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== Sikh religion ==
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== Task and To-dos for Building SikhiWiki ==
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.
SikhiWiki is just being developed and we need your help to actually brainstorm and organizing the website. Feel free to add to this list or just comment. Click on the &quot;Edit&quot; or &quot;Edit this page&quot; at the top to give your input. Please also add your signature (if you are [[Special:Userlogin|registered]]) by clicking on the &quot;signature&quot; button above the edit box so that as people add comments we know who is who. --[[User:Gmustuk|gmustuk]] 10:45, 25 Feb 2005


Dear users, when making an amendments (changes) please ensure that you use a high standard of English and strong Grammar. I have read several articles on this site, and have found many spelling mistakes and the grammar is that compared to a child of 11 year of age.
Today is my 1st day at this forum and so excuse me for all the mistakes I make while writing my questions.


== Content & Editorial ==
I work in a public school system in Virginia and is the only Sikh male maintaining my sikhi saroop in the system. I have a teacher who is doing masters in Religion Studies and so is interested in the answers of his following question about Sikhism. I would greatly appreciate help from anyone who can answer any of his questions at the earliest possible. I do not fully understand his questions and also not that good in English and so seek your help.  
*'''[[CATEGORIES]]''' - Ideas needed for coming up with a Hierarchy of Categories for organizing the topics. Some people will do searches...but we want to have a browseable category list (with subcategories) so that people can go through the articles without having something specific in mind.  
*'''CONTENT''' - We need people who can help in a variety of ways. There is a lot of work to be done to get the base of the website started.  


We would like to encourage you to come participate and be a part of SikhiWiki. There are many ways that you can contribute. Here are a few:
Here under is the teacher's email to me.
**'''Collect/write articles which can be posted online''' (and get written permission if necessary) - This can be articles from the current time (not necessarily from the Guru's time). History is happening now and every day!
** '''Add individual articles to website''' - If you already have articles you can add them to SikhiWiki.
**'''Cross link related articles''' - Most of the articles will have words that relate to other articles. We want to create cross links so that when reading you can read related information. (See the article on Harmandir Sahib as an example. )
**'''Add pictures to articles''' - Do you have a collection of pictures? You could go through and add pictures that relate to existing articles.
**'''Add sound and other media to articles''' - You can upload Gurbani mp3 clips, lectures or other related multi media.
**'''Categorizing all articles for easy browsing and organization''' - Every article should be assigned a category so that they can be organized. You can help categorize them.
**'''Beautify/Format the articles''' - You can help make the pages look beautiful, by formatting the articles.
**Add article and pictures about the meaning of &quot;Ardas&quot;. [http://www.sikhiwiki.org/tempcontent/Ardas%20illustratedandmeaning.zip Download 11MB compressed word document] | [http://www.sikhiwiki.org/tempcontent/Ardas%20illustratedandmeaning.doc uncompressed word document]


*'''CONTENT RESOURCE''' - Different sources which we can use to get starting content for the website.
Hi Mr. Singh,
**[http://www.sacred-texts.com/skh/tsr1/ The Sikh Religion - Volume 1] - ''by Max Arthur MacAuliffe.''
*'''MODERATORS''' - Find and setup list of individuals that are committed to this project and willing to spend time adding content and reviewing content that others add.


== System Related  ==
This is Beau Obetts from Yorktown. I had asked you if I could interview you for a class I am taking about religion since we need to interview people of different faiths. If you are okay with this, could you please send me answers to the questions listed below in the next few days? If you would rather do an in person interview that is fine too, just let me know when you are available. Also, if you can't do it, please let me know as soon as possible. Finally, if there are any questions you feel uncomfortable answering please feel free to skip them. Thanks for your help. Beau
* '''Finish customizing these pages:''' [[Boilerplate_request_for_permission]] AND [[SikhiWiki:Copyrights]]
* '''CSS Underline link problem''' - The default seems to have changed - underline links. I figured out that when you are not logged in the underline on navigator links is not there. When you login it default &quot;underline links&quot; (in &quot;Preferences&quot; - &quot;Misc Settings&quot;). We should have it default to &quot;no underline&quot;
* '''CATEGORY SELECTION''' - In order to facilitate the organization of the articles we should provide a drop down list of categories that people can select. So if they create a new article they can easily select one or more categories for that article. Otherwise most people will not put a category..or it will require someone else to categorize it at a later time.


