pakistan

Sat Sri Akal, Richard,

Has been fixed. Thanks for reminding. Regards, Hari Singhtalk 02:50, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

My Grandfather

Brother, i think you took it in wrong way. My Grandfather tells us about their war. About his experiance, tells us what bravery is, tells us how they fought, what problems they face, in what conditions he was and he is proud that still he is alive after facing them. He was in infantry. He is retired captain. and enjoying the life and pension he is getting from Government. He fought for british but for india.

but he always says one thing, nobody like war, but if you have to face to then think that you will never see the world again. He have positive attitude towards everything.

(Lucky 17:40, 13 April 2009 (UTC))

.....higher still is truthful living

Hi Richard,

Thanks for the amendments. Yes, it definitely reads better. I will try and finish this tomorrow so I have put the "work in progress" label for tonight. Please feel free to edit. Kind regards, Hari Singhtalk 01:49, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Election over at Jammu

Richard Ji,

SSA,

Thanx 4 the message,election is over (peacefully) here, sigh of relief as i was posted at Jammu city polling booth.Mercury is at rise now and it is difficult at day time to come out. Rest everything is f9. Waheguru Rakha

user:sarbjeet_1313me

Thanks

Thanks a lot for the kind motivation. My reply is available over here --Singh6 17:11, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

R/Sir, SSA, sorry for deleting the Punga. I see no importance of that. user:sarbjeet_1313me

Casteism, etc. Part 1

Dear Bhai Richard ji, Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh

Unfortunately, the beautiful eye photo is not my work but found on the net. However, I agree that it is a most wonderful eye; with an amazing spectrum of colours and something that a typical Indian would love to have in duplicate.

Many thanks for a most informative message and the compliment of calling me "a true Gursikh"; that I believe is a first on the net! I have had the pleasure of receiving that pleasure personally but I think this is a first time on the net. I hope I continue to maintain that threshold into the future. Many thanks again.

Richard, as you say, people who have dark skin strive for lighter skin; while the ones who have natural white skin continuously desire darker skin. I wonder if this is a recent shift in the perception of society? With the advent of global TV and air travel, the world has "opened up" and people see different peoples and cultures and constant advertising which tells them that they should have and they can have more! The average person is lead to believe that tomorrow will bring more and better things and that everyday things will get better, easier and more perfect.

It appears that the huge effort made by great saintly people like Guru Nanak has not had a proportionately significant mark on the planet; for the majority, their message does not exist; they continue to live without much spiritual knowledge or awareness; going from one emotional upheaval to the next; or from one emotional peak to the next. Most in the world are living just like simple animals live; just dealing day to day with their immediate needs and instinct; there is no thought for others; there is no effort to help the under privileged; etc. In fact some have gone in the reverse direction and kill anyone who does not "fit in" with their ideas. How do we relate that with the fact that humans have the biggest IQ?

Either, we do not use this IQ at all and it is dormant or that we use it mainly for destructive purposes; in which case, should we even call it IQ in the first place; may be "DI", "destructive intelligence" would be more appropriate. It appears that when folks are allowed complete freedom, they abuse it - consider the CEO like Sir Allen Stanford ($7b??), Bernard Madoff ($50b), CEOs of Enron ($31b) and other financial controllers like Jerome Kerviel of French bank Societe Generale($7b), Nick Leeson, who bankrupted British bank Barings ($1.38b), etc. (See the full World corruption timeline).

This apparent human "weakness" is not limited to CEO's and financial personnel, in the UK, we have had many British politicians "publicly charged" for exaggerating their expenses; many had grossly "over-claimed" money from the UK treasury. This inability of intelligent people to act wisely and with restraint is becoming a common occurrence; not only is crime on the increase, we have many so called "innocent" people engaged in small scale corruption in their daily lives. Self control and individual standards appear to have disappeared altogether.

end of part 1.... to be continued in part2. Hari Singhtalk 13:43, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Casteism, etc. Part 2

Dear Richard ji, Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh

Unfortunately, the history of human society is littered with misery, suppression and selfishness; not a year goes past without news of some new inhumane treatment of a section of society; be it India 1947, Germany 1944, Amritsar 1984 or Iran 2009. The message of all the prophets, sons of God, Gurus and the many bhagats & saints has been wasted on the human race; the sub-humans still rule the land and dictate the forums of this earth; they control and influence the majority.

