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Thanx Again !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanx Again !!!!!!!!!!!!!
--[[User:SinghKalsi|SINGH Kalsi]] 17:20, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

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"Richard, As a show of my appreciation of your continued, dedicated and tireless work on SikhiWiki please accept this SikhiWiki Working Man's Barnstar. Many thanks for your continued dedication and hard work. You are doing an most Wonderful job! Well done. I hope you like the barnstar!" Cheers, Hari singhtalk 18:25, 5 February 2008 (GMT)


Sir

If you want to change some text you can change i made an archive page for you. (Lucky 18:12, 9 July 2008 (UTC))

Thanks for your concern

Bhai sahib ji

I don't know if these contraption have made it to the UK. I will ask my niece who sees a chiropractor on a regular basis. Thanks for your suggestion. I will ask her to check and then we can make arrangements for dad to visit the specialist.

I am amazed about these pictures with 1-onkar on the face. We had some "fanatics" (sorry I could not think of a more kinder term with a similar meaning, perhaps "strong minded" would be a more civil term) who resort to these practises. This is an extension of not showing movies of the Gurus although as I said before there is a beautiful cartoon about Guru Nanak's history. I agree that they have not understood the Guru's words.

Regarding Guru Nanak and women equality - No they think that this right actually came about in the last century in the west - see my entry on wikipedia here. This entry was removed and I did not bother fighting the wikipedia war! So now, if you read the article, it has no mention about Guru Nanak. I would recommend that you stay away from wikipedia because it can become a complete waste of time!

Raab rakha. PS - I see Lucky has done an archive for you - Good house keeping if you know how to do it! Keep well and many thanks for your comments and help. regards, Hari Singhtalk 23:14, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello

Seems like you already have an archive! cool. As for your questions-

1. Baba Buddha ji never would make a simple mistake like this. It looks a little odd, mistaking left for right. You know, Guru Arjan ji was very rich, some accounts state that in some years his income was more than the Emperor Jehangir, and he kept a retinue of soldiers with him. The sikh Gurus frequently came into contact with Mughal Emperors. Guru Arjan built a few cities too. Founding a city is not a small job, when you take into consideration men and resources to be involved. For example, the city of Tarn Taran was purchased by Guru Arjan, then in the form of land of three villages, at a cost of 1 lakh rupees. 1 lakh rupees in those times amounted to maybe 1 billion of today. Why i stated all this is because, the concept of 'miri' and 'piri' was not alien to Guru Har Gobind. Knowing the rapid rise of Sikhi guruji knew that sooner than later, he would have to cater to material needs and worldly matters of Sikhs. The disputes of the population at those times were decided by ulemas and pandits according to their respective religious laws. Sikhs did not believe in their dogmas, then why would they obey their life relating dispute laws. But Sikhs also did not wanted to get trapped in any restricting laws, which would hinder the growth of the coming generations and oppose flexibility of life which is always evolving. Also as he was going to militarise the sikhs, he would have known that there would be clash of interests in future. So, the concept of 'miri' and 'piri' was institutionally formalised by Guru Har Gobind, which clearly seperated religion from politics. Guru Har Gobind was final authority on any dispute and so were his successors. Guru Gobind Singh granted that 'supreme authority' to decide common issues relating to politics, everyday affairs to the whole 'Khalsa panth'. The spiritual authority was to be in Guru Granth Sahib. As far as spiritual laws are concerned , no Sikh could chage them, but for worldly matters, Sikhs were to assemble and adopt the course they arrived at collectively.

Taking this whole picture into account, the side on which Baba Budda ji put the sword, whether left or right, does not matter and is wholly ir-relevent, not worth mentioning.

2. Left or right not important in Sikhi. That is why there are four entrances to a gurdwara in four directions. The four doors serve all classes of people, whichever direction they come from and whatever background. I don't know why wives sit on left of groom, some things get stuck and it is difficult to change them.

3. I think Guru Gobind Singh ji would have held two swords or held one sword in his right hand, or held in his left hand- whatever, does not matter.