* '''SIKHIWIKI LINK IMAGES''' - Create a set of SikhiWiki images and HTML which can be downloaded and used on other Sikh Websites. Also be able to do a search.
1) What are some of the main rules your religion gives for living an ethical life? How do you go about living a good life? Are there rules your religion accepts that you reject?
2) What does your religion say about salvation and the afterlife? What do you believe about the afterlife?
3) How does your religion deal with the question "Why do good things happen to bad people?" <br>Do you accept any of the answers offered by your religion? If not, how would you address the issue?
4) Are there any other ways that your personal belief differs from the official doctrine of your religion?
5) Do you have any favorite passage(s) from the scripture of your religion? If so, why does it appeal to you?


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Satgurji Aap Sab Te Mehar Karan Ji.
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh


== WikiPakistan ==
Rajinder Singh


I am the founder of WikiPakistan (http://pakistan.wikicities.com/) and also help here when there is something I can do. I just added some text to http://pakistan.wikicities.com/wiki/Minorities . Please take a look--and feel free to add/edit/correct/etc.
* Please read the reply [[User talk:Rsb.apb|''' here''']]


[[User:IFaqeer|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:IFaqeer|iFaqeer]] [[User talk:IFaqeer|(Talk to me!)]] 01:59, 5 Oct 2005 (Central Daylight Time)
== 2nd battle of Chamkaur (transferred from Help:Format a page by HS) ==


We are pleased to note an exhaustive account of battle of Chamkaur Sahib in your esteemed Sikhiwiki website. Indeed it is a painstaking work from your side. We congratulate you over this magnificent outcome.


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The period of 2nd battle of Chamkaur is 21,22 and 23 Dec., l705. In Bikrmi, it is 6,7,8 Poh l76l The Evacuation of Anandpur Sahib is on the night of 20th Dec., l705. The 300th year Martyrdom celebrations of two elder Sahibzadas were commemorated on 2l,22 and 23 December 2004, at Chamkaur Sahib, at National level, by Panjab Government led by Capt. Amarinder Singh. Similarly, the300th year Martyrdom celebrations of two younger Sahibzadas of Guru Gobind Singh were commemorated in the last week of Dec.,2004 at Fatehgarh Sahib (Sirhind)


I am editing the entry on [[Khalistan]] and using the <nowiki><ref></nowiki> tag to place references. Please see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cite/Cite.php for details on the tagging.  I have successfully used the tagging at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalistan]
Sikhiwiki website needs some corrections in Second Battle of Chamkaur Sahib. We mention as under:-


I would appreciate if someone at SikhiWiki can help me resolve.[[User:Zafarnamah|Zafarnamah]] 12:03, 23 January 2006 (Central Standard Time)
1. Wazir Khan (Suba Sirhind) did not participate in this battle. Mughal Generals –Nahar Khan, Gairat Khan and Khawaja Mohammed Murdud participated in this battle. 2. Departure of Guru’s entourage from Anandpur Sahib is on 20th Dec.,l705 in the night. 3. Battle at Sarsa rivulet is at the dawn of 2lst Dec.,l705. It is few miles away from Kiratpur Sahib towards Ropar. Parwar Vichhora happened in that commotion.