The sane people of the world who probably number just a few million look on daily, in horror and in disgust at the daily killings and slaughtering of human beings that goes on everywhere. How far have we gone from the simple message of friendship and love promoted by our spiritual guides! To just think that it is these 5 little devils inside each one of us who are responsible for this massive carnage around us! If we only had more people like Bhai Kanhaiya!

Yes, as you say, the sharing of the pure holy water from one bowl is forgotten; its wider meaning has been completely lost; they quarrel about whether the bowl is made of steel or iron but do not know about its broad implications; brotherhood of man and sisterhood of woman does not enter their minds. They are too busy worrying about their hold on political power and on lining their pockets than on anything else; how can we accept these people as our spiritual or moral guides? These are the people who are supposed to guide the Panth!

Calling someone by their name is deemed to be impolite in many cultures and 'Sir' or 'Bhai sahib' or such other honorific titles are commonly used; especially if you are older than the other person. Each culture has its own little rules and this is one that still survives in a few places. I think it is good when we have these rules and people like voluntarily to follow these rules; its a show of respect which I hope has some meaning and substance.

It is amazing that of the seven deadly sins of Christianity Lust, Greed, Wrath, Pride, Envy, Sloth and Gluttony; four are exactly the same; yet the world continues on its path of excessive greed! I am sure that the compliments of the virtues of Christianity are equally ignored by our so called "noble" politicians and leaders in the West.

Many things are not under the control of man; where we are born; who our parents are; how rich or poor they are, etc are not in our control, but how we behave in our daily lives is under our control. In Japji stanza 34, Guru Nanak reminds us:

ਰਾਤੀ ਰ੝ਤੀ ਥਿਤੀ ਵਾਰ॥ ਪਵਣ ਪਾਣੀ ਅਗਨੀ ਪਾਤਾਲ ॥

ਤਿਸ੝ ਵਿਚਿ ਧਰਤੀ ਥਾਪਿ ਰਖੀ ਧਰਮ ਸਾਲ ॥ ਤਿਸ੝ ਵਿਚਿ ਜੀਅ ਜ੝ਗਤਿ ਕੇ ਰੰਗ ॥
ਤਿਨ ਕੇ ਨਾਮ ਅਨੇਕ ਅਨੰਤ ॥ ਕਰਮੀ ਕਰਮੀ ਹੋਇ ਵੀਚਾਰ੝ ॥

Rĝṯī ruṯī thiṯī vĝr. Pavaṇ pĝṇī agnī pĝṯĝl.

Ŧis vicẖ ḝẖarṯī thĝp rakẖī ḝẖaram sĝl. Ŧis vicẖ jī▫a jugaṯ ke rang.
Ŧin ke nĝm anek ananṯ.Karmī karmī ho▫e vīcẖĝr.

Nights, days, weeks and seasons; wind, water, fire and the nether regions

in the midst of these, He established the earth as a home for Dharma. Upon it, He placed the various species of beings.
Their names are uncounted and endless. By their deeds and their actions, they shall be judged. (part of pauri 34)

That the Earth is a place to practice dharm or righteousness and only your deeds and actions is what matters and will count in the end. Let us hope that we can perform the deeds and actions which will bring honour in the Lord's court!

Regarding the suggestions, we have a normal date on the main page, I will try and work out how to get the Nanakshahi date; also I will send a message to Gundeep Kaur as suggested.

Many thanks for the very informative message from both of you (as your smarter-half also contributed)! Kind regards, Hari Singhtalk 03:59, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

PUNJAB Sahib?

Hi Richard ji, Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh

It is surprising to see Panja sahib called Punjab sahib! It is obvious that the reporter is not too familiar with this important Sikh Gurdwara - one of very few where in my opinion a miracle happened. It is strange that although the Gurus do not actively promote the performance of miracles, that here at Panja sahib we have an example where the proof of the miracle has lasted for over 500 years!

I am not too sure about the train service in Punjab although I believe that this used to run from India (Delhi) to Lahore. The bus service is a more sure thing as this has been seen running between Amritsar and Lahore in many photos and video reports. I do not have any personal experience of this journey and it may be that these facilities have been suspended due to the tensions between the nations.

We don't get any direct news about India or Pakistan on our TV package; I think we need to have Sky to get this direct news; however, it is always good when people behave in a civilised and mature manner. Hopefully, one day the borders between India and Pakistan will be like France and Germany! almost no existent.

