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Naam in Mul Mantar

I think SikhiWiki illustration on Naam in Mul Mantar needs a through discourse.

Alternative views should also be displayed until there is consensus

From my perspective, Naam simply means the attributes of God. For example the two clear and easy attributes mentioned in Mul Mantar are Nirbhau and Nirvair.

Naam Japna simply means to live ones' life according to these attributes as a way to attain oneness with God.

There are many other attributes of Naam illustrated in Sri Guru Granth Sahib and Jaap Sahib.

Posting sent by email by: LTC (Retd) Gurbachan Singh presently in Ottawa.

Muul Mn3r encapsulates 10 Attributes

1. A WriterAbhai (talk) : Lord TRUTH is a Writer. writes~~ every one's Destiny (All Gurus and other writersof Gurbani had been relentless WritersAbhai (talk)) 2. A Creator : 3. A Saint  : 4. Fearless 5. Friend (of even Foes) 6. Punctual 7. KHALSA (Living Idol of Lord TRUTH, One Worded True Name of who so ever calls himself a Sikh) 8. Missionary 9. Self-Made 10. Gurbani Pro

In plain English True and Formal Name(ID) of A Sikh is .....

A Writer~~ Creator Saint Singh Fearless Friend, the Punctual KHALSA Missionary Self-Made through Gurbani's Grace

1 OAbhai (talk) (ikk O AnkaarAbhai (talk) 19:33, 23 July 2017 (MDT)) has two Parts parallel modern day Machine Language of '1 0' (TRUE FALSE)  :-

Ikk..........repersents 'Lord TRUTH' with no attributes. AnkaarAbhai (talk) 19:33, 23 July 2017 (MDT)...Third word of Gurbani Language meaning 'Writer'. It represents above 10 attributes of Lord TRUTH which get reflected through THY True (not of Stone) living worship worthy Idol Khalsa

This pair in Gurbani Language be read as "Nirnkaar-AnkaarAbhai (talk)" (Lord TRUTH-Idol of Lord TRUTH)

'Modern Perspective of TRUE NAME'

THY TRUE Name is....> 1/A/An/ONE/TRUE/TRUTH MY TRUE Name is :-

Title : A Writer~~

Job Title: Creator

First Name : Gentleman

Middle Name : Singh

Last Name : Friend

Family Name : Khalsa Suffix : Self-Made Missionary Gurbani Pro

Naam in Gurbani

Thank you , just adding more to it. Gurbani is dictionary of itself:

Let's Ask Gurbani what is Naam

Gurbani replied

1)

ਏਕੋ ਨਾਮੁ ਹੁਕਮੁ ਹੈ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਦੀਆ ਬੁਝਾਇ ਜੀਉ ॥੫॥
एको नामु हुकमु है नानक सतिगुरि दीआ बुझाइ जीउ ॥५॥
Ėko nām hukam hai Nānak saṯgur ḏī▫ā bujẖā▫e jī▫o. ||5||
The One Name is the Lord's Command; O Nanak, the True Guru has given me this understanding. ||5|| ਏਕੋ ਨਾਮੁ = ਹੁਕਮੁ ਹੈ

2)

ਪ੍ਰੇਮ ਪਦਾਰਥੁ ਨਾਮੁ ਹੈ ਭਾਈ ਮਾਇਆ ਮੋਹ ਬਿਨਾਸੁ ॥
प्रेम पदारथु नामु है भाई माइआ मोह बिनासु ॥
Parem paḏārath nām hai bẖā▫ī mā▫i▫ā moh binās.
The Love of the Name is the greatest treasure, O Siblings of Destiny; through it, emotional attachment to Maya is dispelled.

ਪ੍ਰੇਮ ਪਦਾਰਥੁ = ਨਾਮੁ ਹੈ

3)

ਗੁਰ ਗਿਆਨੁ ਪਦਾਰਥੁ ਨਾਮੁ ਹੈ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੋ ਦੇਇ ਦ੍ਰਿੜਾਇ ॥ गुर गिआनु पदारथु नामु है हरि नामो देइ द्रिड़ाइ ॥ Gur gi▫ān paḏārath nām hai har nāmo ḏe▫e driṛ▫ā▫e. The wisdom of the Guru is the treasure of the Naam. The Guru implants and enshrines the Lord's Name.