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4. Arrival at Chamkaur is in the afternoon of 2lst Dec.,l705. 5. Guru along with two elder Sahibzadas , 5 Piaras and 40 Sikhs took charge of Kachi Garhi of Chamkaur in the evening of 21st Dec., l705. 6. The distance between Ropar and Chamkaur Sahib is l6 KMs. 7. Kachi Garhi was owned by Bhai Budhi Chand and some record it of Chaudhry Roop Chand and Jagat Singh. The descendents of Roop Chand and Jagat Singh are still there in Chamkaur Sahib. 8. Guru Gobind Singh visited Chamkaur in l759(Bikrmi) for the first time, 2 years before the 2nd battle of Chamkaur. At the behest of hilly Rajas, a Mughal contingent led by Sardar Sayad Beg and Alif Khan attacked Guru in l759(Bikrmi) , at a place called Ranjitgarh in Chamkaur. They were defeated by the Sikhs. 9. The Kachi Garhi was besieged by l0 lac Mughal Army. Guru has himself penned in the Zafarnamah.There should be no doubt in it. This battle was fought by Mughals along with hilly Rajas.Ere to it, several battles had taken place between Guru and Mughals in the past. The Mughals were aware of Guru’s strength. Hence this strength. 10. When Saragarhi post of 2l soldiers could be attacked by l0,000 Pathans in l897 why it cannot be l0 lacs in battle of Chamkaur. To conjecture a figure of 700 or l000, in the siege of Kachi Garhi is not a justice to the unique battle of Chamkaur. 11. The figure and names of 40 martyrs of Kachi Garhi as given by S. Kahan Singh Nabha are taken as authentic. Figure given by SGPC in 2004 was not in fact correct. It was later withdrawn by SGPC itself. The credible figure of martyrs is 40 Sikhs and two Sahibzadas. In the Theme Park of Chamkaur 42 Pillars of Rock installed in the Open Air Theatre, are indication of that. 12. Vastar and Shastar and Kalgi was given to Bhai Sangat Singh by Guru Gobind Singh at the time of leaving Kachi Garhi of Chamkaur. From History point, it is now a settled issue. 13. On 23rd Dec., the day of l705, Bhai Sangat Singh alongwith other remaining Sikhs sacrificed their lives in the battlefield of Chamkaur. 14. While leaving Chamkaur at dead of night of 22-23 Dec.,l705, Guru uttered the words “Peer-e-hind mei ravad.” The same site is now known as Tari Sahib a few furlong from Gurudwara Katil Garh Sahib,Chamkaur. 15. The Saka Chamkaur Theme Park is in ruins. Its Construction is stalled since 2007. Politics has taken toll of it.


Maanyog Hari Singhji
Kindly examine the above at your end.
WKWF
First of all, I must apologize for having been absent from SikhiWiki for a rather long spell. Having finished my exams, I had been (and still am) busy looking for a job. But henceforth, I hope to be more regular in my duty to the Guru. Will keep in touch.
Thank you
Regards
Amita Singh
[[User:Mutia|Mutia]]


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Sri Chamkaur Sahib Development Forum is engaged in the all round development of the historic town and elaqa, since December 2003. Despite setbacks,it has, at its credit, a legacy of good work done. Thanks, Yours sincerely,


Lots of characters are now messed up and Unicode has stopped working.  It appears as if the database is stored as UTF-8, but accessed as Latin and then sent again as Unicode.  Please fix this. [[User:Sukh|Sukh]] 16:55, 15 June 2006 (Central Daylight Time) <!-- ???? -->
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== Kara and the Sacred Thread? ==


Main page has become very interesting with lots of picturesque illustrations and choice of topics either being of current nature or having historic or heritage value.these are very good points .
I was born into a Sikh family. As I grew up, I was forced to take Punjabi classes and Kirtan classes at my local Gurdwara. As a result, I also learned a lot about my religion; I’ve attended lectures, read books and biographies and been to spiritual classes. And after all that, I have to say, I still don’t completely believe in my religion.  


But at the same time for users having low band width for internet (this is true for users in  india where still band widths are low for large segment of internet users who belong  to medium class or are students );it is practically not possible to open even the starting main page of sikhiwiki encyclopaedia.In my opinion main page should be on the pattern of Google site which opens very fast compared to other sites like Yahoo etc.User may not thus be able to fully exploit the features but will at least  develop a hunger to look for other illustarted pages and will be prompted to go to an internet resource where he is able to get higher band width to fully exploit all features of encyclopaedia.Aim should be richness of content of the  sikh encyclopaedia but at the same time exponential growth of no of users like other wikipedia in all parts of the world.
Guru Nanak Dev Ji, said the words, “Na ko-ee Hindu, Na ko-ee Musalman,” which means, No one is hindu, no one is muslim. His meaning was to explain that everyone is equal. There is no religion that divides us; we are all human.  


Let some more users ponder over this and statistics about additions of users to sikhiwiki be watched before taking any corrective action about decision of Main page content by the Administrators.--[[User:Guglani|Guglani]] 04:28, 6 November 2006 (MST)
So my question is, why on earth would he go start a new religion? That would simply cause further divide, and he was trying to get people to unite. His message was simply to love everyone, love one god, and help the poor and needy.  