4. I usually am not very keen to talk about myself. But i am in my 20's and a born Sikh. I am from punjab and my ancestoral village is somewhere near where Baba Buddha ji was born. Koolkat 12:58, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello

  • Sir a question strikes in my mind. From which religon you belongs Christianitism, Islamism, Buddhism, Universal Himanisam, bahaism, Judaism, Confucianism, Shintoism or Not Religious but Spiritual? Asking generally.
  • What attracts you towards sikhism? What you find in sikhism? What is sikhism to you? What extra you found in sikhism till know? Again asking generally. I find a thing that your knowledge to sikhism is more then me.

Regards (Lucky 13:14, 10 July 2008 (UTC))

about my education

is my english bad? anyways i learned it in my school, it is considered top-notch in north india, won't say more. take care paajiKoolkat 05:38, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Sir hellooo

Well Your knowledge to sikhism is much more then me reason being you remember all the facts and use them when you need it to be. I forgots the facts everytime and i have to study them again and again. If you will ask any question from me about sikhism i could not reply you at that point of time, reason being my sentence creation is o poor what to tell. If i know the answer then to convert that to words i consume some time then i speak and today generation is very fast. Every one likes clever people, and this is yuga of fast & clever people in every department(Not only in speaking).

Well Allah is the name of God yeshu is name of god, YOu can remember god in any name. Like in guru Granth Sahib

Ram - Means who is rameyaa in everybuddy, Paramaad - from begining, paramadbhutan - great amazing thing it is dictionary of the different names of god according to his feature and attitude and living and....................cant say in words.

Tohra, ya it seema to village name, No its not that Torah. Ya there is a word called Tohr which means something like personality. Like we say he have different personality. Ohde tohar wakhri aa. Its not exact personality i am not getting proper english word. Tohra is name of village some words do not have meanings like my village name is LOTON....Do not pronounce it Lo Tan.......it is LO..TO (N sound at last). It does not have any meaning just like we say bruahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh what it means.auuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu what it means. Ya tohra must have some meaning i will find it out.

Gur means Guru...Charan means Foot. in gurus feet.(Lucky 12:40, 11 July 2008 (UTC))

Using Left Hand

Well i use right hand while eating, Ya but while eating noodles with stick i have to use my left hand. Ya i have seen some people on dining table use lef hand. But i do not use it generally, sometimes if i have to break Mango pickle or Green Chilly Pickle then i have to use left hand because these are hard to break with one hand, if you will try you just throw down the eating plate.

I think about satrun you said considering astrology or i do ot understood the point. Well i do not believe in astrology or any these type of fake readings like tarot, biorythm, sthichomency etc.

I think chinese Tohra is sanskrit or punjabi word. It may be word of some dielect. Like Childern in punjabi Bacchey, in powadhi my dielect it is Nianey in doabi dielect it is Jawaak. (Lucky 14:30, 11 July 2008 (UTC))

acha

SSA

I'm in 2 month vacation right now... I passed with 80%. Congratz for ur mobile!! Excellent painting you have!

Sunnybondsinghjalwehra 11:59, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Sat Shri Akaal

  • Yang of 5 Tola - Ayurvedic medicine (aralu or chebulic myrobalan), 5 Tola means weighing 5 Tola its an indian weighing unit - 1 Tola = 12 Grams so it means 60 Grams of Aralu
  • laung of 3 masha and (Ath Ratti bhar Tol) - clove weighing one masha, Masha is weighing unit, Like Tola is weighing unit while weightig Gold. In 1 Tola its almost 12 gram(0.375 troy ounces) dont know exact,

Masha is 1/8 of 1 tola.

  • Silver Kaathi of horse - Like we put that mattress on horse before sitting what we say to it silver mattress on horse on which we sit old time raja log put it on today also we put wodden mat or Kaathi on horse before sitting. Matress i think i not a perfect word but i know you understood what it is.
  • dushaley - It Means which we take on us while we sleep, like blanket etc. Thanks. (Lucky 12:51, 15 July 2008 (UTC))
    • YEs Yes it is saddle. Oh ma poor english hahahahahahaha. Hey Dushaley is not related to horse yaar we took blanket that is dushala i am not a horse hahahahaha. Well Dushaley are like chadars we took on us costly chadars. like Pillow, blanket in winter and a thin chadar in summer not shawl but this is human related thing not horse related hahahahahaha (Lucky 18:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC))

Saka Tarn Taran or Saka Nankana?