ਗਿਆਨੁ ਪਦਾਰਥੁ = ਨਾਮੁ ਹੈ


4)


ਐਸਾ ਗਿਆਨੁ ਪਦਾਰਥੁ ਨਾਮੁ ॥
ऐसा गिआनु पदारथु नामु ॥
Aisā gi▫ān paḏārath nām.
Such is the spiritual wisdom, the treasure of the Naam;

ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਪਾਵਸਿ ਰਸਿ ਰਸਿ ਮਾਨੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
गुरमुखि पावसि रसि रसि मानु ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥
Gurmukẖ pāvas ras ras mān. ||1|| rahā▫o.
obtaining it, the Gurmukhs enjoy the subtle essence of this nectar. ||1||Pause|


ਗਿਆਨੁ ਪਦਾਰਥੁ = ਨਾਮੁ

In Whole Shabads we have two type of Naam:
1) Gyaan Padarath (Wisdom) - Related to Gurbani, Guru Granth Sahib
2) Hukam (Surat Shabad Bhavsagar Tariyey) - Direct connection of Surat with Shabad.

Gyaan is also Hukam. Gyan is related to Prem. Whom you love is due to Gyan. Here it is divine love

  • Naam directly conveys Hukam. Naam Jappna, means to understand the Hukam because HUKAM BOOJH PARAM PAD PAAYI.

and right Attributes of Naam(Hukam) are many, somewhere he is driver (Khasam Hath Nakk Nath). somewhere it is killer (Darha agrey pritham dhrayan), somewhere it is nurisher (palanhaar golpal) etc

Bhul Chuk Maaf

(HarpreetSingh 14:06, 17 May 2012 (CDT))

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Where does Mool Mantar end?

A user added the following section to the Mool Mantar article:

"There is controversy over whether the Mool Mantar stops at "Gurprasad" or continues with "Jap" on to the first numeral. Sikh scholars are divided and arguments favoring either case have been made. The results of a google search will show examples."

Yes, there is a difference of opinion as to where the Mool Mantar ends, I would say 'most' people have suggested that 'Jap' is the title and commencement of the Bani - JapJi Sahib.

I've taken the section out because rather than suggesting readers to do a "google search" can we not have this info on the site? For the user who added this, please register and become a regular contributer to help build the SikhiWiki website!--Navroop Singh 04:33, 13 May 2005 (Central Daylight Time)

As per Darpan by Prof Sahib Singh

  • 1. Heading. Mool Mantar ends at ...gur parshad. Being the Heading for the entire text of SGGS, no serial No has been alloted to it.
  • 2. Opening Shalok. Next Pad commencing with aad sach... & ending at ...Bhi sach, is an opening Shalok for Bani titled Jap. An independent Serial 1 has been alloted to this Shlok. It is an amplification of 'ik Om Kaar Sat Naam'.
  • 3. Bani Jap(u). Next the set of 38 Pads, serially numbered from 1 through 38, are covered under the Heading Jap(u).
  • 4. Concluding Shalok . Pawan guru... ...Naal. is the Shalok summing up the theme of complete Bani of 38 Paudis.

Amita Singh 10 Nov 05 Delhi

Ek / Oankaar

A recent user deleted a section of the mool mantar article discussing the significance of the numeral one, 'Ek'. I've as a result split the section into two headings - 'Ek' and 'Oankaar'. If you're going to make an edit like that, please can you register and also explain your reasons on this discussion page.--Navroop Singh 04:36, 13 May 2005 (Central Daylight Time)

Original Gurmukhi Text

1. Recommended that the following text, not forming the part of Mool Mantar, be deleted

॥ ਜਪ੝ ॥ ਆਦਿ ਸਚ੝ ਜ੝ਗਾਦਿ ਸਚ੝ ॥ ਹੈ ਭੀ ਸਚ੝ ਨਾਨਕ ਹੋਸੀ ਭੀ ਸਚ੝ ॥1॥

Amita Singh Delhi 26 Nov 05

30 yrs?

"The Mool Mantar is said to be the first composition uttered by Guru Nanak Dev ji upon enlightenment at the age of 30......."

Jo Boly (Bitter Truths) so Nihal


User: Mutia June 8,2007


1 Year 3 Moths plus?

Spirit of Your TrueName ordains...

  • True Sikh.s can never keep quit
  • Speaking the unspoken is True Strength
  • Gajj ky (Gurbani) Bolo
  • Jo Boly so Nihallllllllllllllll
  • Demonstrate Obedience of Hukm

Sikhs & Sikh. Scholars seem to be Demonstrating Obediance of Hukm by keeping quiet.

Compilation

"is the most important composition" It is not a compilation. It is just the Opening Sentence in StiGurBani language wherein Nanak Sahib addresses his Sikh Angand telling him to commence writing the composition 'Jpu'

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