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There is a story about Guru Nanak Dev Ji that I remember particularly well, and it’s called “The Sacred Thread.” The story explains that Guru Nanak Dev Ji, who was born into a Hindu family, was supposed to tie this thread around his wrist for religious purposes during a religious ceremony. However, he stopped the priest and asked him, “How is this thread sacred? Will it go with me when I go to God when I die? I will wear something that goes with my soul if you have it, for otherwise it is meaningless.” Now I don’t remember the exact phrasing he said, but that was the general idea.  
Let Hukumnama([[COMMANDMENTS of 'TRUTH'|TRUTH god's Commandment of the day]]) stand out as No 1 item on the Main Page [[User:Mutia]] 07 Nov06
==Grammatical Errors on Main Page==
Recommended that 'We wishes all our Christians brothers and sisters a very Merry Christmas.' be changed to 'We wish all our Christian brothers and sisters a very Merry Christmas.'
::Hi, Amita, Many thanks for spotting that! - The message started with "SikhiWiki wishes our ..." but due to space limitation "Sikhiwiki" was changed to "We" but the word "wishes" was unfortunately not changed .... Many thanks for keeping a keen eye on things. I think that shows that I need to have a rest - Goodnight! --[[User:Hari singh|Hari Singh]] 22:07, 23 December 2006 (MST)
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Now compare this to the Sikh Kara… and ask the same questions. It won’t go with you when you die. It is simply a bracelet.  


* It is expected to make the editing followed by save process, easier.  
Of course you could make the argument that it is the symbolic meaning of the Kara that makes people wear it. But comparing it to Guru Nanak Dev Ji and the sacred thread, I see far too many similarities between them. I’m sure the sacred thread had an important meaning too, but as Guru Nanak Dev Ji explained, it was simply that, a meaning, and not really sacred.  


At the end of the day, it is simply a bracelet that you wear, and doesn’t reflect your soul that will go to God and be judged. I believe you should wear the meanings you want to reflect in this world on your soul and try to live true to them, for those will be judged when we leave this Earth. If God exists, that is; but that’s another discussion.


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Yet Sikhi has changed so much from Guru Nanak Dev Ji to Guru Gobind Singh Ji, who had introduced Khalsa, and the five K’s, including the Kara.


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I can understand that it was a different time and Guru Gobind Singh Ji wanted symbols to unite his people, but regardless of that fact, I don’t believe true followers of Guru Nanak Dev Ji, or Sikhs, should try to divide themselves from everyone else, for as he said, we are all one.  
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Sikhism as presented by Guru Nanak Dev Ji, provides me more insight into life than anything else I have ever encountered about Sikhism. Loving everyone, treating everyone equally, and remembering that we are all human, not separate religions or castes.  
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If anyone has any other opinions or insight that they could provide me, I welcome them. I’ve just had these thoughts for a very long time and I genuinely want to ask other Sikhs what they think of them.
I am not trying to attack my faith, but rather understand it. Thank you for your time and consideration.


WKKWJKF , I have observed that the uppuermost banner on the maon -page is hanging down hiding qoute of the day and the main artice.plz someone crrect i.as "firs impression is the last impression'the main page should be well structured & gramaticallly well.
Since this page can be edited by anyone, including my original questions and points, I'd like to post a link to my tumblr page where I had originally written this: www.thebenjaminbuttonmind.tumblr.com/post/153226352047/sikhism to be sure nothing is changed. I have written it in the format where an established user will review and activate the link in the next day or so, because it is not a harmful link. I was warned "If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly, then don't submit it here." by this page, so I am simply trying to protect my discussion.
--[[User:SunnyIndia|SunnyIndia]] 04:11, 1 March 2008 (MST)


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===Reply by Hari Singh===
Dear Manveer ji,


The need of the hour is to spread & aware people about the SikhiWiki.
[[Kara]] and [[Janoo]] - the sacred thread: See article [[Guru Nanak and the Sacred Thread]]
So to enlighten the sikhs , i have started a community at [http://www.orkut.com/Community.aspx?cmm=45561957 Orkut.com] namely '''SikhiWiki'''.I request all to  [http://www.orkut.com/Community.aspx?cmm=45561957 Join It.]We'll have to join our hands & aware each sikh about basic sikhism via Net OR anyother means.
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa,Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh
--[[User:SunnyIndia|SunnyIndia]] 08:44, 1 March 2008 (MST)


== READ with your heart ;) ==
I believe that you missed the main 2 points made by the [[Guru]] when he refused to wear the [[Janoo]] - the sacred thread. This thread was a symbol for the promotion of discrimination. A janoo cannot be worn if your are a female or if you are a non-[[brahmin]] or a person of a lower caste. A woman was barred from wearing a janoo. Similarly a non-brahmin or 'Sudar' was not allowed to participate in the janoo ceremony or wear the sacred thread.


waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru  ji ke fateh!!!
With due respect, this was the reason why the Guru refused to wear the 'sacred thread'. I think you were not explained the situation in the correct context and you may have missed that main purpose for the Guru refusing to wear this symbol. An evil and degrading symbol which was meant to elevate the '''male brahmin''' to a higher social level compared to all the others in that society.
'''BEFORE YOU READ AHEAD''''  


please picture this scenario in your mind: imagine your 15 years old................  
Clearly that cannot be right. [[Guru Nanak]] believed in the equality of all humans and could not allow this ceremony to continue. Accordingly, although still a child, he refused to participate in this ceremony as it was a symbol of discrimination and segregation of section of the same community. As a child he challenged the establishment and the promotion of this degrading cultural tradition.


.................sharp hunger pains prick your stomach, you would eat anything weather its laying in a garbage bin or on the floor it makes no difference because you haven't eaten in the last 4 days. Your clothes are torn your face is smeared with dirt, you have no shoes... the soles of your feet sting because they are chapped and blistered from walking, You can't find a job because you are not educated, and even if you are there are no jobs available. After walking in the hot sun for hours, searching and begging for food, you come home and see your little 2 year old sister's swollen face from crying. She has 104 fever and the temperature outside is 49 degrees, she's suffering from Tuberculous after eating rotten germ infested food found in trashes around the city... You feel the void of separation she will not make it past tomorrow's sunrise............
A [[kara]] on the other hand can be worn by any Sikh - male, female, black, white, high caste or of no caste, etc. So it is not a symbol of discrimination within the Sikh community - It is a symbol which promotes unity and non-discrimination; it promotes equality and unification of the human race. It is a symbol of unification and promotion of equality; it displaces segregation and sexual discrimination. In fact anyone who respects [[Sikhism]] and Sikh values can wear a [[kara]].


............ come back now to your own reality....... but always remember there's those out there that can't go to a better reality.........
The message of [[Guru Nanak]] is the same as the message of [[Guru Gobind Singh]]. All the [[Sikh gurus]] have shown the same path to obtain a better spiritual life. Each Guru has shown how the Sikh principles have to be applied to the circumstances of the time. As the world became more violent, the Sikhs had to modify their behaviour and carry arms to protect themselves, defend the weak and promote righteousness.  
With deep passion and humility i call upon all those brothers and sisters that dream to make a difference so large and wonderful like the world has never seen. The organization Sikh force needs serious savadars that have a large amount of Love to help those less fortunate. The goal is to, raise money through hard work, organizing events and fundraisers in attempt to raise enough money to Permanently heal peoples broken lives.  


This organizations prayer is to help those that lack the most simplest necessities of life. After visiting pinglwara and spending time there this is what i saw: a 5 month old baby laying in a bed no diaper, with flies around it while it lay in its own faeces.. when someone gets  time they will clean him.....i have realized You can buy people to take care of the children there, but as we all know you cant buy love.....
I hope this has provided you with some clarification. Please feel free to ask any questions if required.


We make a goal every year, to impact and change a certain area in India.. and the goal of the amount we wish to raise. once that goal is prefilled we head of to india and USE the money raised to build perminent solutions to the poverty striking that area for example: buying property in that area, and building complexes (which will be given to families that have no home), then developing a continuous method of food supplies, medial treatment and of course schooling in that area.
{{SSA}}
[[user:hari singh|Hari Singh]]<sup>[[User talk:Hari singh|talk]]</sup> 01:11, 26 November 2016 (CST)


Every action and goal is to simply grab the problem at its root, rather then applying bandage solutions. As a panth we have so much money that we think we are donating to "help" people but where does it go? why have no changes taken place? why are we not pleased with the conditions back home? How can we turn our backs and continue making our own plans to get ahead when so many of our brothers and sisters rot in poverty and are left behind? Why don't we ask ourselves these questions? why are we so selfish, that we can't see beyond our own needs???
== Welcome my loves! ==


The aryan nation is in poverty and its no ones fault but our own, because we have not cared where the money is going, once we place it in someone else's hands we think our work is done.... we can fool ourselves but we cant fool those that are struggling everyday on a Hungary stomach. I urge those with medical/trade/or educating skills to come forth and not only donate money but your time as well.
Welcome to the one and only, sikhiwiki site on the planet!


