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Odd that the list titled Rajput includes the '''Iris, the Javanese, the Scottish and the Zulus''' all are races which though in several differing colonies of the British Empire, earned the respect of British soldiers and their commanders as warriors-or worthy adversaries. [[User:Allenwalla|Allenwalla]] 09:10, 22 September 2009 (UTC)


The film '''Zulu'''  [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zulu_(film)] depicts the Battle of Rorke's Drift between the British Army and the Zulus in January 1879, during the Anglo-Zulu War. A small group of British soldiers held off thousands of Zulus who ended up  honoring the British  as admirable, worthy valorous warriers.
Kasgarli Mahmut was 11th century scholar from Kashgar. He explained the word TARKHAN in the following way:
"It is a name given before the Islamic religion. It means prince (Bey, Umar) in Arghu language"
It is clear the word Tarkhan was not pure Turkish and that it was adopted into Turkish from the old language of Sogdiana. This was proved in the Turkish dictionary Divan u Lugat it-Turk written by Kasgarli Mahmut. Sogd was a name of a nation who settled in Balasagun. These were of the Sogd race. Sogd lay between Bukhara and Samarqand. Sogdia (/ˈsɒɡdiə/) or Sogdiana was an ancient Iranian civilization.


'''Definitely a warrior's film.'''
Historian  H. Beveridge in his paper titled Tarkhan and Tarquinius points out that real etymology of Tarkhan is lost.
 
== Tarkhan ==
 
As it states Tarkhans being present in Timur Lane's army. However,this is wrong for Tarkhans of Indian Subcontinent. As Tarkhans were present way before Timur Lane's attacks.
For example:
 
Tarkhan Nizak a King of Baghdis (around 650 AD)
Tarkhan of Samarkand (7th century)
Tarkhan Dynasty of Gilgit (7-8th century)


Beveridge, Isaac Taylor, C. R. Condor and J. G. R. Farlong in their writings all agree that Tarkhan, Tarkan and Tarquin are same. Lucius Tarquinius Priscus, or Tarquin the Elder, was the legendary fifth king of Rome from 616 to 579 BC.
   
   
Hiuen Tsang a Chinese traveller (602-664AD) also makes mention of various Tarkhans in his travel writings
Tarkhan was used among the Hittites (1700BCE- 1200BCE) to refer the tribal Chiefs. Also the the Kassites (1531BCE-1155 BCE) had god called Tartakhan. 


Chebishi Tarkhan in Gandhara Kingdom in 753 AD
In Era's of Humanity by Genealogy,  Brian Starr writes about Kama Tarkhan of Huns.
Hiuen Tsang, a Chinese traveller of 7th century AD also mentions various Tarkhans in Indian subcontinent such as Tarkhan of Samarkand, a meeting between king and 200 Tarkhans.


Kasgarli Mehmut a 11th century Historian defined word TARKHAN of being SOGDIAN Language, centuries before Timur.
S. Kuwayama makes the mention of Chebishi Tarkhan who along with Tafu Tegin was sent to court of Tang Dynasty by King of Gandhara in 753 AD.


I can provide you references and citation.
Tarkhan Dynasty ruled over Gilgit in 7th and 8th century and was founded by a prince from Badakhshan. Further, founders of Maglot dynasty of Nagar and Ayash dynasty of Hunza were both Tarkhan princes.


I can be contacted here or at tarkhanhistory@gmail.com
Khodadad Rezakhani of Freie Universität (Berlin) in the paper titled Continuity and Change in Late Antique Irān: An Economic View of the Sasanians writes:
"These are the famous Nezak Tarkhans who claimed descent from the Alkhon king Khingila (Grenet 2002: 218). We know that these Tarkhans controlled the passes across the Hindukush both to Bamiyan and also to Kabul, via the Panjshir Valley (Baker and Allchin 1991)."


The town named Tarkhan in Egypt has been a site of various archeological diggings, some which were as old as 4000 BCE  and oldest woven piece of cloth called Tarkhan Dress.
In the town of Chal Tarkhan (Iran) many artifacts were found belonging to Sassanian Period (224 to 651 AD).
Tarkhankut is name of peninsula in Ukraine and there are various places named Tarkhan in Russia.


Thank you --[[User:Tarquin|Tarquin]] ([[User talk:Tarquin|talk]]) 07:14, 26 September 2019 (MDT)
In modern times, most of Tarkhans of North India follow Sikhism and speak Punjabi, a Indo-European language.--[[User:Tarquin|Tarquin]] ([[User talk:Tarquin|talk]]) 17:21, 2 October 2019 (MDT)

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Kasgarli Mahmut was 11th century scholar from Kashgar. He explained the word TARKHAN in the following way: "It is a name given before the Islamic religion. It means prince (Bey, Umar) in Arghu language" It is clear the word Tarkhan was not pure Turkish and that it was adopted into Turkish from the old language of Sogdiana. This was proved in the Turkish dictionary Divan u Lugat it-Turk written by Kasgarli Mahmut. Sogd was a name of a nation who settled in Balasagun. These were of the Sogd race. Sogd lay between Bukhara and Samarqand. Sogdia (/ˈsɒɡdiə/) or Sogdiana was an ancient Iranian civilization.

Historian H. Beveridge in his paper titled Tarkhan and Tarquinius points out that real etymology of Tarkhan is lost.

Beveridge, Isaac Taylor, C. R. Condor and J. G. R. Farlong in their writings all agree that Tarkhan, Tarkan and Tarquin are same. Lucius Tarquinius Priscus, or Tarquin the Elder, was the legendary fifth king of Rome from 616 to 579 BC.

Tarkhan was used among the Hittites (1700BCE- 1200BCE) to refer the tribal Chiefs. Also the the Kassites (1531BCE-1155 BCE) had god called Tartakhan.

In Era's of Humanity by Genealogy, Brian Starr writes about Kama Tarkhan of Huns. Hiuen Tsang, a Chinese traveller of 7th century AD also mentions various Tarkhans in Indian subcontinent such as Tarkhan of Samarkand, a meeting between king and 200 Tarkhans.

S. Kuwayama makes the mention of Chebishi Tarkhan who along with Tafu Tegin was sent to court of Tang Dynasty by King of Gandhara in 753 AD.

Tarkhan Dynasty ruled over Gilgit in 7th and 8th century and was founded by a prince from Badakhshan. Further, founders of Maglot dynasty of Nagar and Ayash dynasty of Hunza were both Tarkhan princes.

Khodadad Rezakhani of Freie Universität (Berlin) in the paper titled Continuity and Change in Late Antique Irān: An Economic View of the Sasanians writes: "These are the famous Nezak Tarkhans who claimed descent from the Alkhon king Khingila (Grenet 2002: 218). We know that these Tarkhans controlled the passes across the Hindukush both to Bamiyan and also to Kabul, via the Panjshir Valley (Baker and Allchin 1991)."

The town named Tarkhan in Egypt has been a site of various archeological diggings, some which were as old as 4000 BCE and oldest woven piece of cloth called Tarkhan Dress. In the town of Chal Tarkhan (Iran) many artifacts were found belonging to Sassanian Period (224 to 651 AD). Tarkhankut is name of peninsula in Ukraine and there are various places named Tarkhan in Russia.

In modern times, most of Tarkhans of North India follow Sikhism and speak Punjabi, a Indo-European language.--Tarquin (talk) 17:21, 2 October 2019 (MDT)