Dear Bhai sahib ji, Sat Sri Akal

I do not have an exact knowledge of this and I think at some stage I will have to invest in some good Sikh history books. At present, I only have books on the history of the Gurus. The next stage is to concentrate on other Sikh history. Sorry I can't help at present, but hopefully, I should be in a better position in about next 2/3 months.

I think women should be allowed in the panj pyares; because of cultural baggage it does not happen at present although the gora sikhs have women in the 5. regards, Hari Singhtalk 18:47, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

My Angreji

Sir actually Dhagga means Bull or Ox i am confused. Like we say i punjabi Bald, Saand, Thagga, Jhota. These four related to Ox and Bulls and it confuse me which is ox and which is bull..........LOL

Praja means people of a kingdom but no appropriate word is there in my mind. Whgat gulcharan write is there in article (Lucky 14:12, 17 July 2008 (UTC))

Angreji?

Did not understand the name Angreji, wow how fast you in India and me in the states mail would take weeks was just wondering who Gurcharan was and in what did he write the quotes, i.e. why would we list or believe him is he and author scholar? will send some other questions as i get the time to read further. let me know if i am helping w/ the article. It is a silly over retouched photo of the young Mohandas Karamchand Ghandhi. God server/slave / of God chand? of the Bania Vanias. Das richard have to go Atlanta now.

Ok Sir

Angreji means english.Send me questions if i can help i will. best of luck for atlanta trip enjoy(Lucky 18:17, 17 July 2008 (UTC))

    • Ok Great, well you also live at atlanta or somewhere else??(Lucky 18:51, 17 July 2008 (UTC))
    • Actually sir i am suffering from holidays i mean to say that holidays are on so thats why i devout my time to sikhiwiki as you know when my session will start i have to leave my native and move to hoshiarpur then i will not get the time to come on sikhiwiki. Moreover Holidays makes a person ladies if he sits at home. so these holidays makes me lazy and construction work is going on in my house so i have to stay at home as father is also at Mumbai. So after construction work i will able to go out. So i feel sleepy around 3o clock. So i think to make some new pages on social groups collecting data from various websites. Lot of Info is there on sikhs.

Sir i found that Labana have some linkage with Romanianpeople the labana people went to different land especioally in europe they are called Roma people what do you know about them? (Lucky 21:14, 17 July 2008 (UTC))

Hi

Respected Richard ji,

Sat sri akal,


I m back, how are you.


--user:sarbjeet_1313me 13:24, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Sir ji,

SSA,

i m right in saying that the nearest rivers are used for this purpose by Sikhs as directed by sikh rehet maryada also called code of conduct of sikhs.

Please see the article on Akhnoor Gurdwara again where all Jammu sikhs do Antim Ardass of the departed soul after submerging the last remains in Chenab river. Thanks.


--user:sarbjeet_1313me 06:23, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

3HO

Veer Richard ji, Sat Sri Akal

Thanks for the observation. I agree there does not seem to be any attempt to change the article 3HO but it appears that many feel that the organisation should be attacked as it "does not fit in with their normal perception" about Sikhi organisations. The other thing that a lot of punjab Sikhs don't like is the practising of yoga.

I don't think that the organisation claims to be a completely Sikh organisation like a Gurdwara so we cannot lay down any strict Sikhi rules for it. The beauty of the organisation is that it has produced Sikhs who have a deep and straight-forward understanding of Sikhi. The other thing is that yoga is actually very good for your health as I have discovered meeting specialists treating my dad.

So, I agree totally with your comments. I think they are completely misunderstood and their success makes them an easy target. regards, Hari Singhtalk 00:50, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Sat Shri Akaal Sir

Well thats result of my english nothing else. hahahaha Hahaha and you are absolutely right a person who is alive and death title thing on his biography looks odd, may god bless this captain so that he can serve more people. No peace is there in our area(Mohali), now i am moving to Hoshiarpur tomarrow. lets see whats there. (Lucky 17:27, 3 August 2008 (UTC))

Many thanks for your help with Guardian of human rights

Richard veer ji, Sat Sri Akal

I was pleasantly surprised with the great amount of work that you did on the above article. I made some small changes to this before making it a FA, I hope you done mind. As an experiment, I printed the article and got the rest of my immediate family to check it for me. It was good to get their reactions and also they get a feel for I do sitting at the computer from many hours a day.