BY handing someone a piece of bread or a few dollars doesn't solve a problem, your love, time and labour are needed to make a concrete change. Theres so much to say and do, and without a lot of you it wont blossom..... so kindly get in touch with with me at [email protected] and if this is not for you, kindly forward it to others.. thank you
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Most of this supernatural stuff is rubbish and an act to create a mystery and a situation of doubt and intrigue in the audience. Gurbani deals with these things in detail. Other spirits and black magic do exist but all are subject to the laws of nature. These spirits do not have more power than God or than you necessarily. As always, Waheguru will protect you as always. These spirits are all slaves of the Almighty and subject to Waheguru's hukam. If you have a strong faith in Waheguru, nothing can harm you or have any influence on you. Hope this helps.  


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Also I am married for 5 years now, but no child. What to do, I am really confused. Is there any particular Shabad from Guru Granth Sahib Ji which I should do.
I also do Sukhmani Sahib some times. Help me


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Hi,
I don't believe in this kundli, etc. If you are in Punjab, then go to [[Gurdwara Bir Baba Budda Sahib|Baba Buddha Ji's Gurdwara]] and do ardas. If you given parshad of onion,the blessing have been done.  


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This is my first message after joining the SikhiWiki community. In this message i want to talk about Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and sacred Vedas. If one has studied Vedas and Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji they will find that Shri= Guru Granth Sahib Ji is nothing different but a simplified version of teachings of Vedas and Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji was compiled during Medieval centuries to re-introduce the largely forgotten teachings and spirit of Vedas to common folk in a language in which they use to converse. Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji re-laid the foundation of one supreme timeless, shapeless and formless god, which was also the founding principle of Vedas.


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I have some marriage issue and right now it’s in really critical condition. My husband don’t respect me and always insults me by saying very wrong words. And, I am sure his mom is the main cause of this and tells his son to never respect your wife and her family (I have heard that with my ears) and criticizes me and my family often.  


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Sikh religion

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.

Today is my 1st day at this forum and so excuse me for all the mistakes I make while writing my questions.

I work in a public school system in Virginia and is the only Sikh male maintaining my sikhi saroop in the system. I have a teacher who is doing masters in Religion Studies and so is interested in the answers of his following question about Sikhism. I would greatly appreciate help from anyone who can answer any of his questions at the earliest possible. I do not fully understand his questions and also not that good in English and so seek your help.

Here under is the teacher's email to me.

Hi Mr. Singh,

This is Beau Obetts from Yorktown. I had asked you if I could interview you for a class I am taking about religion since we need to interview people of different faiths. If you are okay with this, could you please send me answers to the questions listed below in the next few days? If you would rather do an in person interview that is fine too, just let me know when you are available. Also, if you can't do it, please let me know as soon as possible. Finally, if there are any questions you feel uncomfortable answering please feel free to skip them. Thanks for your help. Beau

1) What are some of the main rules your religion gives for living an ethical life? How do you go about living a good life? Are there rules your religion accepts that you reject? 2) What does your religion say about salvation and the afterlife? What do you believe about the afterlife? 3) How does your religion deal with the question "Why do good things happen to bad people?"
Do you accept any of the answers offered by your religion? If not, how would you address the issue? 4) Are there any other ways that your personal belief differs from the official doctrine of your religion? 5) Do you have any favorite passage(s) from the scripture of your religion? If so, why does it appeal to you?


Satgurji Aap Sab Te Mehar Karan Ji. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Rajinder Singh

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2nd battle of Chamkaur (transferred from Help:Format a page by HS)

We are pleased to note an exhaustive account of battle of Chamkaur Sahib in your esteemed Sikhiwiki website. Indeed it is a painstaking work from your side. We congratulate you over this magnificent outcome.