I don't really know what happened to Harcharan Singh since he was made any officer. Let's hope he continues to make progress and attract others to the army. Kind regards, Hari Singhtalk 17:42, 25 June 2009 (UTC)


Thanks for the message and photos. I believe that for news reports we can use a few photos as long as we mention the source on the article and the photo as per the "fair use" policy in the media field.

I did read the joke at the "A presidential ‘punga’" article - it is a little cheap bit to include in what appears to be a serious news article!

Please, could you give me the url (link addresses) to these photos so we can include that if we use the photos. Many thanks, Hari Singhtalk 02:36, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Budhsinghwala

Sorry for late reply, Allenwalla ji. Nice edits. In punjabi when we say born in house of Bhai X Singh and Mata Y Kaur, it means that they r the parents... Lol its like that in Punjabi.. So it has been translated to literally. Hope i answered ur question. Hor baki sab? everything else is fine? sadly i cant dedicate the same time to sikhiwiki anymore as i used to (in free time im writing a big volumed book, which may take years, like big history)... your painting of hari singh nalwa was used in the uk's best punjabi newspaper Des PArdes some weeks back. when i saw it i wanted to tell, but dunno forgot to tell... Sunnybondsinghjalwehra 23:17, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Kalgi of Guru Gobind Singh Ji

Richard ji, Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Unfortunately, it does not give me any pleasure as I believe that the item had a better enviroment here in the UK for its preservation.

Unfortunately, the Punjabis are not ones to look after historical things very carefully. As we can see, very few of the historical items and building have been preserved. The item would have been much better preserved here in the UK and it would have a much wider audience.

Further, many Sikhs live and visit museums and enjoy the darshan of historical item relating to Sikhi here as well. In my opinion, we should have a good spread of our Sikh history for all the world to enjoy. Punjabis do not have a monopoly on Sikh history. Sikhs are now part of many global communities. A step backward I think! What are your thoughts? Hari Singhtalk 18:52, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Repost - sorry previously posted in hurry

That post was not for you, that was for hari singh ji i want him to take care of articles which i would create soon, on charitropakhyan written by guru gobind singh. there are many foes of bani of Guru Gobind Singh due to their wrong interpretations. So i am interpreting the controverial bani, with help of positive interpretations of some sikh scholars. Whenever we search on google about dasam granth we just get controversial or negative prespective of it.

Sir you know with your touch my articles are worth reading, and i want the articles which i will create on Dasam Bani on charitropakhyan, the meaning of article should not be changed, and i know you will help in improving standard of article. so dont take tension bro. if any prob contact me i wrote first article Tale of King of Sirmaur.....thanks (Lucky 17:47, 3 July 2009 (UTC))

Qudrat

Bhai sahib ji,

Please refer to: http://www.advancedcentrepunjabi.org/eos/QUDRAT%20(SPELLED%20QUDRATI%20IN%20GURBANI).html which may provide answers. If not please leave a memo as before. Many thanks as always. Regards, Hari Singhtalk 22:18, 7 July 2009 (UTC)


Probably due to the different time zone, we would normally be "out-of-sync" in our "shift" at the computer. Also, I do not generally look at the comment field in great detail. Good to know this url may have the original article. I find that these original articles are in "old English" and need to be "softened" a little to fit into the language of today. Hope it does the trick! Regards, Hari Singhtalk 23:09, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Roudh

Bhai sahib ji,

Seems a bit far fetched but we will give the contributor a chance to prove us wrong! Thanks to you and Lucky for monitoring the edits. Kind regards, Hari Singhtalk 00:05, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Roudh and Dr. Arvind-Pal Singh Mandair

Bhai sahib ji, Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh

I think this "Roudh history" may not have any sound grounding or written records. We may need to re-word the article to reflect this as most of the claims appear to be "oral" versions, etc. No link found to the video referred to in this comment?

I will try and find some data on the Dr. Never come across him before. Many thanks again, Hari Singhtalk 15:26, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Got into the middle again

Bhai sahib ji, Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh

Lucky ji, I only noticed you were not finished after some changes, how are things in Punjab, have the rains finally cooled things down. While checking a note to Hari ji, I noticed that you had been talking with Jarnail Singh, what a rotten thing for his paper (and goverment) to do. I wish him the best, surely good things will come to him and his family. Hopefully, if he wants, he can get his journalist card restored. I am sure that he would have no trouble landing another job.