I hope things are keeping well with you and the family and that your health is under control and that it is not causing too much discomfort. Many thanks again and your input was very useful. Also, sometimes even if you just make a few changes, it is good to know that another capable user has checked the article. That gives its own seal to the article. Good work. I hope to do a few more articles like this one to give a modern "spin" (twist?) to the history of the Gurus. I think also that the real message of the mission of the Gurus can be seen more readily seen when it is put next to the modern history of our times.

Regards and good wishes, Hari Singhtalk 12:57, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the message - I have made some changes to the Harmandar Sahib article - I hope this makes it more easier to understand. The tradition is both historic and also followed in most other Gurdwaras as the first Hukamnama is considered very relevant to the events on that day - It the Gurus word or order for the day; a prediction; a way to remember the Guru's text, etc. regards, Hari Singhtalk 22:51, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Harmandar Sahib

Hi Richard, Wow! superb work.

Yes, 'Saheb' should be changed to 'Sahib'. Gosh! Map is beautiful. I wonder which package you have used?

Turning to your questions, I am not totally familiar with all the places however, I have made the following observations:

  • 1 "Saheb" should be "sahib" in all places. Ie: title 1, 13, 14, 19 & 25
  • 2. 18 is better if it is "Guru ka Langar" not "Gurdwara ka Langar"
  • 3. 19 Dewan is better spelt Diwan
  • 4. first 25 is right - 25 should be Gurdwara Baba Atal
  • 5. 22 & 23 is repeated - delete the first 22 and 23 - leave second 22 & 23
  • 6. 23 is Guru Nanak Niwas & 24 is Guru Hargobind Niwas
  • 7. last 25 should be 27 - Gurdwara Mata Kaulan

PS: I do not think g10 ever came to amritsar - so i do not believe that any g/w associated with g10 will be found here.

Great work, Richard. Well done! regards, Hari Singhtalk 00:25, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately pdf files are not very easy to access - that is why I think your map is great. As the image may be used by other sites, i suggest that you add user:allenwala @ Sikhiwiki.com instead of just user:allenwala. Thanks for the info regarding the package. regards,Hari Singhtalk 12:20, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
That looks great. I think just the one background message "map by user [email protected]" centred in the black area would be sufficient and is not obstructive. The main point of the message is to allow people to get back to the source to suggest improvements or suggestions. I believe that most of use who contribute to Sikhiwiki are not after fame or applause although we don't mind a "little pat on the back"! However, it good to see the work being used elsewhere as we know that others are connecting with the Gurus message and that can only be beneficial to the world.
For some of my pictures, to encourage others to freely use them, I "devised" the "copyright released" symbol Copyright released.png which is another thing that you may wish to think about. Please do not let me push you in any direction. It is entirely up to you.
I think the map looks great and it is one of the best I have seen to date. well done, Hari Singhtalk 17:17, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
I think that looks just great. Brilliant work! Regards, Hari Singhtalk 23:34, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Gold

Sir,

SSA,

Great work.In hindi Golden is called Swarn.its 14th day of continues Bandh,now life is extremely difficult.


--user:sarbjeet_1313me 07:18, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Map of Harmandar Sahib

Hi Richard sahib, Sat Sri Akal

This is even better but I would also keep the first one as that has basic details. This is more detailed and so compliments the previous one.

  • It would be better to change Ber to Beri in 5,7 & 11. As beri refers to a small tree while ber implies a large tree. The trees at HMS are all small trees about 10 feet high
  • 10 should be Parikarma (encircling walkway) sorry appear to have missed this last time!
  • 22 should be Teja Singh Samundri Hall
  • 25 should be Gurdwara Baba Atal
  • 27 should be Gurdwara Mata Kaulan
  • the Entrance near Akal Takhat should be: Khazana Deori
  • the entrance opposit the main entrance should be Atta Mandi Deori

Sorry to burden you with more work; I hope you don't mind? regards, Hari Singhtalk 23:45, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Allenwalla ji,

How r u, here shutdown is still on and the situation is explosive.