The period of 2nd battle of Chamkaur is 21,22 and 23 Dec., l705. In Bikrmi, it is 6,7,8 Poh l76l The Evacuation of Anandpur Sahib is on the night of 20th Dec., l705. The 300th year Martyrdom celebrations of two elder Sahibzadas were commemorated on 2l,22 and 23 December 2004, at Chamkaur Sahib, at National level, by Panjab Government led by Capt. Amarinder Singh. Similarly, the300th year Martyrdom celebrations of two younger Sahibzadas of Guru Gobind Singh were commemorated in the last week of Dec.,2004 at Fatehgarh Sahib (Sirhind)

Sikhiwiki website needs some corrections in Second Battle of Chamkaur Sahib. We mention as under:-

1. Wazir Khan (Suba Sirhind) did not participate in this battle. Mughal Generals –Nahar Khan, Gairat Khan and Khawaja Mohammed Murdud participated in this battle. 2. Departure of Guru’s entourage from Anandpur Sahib is on 20th Dec.,l705 in the night. 3. Battle at Sarsa rivulet is at the dawn of 2lst Dec.,l705. It is few miles away from Kiratpur Sahib towards Ropar. Parwar Vichhora happened in that commotion.

4. Arrival at Chamkaur is in the afternoon of 2lst Dec.,l705. 5. Guru along with two elder Sahibzadas , 5 Piaras and 40 Sikhs took charge of Kachi Garhi of Chamkaur in the evening of 21st Dec., l705. 6. The distance between Ropar and Chamkaur Sahib is l6 KMs. 7. Kachi Garhi was owned by Bhai Budhi Chand and some record it of Chaudhry Roop Chand and Jagat Singh. The descendents of Roop Chand and Jagat Singh are still there in Chamkaur Sahib. 8. Guru Gobind Singh visited Chamkaur in l759(Bikrmi) for the first time, 2 years before the 2nd battle of Chamkaur. At the behest of hilly Rajas, a Mughal contingent led by Sardar Sayad Beg and Alif Khan attacked Guru in l759(Bikrmi) , at a place called Ranjitgarh in Chamkaur. They were defeated by the Sikhs. 9. The Kachi Garhi was besieged by l0 lac Mughal Army. Guru has himself penned in the Zafarnamah.There should be no doubt in it. This battle was fought by Mughals along with hilly Rajas.Ere to it, several battles had taken place between Guru and Mughals in the past. The Mughals were aware of Guru’s strength. Hence this strength. 10. When Saragarhi post of 2l soldiers could be attacked by l0,000 Pathans in l897 why it cannot be l0 lacs in battle of Chamkaur. To conjecture a figure of 700 or l000, in the siege of Kachi Garhi is not a justice to the unique battle of Chamkaur. 11. The figure and names of 40 martyrs of Kachi Garhi as given by S. Kahan Singh Nabha are taken as authentic. Figure given by SGPC in 2004 was not in fact correct. It was later withdrawn by SGPC itself. The credible figure of martyrs is 40 Sikhs and two Sahibzadas. In the Theme Park of Chamkaur 42 Pillars of Rock installed in the Open Air Theatre, are indication of that. 12. Vastar and Shastar and Kalgi was given to Bhai Sangat Singh by Guru Gobind Singh at the time of leaving Kachi Garhi of Chamkaur. From History point, it is now a settled issue. 13. On 23rd Dec., the day of l705, Bhai Sangat Singh alongwith other remaining Sikhs sacrificed their lives in the battlefield of Chamkaur. 14. While leaving Chamkaur at dead of night of 22-23 Dec.,l705, Guru uttered the words “Peer-e-hind mei ravad.” The same site is now known as Tari Sahib a few furlong from Gurudwara Katil Garh Sahib,Chamkaur. 15. The Saka Chamkaur Theme Park is in ruins. Its Construction is stalled since 2007. Politics has taken toll of it.

Kindly examine the above at your end.

Sri Chamkaur Sahib Development Forum is engaged in the all round development of the historic town and elaqa, since December 2003. Despite setbacks,it has, at its credit, a legacy of good work done. Thanks, Yours sincerely,

( Rajinder Singh Delhi) Patron

Kara and the Sacred Thread?

I was born into a Sikh family. As I grew up, I was forced to take Punjabi classes and Kirtan classes at my local Gurdwara. As a result, I also learned a lot about my religion; I’ve attended lectures, read books and biographies and been to spiritual classes. And after all that, I have to say, I still don’t completely believe in my religion.

Guru Nanak Dev Ji, said the words, “Na ko-ee Hindu, Na ko-ee Musalman,” which means, No one is hindu, no one is muslim. His meaning was to explain that everyone is equal. There is no religion that divides us; we are all human.

So my question is, why on earth would he go start a new religion? That would simply cause further divide, and he was trying to get people to unite. His message was simply to love everyone, love one god, and help the poor and needy.