Raab Rakha, Allenwalla 06:04, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Got into the middle again

Bhai sahib ji, Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh

Sorry Lucky ji, I only noticed you were not finished (Gurdwara Guru Gobind Singh Ji (Sirsa), after some changes. How are things in Punjab, your studies, your family; have the rains finally cooled things down. While checking a note to Hari ji, I noticed that you had been talking with Jarnail Singh, what a rotten thing for his paper (and goverment) to do. I wish him the best, surely good things will come to him and his family. Hopefully, if he wants, he can get his journalist card restored. I am sure that he would have no trouble landing another job.

Raab Rakha, Allenwalla 06:07, 15 July 2009 (UTC)


sat shri akaal sir ji

how are you sir jee hope everything's fine.

i m now finished with that article, everything's fine in punjab including studies, family. no proper raining is there it just like drizzling for an hour or two to make atmosphere cool but still it's hot in sunny days and humid too. he cannot get his card restored due to that act which he did bring shame to journalism society, but he is sikh also. he is planning for books on survivers of 84 riots.

Sir i am writing and article on Guru Nanak & Shamsis, i have followed various books and internet too, after that i am creating this article. I am writing whole the article as an idea help me in peoper translation and grammer. thanks (Lucky 18:02, 15 July 2009 (UTC))

reply 4m jarnail singh

bhai saab this is very tough question. anyway, my shoe wa not off before the incident. yes it was a bit loose my ankle had been giving problem for a while. there was an extra cushion in my shoe too. hope your friend has got his answer.

(Lucky 14:17, 17 July 2009 (UTC))

sat shri akaal again

sir my main idea was to tell what article says, i am not good at all in english. so you can change accordingly with synonyms r more correct word. i have no problem sir ji. now you have to help me in interpretation of these charitars. thanks (Lucky 18:54, 19 July 2009 (UTC))

Bhatts

Hi Bhai sahib ji, Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh

I am not very familiar with Bhatt Bani (apart from 1 or 2 shabads) but I will look at this in more detail during this week. What is more difficult to deal with the the concept of God and "son of God". Gurbani addresses all souls as a "light" of God so we are all little sparks of God; or saints have even been called "sons of the Lord"; and Bani constantly refers to the "soul" as the "wife of the Husband Lord".

With this in mind then to call a "saint" a "son of God" is acceptable as far a Gurbani goes. However, the son cannot be called the father as Guru Gobind Singh made very clear. There is a big jump from being the spark to the becoming fire itself; but the interaction between the soul and super-soul is not a easy concept to comprehend completely.

So this then brings us to the concept of "Guru Nanak, son of Lord Vishnu". I am not an expert on Hindu concepts of "Gods" but if this statement is saying in effect that "Guru Nanak is the son of the Lord" then I don't find that disturbing but if Lord Vishnu refers to something else and not "God" then please correct me. Gurbani refer to God as Guru or Satguru and we find the line "The Guru is Shiva, the Guru is Vishnu and Brahma; the Guru is Paarvati and Lakhshmi" (Japji ji SGGS page 2) so I take it that the Lord is all those things and also God created all these entities - Lord Vishnu, Brahma, Shiva, etc. Bani also says "From this Primal Void, Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva issued forth" (sggs p1037).

I wonder if make the issue any clearer or not? Regards, Hari Singhtalk 12:49, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

lol....

I was sleeping during solar eclipse and before few minutes i got the news that today was solar eclipse. Actually holidays and lazyness makes a person ignorant and same happened. ya it was longest eclipse in 20th century. (Lucky 09:23, 22 July 2009 (UTC))

    • Sikh do not believe in avtarvaad, how can they treat guru nanak, an avtar or prophet or last massenger etc. we believe in philosphy given by them and not only he but namdev, kabir, fareed etc. Guru ji added only those bani in guru granth shaib which is ok acc to sikhi. (Lucky 08:34, 23 July 2009 (UTC))

Thank you.

Thank you veerji for helping to populate the Prof. Darshan Singh Khalsa page. A great help as I didn't know how to do it.

Thank you.

Fateh

Sorry for late reply ji. I was and still am in france (attended two Sikhi Gurmat camps). I dont remember date or article of the painting sorry, but i am 150% it was your painting. Sunnybondsinghjalwehra 11:50, 29 July 2009 (UTC)