You are doing a great work. Thanx. user:sarbjeet_1313me

from the surgeon's office

Hi Richard, Sat Sri Akal

Thanks for the message and suggestion of Amrita Sher-Gil for FA. Also great to know there is no injury/ but obviously concerned about the spots? - whatever they are - hope they can get rid of these. Wish you well - let us know how things progress.

Dad's on physio and improving a little bit every few days. We are told that the fall "moved his vertebrate" from their "semi-fused" position so this with muscle strain has resulted in the pain. It is becoming a little bit easier as he can move with a frame. Thanks for asking.

Harmandar Sahib - I agree, this article is getting pretty good and the details are becoming intense. unfortunately could not find mamtee. Is the pavillion near Baba Deep Singh memorial one of the womens areas? yes, i believe so. The women bathing areas are along the parikarma and they are near 9, opposite side (of sarovar) of 9 and at 7.

Shish Mahal - The main structure rises from the center of the sacred pool and is approached by a long causeway. The 52-meter, square-based Hari Mandir stands on a square platform, its lower parts marble, and its upper portion fully covered with plates of gilded copper. In the interior, on the ground, the Guru Granth Sahib (holy book of the Sikhs) is placed under a jewel-studded canopy. On the first floor is a small pavilion called the Shish Mahal (mirror room). It is ornamented with pieces of mirrors inlaid in the ceiling and walls. Above is another smaller pavilion. Exquisite murals adorn the walls of the pavilions, but other than that, the emphasis is on simplicity.

Har-i-Pauri The shrine is open from ail four sides and has a passage all around it. Towards the eastern side are the flights of steps, known as `har- ki pauri' descending into the sarovar structure appended to the main shrine. The staircase adjoining the `har-ki-pauri' leads to the first floor of the shrine. There is a small square pavilion surrounded by a low fluted golden dome in this storey. also The Har ki Pauri is the place to be visited after the Ardas prayer. It is on the southern side of the inner parkarma. There is a marble staircase leading into the sarowar. Visitors stop here to sprinkle water from this sacred pool into their heads. One can drink a little bit of water for its remedial power also. 1

Plan: I will try and do a plan from memory or get someone in Amritsar to do one. There are 3 floors;

Sarovar: One can walk from one side to the other side. From the parikarma, the floor drops in steps; then the floor is flat until you get to the other side. Will try and hyperlink to flickr photos.

I see that the massive row of arches that support the causeway and temple must be 12ft or more high - yes it is at least 12 feet and perhap 15 feet deep as a max once you past the steps. Regards, Hari Singhtalk 18:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for the changes to the aerial photo - the photo makes a better impact now. unfortunately not my photo but found on the net. I will try and scan the net for more. They are difficult to find as the indexing is not very good and you are lumbered with 1000's of photos.

From the Langar deori, if you move north, the Sarovar is on your left and Jallianwala bagh will approah as you continue northward to the right. See this not very good map.

could one walk through under the causeway when drained - No.

Their is only a mention to the front door of Guru Nanak Dev with GUr Gobind Singh on the "Blue" horse above, but no pictures. - there was resistance to pictures generally in the early days due to the possibility of worship which was prevalent with other religions.

Am told the white spots can indicate M.S., but the Spinal tap will tell. - Hope its nothing serious. May Waheguru bless us all. Regards, Hari Singhtalk 21:16, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

ssa

Hi

SSA

how r u?

I've seen the pic of Bhai Saalo article... I saw how nicely u edited that pic and its perspectives... Can i ask, how u did it? I really wanna know, since i have some pics like that and want to correct them..

SSA


ssa

ssa

oh cool

yes, i do have photoshop program.. thanks again..

SSA

Sunnybondsinghjalwehra 21:31, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Sikh Review

Richard ji, Sat Sri Akal

Sorry, the "computational stuff" is due to the error in the way non-Unicode characters display in SikhiWiki (SW). I have manually changed these to unicode and they are infact gurmukhi characters. My apology for this over sight and as soon as I looked at the text at SW, I recognised the characters. I read the original article at Sikh review and then transferred to SW and had not realised the error. Many thanks for your help and keen eye.

However, I do not understand the "many sentences that don't compute or complete the thought they started out with" - I will read at article again tonight and revert back to you.

"fleshly desires" - Probably referring to the exotic text and pictures of kama sut**, etc. regards, Hari Singhtalk 13:28, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Lions, etc

Hi Richard ji, Sat Sri Akal

I have commented-out the previous content of the talk page - I cannot understand how it got there - may be it was just an error by the user?

I note the points that you make and I agree that more needs to be added to this article as it involves various important messages relating to Sikhi and its principles. Hunting can be sport and it can also be for protection of the villagers living in the vicinity of the hunted animal. I feel that in those days, the safety aspect was probably more important but I am no expert in relation to this topic. If I find any further literature on this point, I will try and remember to update this page. Many thanks again. regards, Hari Singhtalk 21:38, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

hello Sir

how are you....m fine. Pandtani means Female pundit and Pundit we refer to priest of Hindu or Jain temples. we pronounce it as Pund-Taaani.

(drawings, room by room - elevations or plan views, even photos of the Sheesh Mahaal and the staircase on the interior) actually i am not understanding what actually you are demanding. well in harimandir sahib main building the sewadaars do not allow cameras. Even mobiles have to put on silent. If somebuddy click foto by mistake they dispose the camera reel or del the foto from digi cam.

i come to home in weekends, there the study days are going on, we go to college come home sleep then do some homework then study then city tour then food then come to home then net for sometime then study(if heart wills) then sleep then again wake up in next day. (Lucky 06:26, 24 August 2008 (UTC))

hello Sir

ill fix tht karachi page..... i dont knoz the anszers to the kara story... ill ask to somebody... regards sunny


Gud Evening

thanx 4 the necessary corrections Sarbjeet Singh

Shaheed Bhagat Singh

Hi Richard ji, Sat Sri Akal

Done as requested. Great article and also learnt something new - that SBS took amrit in jail! Thanks, Hari Singhtalk 22:57, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


SUTDOWN

Sir,

I HV MIXED BOTH THE ARTICLES AND RECOMMENDED THE SECOND ONE FOR DELETION.

TODAY IS THE CONTINUES 39 THE DAY OF COMPLETE SUTDOWN HERE [BANDH]

SSA TO ALL.

--user:sarbjeet_1313me 04:52, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Bhagat Singh & Bhagat Ravidas

Hi Richard ji, Sat Sri Akal

Thanks for the messages - I have seen the pictures of Bhagat Singh and at the site that you mentioned. It is interesting that he took amrit in jail before becoming a martyr - I hope that was the case, for his sake. If not than he is still a celebrated person in this world. I do not believe that being an atheist is a situation that is acceptable when you look at all the "coincidences" that appear to take place for life to sustain in this hostile universe.

Regarding Bhagat Ravidas, I believe that we have seen the actions of a fanatic called chainganag47 who believes that Bhagat is a word that demeans Ravidas who is part of our Guru Granth Sahib. I fail to follow his point and due to his fanaticism, he has not made it easy for himself and he has thus failed to express his point in a sensible, controlled or meaningful manner.

Many thanks for your help with both the above topics. regards, Hari Singhtalk 01:26, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

I have checked the Bhagat Singh statue article and its seems fine to me - excellent work with lots of details - well researched - the matter dealing with his "new found" interest in Sikhi is covered well. Many thanks for your great effort and also for the comment about the violations by user Chaingang. Kind regards, Hari Singhtalk 22:32, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Your plan is on the mainpage

Richard ji, Sat Sri Akal

Your plan of the Golden temple has made it to the mainpage. Congratulations. It is a beautifully done plan and I am sure that it will be used by many millions of Sikhs and non-Sikhs to explore this wonderful "shrine of God". Many thanks again for your dedication and relentless effort. Hari Singhtalk 12:48, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanx

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Thanx again for improving the picture Bunga Ramgarhia History

--SINGH Kalsi 16:28, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanx Again

Thanx Again !!!!!!!!!!!!!

--SINGH Kalsi 17:20, 3 September 2008 (UTC)