There is a story about Guru Nanak Dev Ji that I remember particularly well, and it’s called “The Sacred Thread.” The story explains that Guru Nanak Dev Ji, who was born into a Hindu family, was supposed to tie this thread around his wrist for religious purposes during a religious ceremony. However, he stopped the priest and asked him, “How is this thread sacred? Will it go with me when I go to God when I die? I will wear something that goes with my soul if you have it, for otherwise it is meaningless.” Now I don’t remember the exact phrasing he said, but that was the general idea.

Now compare this to the Sikh Kara… and ask the same questions. It won’t go with you when you die. It is simply a bracelet.

Of course you could make the argument that it is the symbolic meaning of the Kara that makes people wear it. But comparing it to Guru Nanak Dev Ji and the sacred thread, I see far too many similarities between them. I’m sure the sacred thread had an important meaning too, but as Guru Nanak Dev Ji explained, it was simply that, a meaning, and not really sacred.

At the end of the day, it is simply a bracelet that you wear, and doesn’t reflect your soul that will go to God and be judged. I believe you should wear the meanings you want to reflect in this world on your soul and try to live true to them, for those will be judged when we leave this Earth. If God exists, that is; but that’s another discussion.

Yet Sikhi has changed so much from Guru Nanak Dev Ji to Guru Gobind Singh Ji, who had introduced Khalsa, and the five K’s, including the Kara.

I can understand that it was a different time and Guru Gobind Singh Ji wanted symbols to unite his people, but regardless of that fact, I don’t believe true followers of Guru Nanak Dev Ji, or Sikhs, should try to divide themselves from everyone else, for as he said, we are all one.

Sikhism as presented by Guru Nanak Dev Ji, provides me more insight into life than anything else I have ever encountered about Sikhism. Loving everyone, treating everyone equally, and remembering that we are all human, not separate religions or castes.

If anyone has any other opinions or insight that they could provide me, I welcome them. I’ve just had these thoughts for a very long time and I genuinely want to ask other Sikhs what they think of them. I am not trying to attack my faith, but rather understand it. Thank you for your time and consideration.

Since this page can be edited by anyone, including my original questions and points, I'd like to post a link to my tumblr page where I had originally written this: www.thebenjaminbuttonmind.tumblr.com/post/153226352047/sikhism to be sure nothing is changed. I have written it in the format where an established user will review and activate the link in the next day or so, because it is not a harmful link. I was warned "If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly, then don't submit it here." by this page, so I am simply trying to protect my discussion.

Reply by Hari Singh

Dear Manveer ji,

Kara and Janoo - the sacred thread: See article Guru Nanak and the Sacred Thread

I believe that you missed the main 2 points made by the Guru when he refused to wear the Janoo - the sacred thread. This thread was a symbol for the promotion of discrimination. A janoo cannot be worn if your are a female or if you are a non-brahmin or a person of a lower caste. A woman was barred from wearing a janoo. Similarly a non-brahmin or 'Sudar' was not allowed to participate in the janoo ceremony or wear the sacred thread.

With due respect, this was the reason why the Guru refused to wear the 'sacred thread'. I think you were not explained the situation in the correct context and you may have missed that main purpose for the Guru refusing to wear this symbol. An evil and degrading symbol which was meant to elevate the male brahmin to a higher social level compared to all the others in that society.

Clearly that cannot be right. Guru Nanak believed in the equality of all humans and could not allow this ceremony to continue. Accordingly, although still a child, he refused to participate in this ceremony as it was a symbol of discrimination and segregation of section of the same community. As a child he challenged the establishment and the promotion of this degrading cultural tradition.

A kara on the other hand can be worn by any Sikh - male, female, black, white, high caste or of no caste, etc. So it is not a symbol of discrimination within the Sikh community - It is a symbol which promotes unity and non-discrimination; it promotes equality and unification of the human race. It is a symbol of unification and promotion of equality; it displaces segregation and sexual discrimination. In fact anyone who respects Sikhism and Sikh values can wear a kara.

The message of Guru Nanak is the same as the message of Guru Gobind Singh. All the Sikh gurus have shown the same path to obtain a better spiritual life. Each Guru has shown how the Sikh principles have to be applied to the circumstances of the time. As the world became more violent, the Sikhs had to modify their behaviour and carry arms to protect themselves, defend the weak and promote righteousness.

I hope this has provided you with some clarification. Please feel free to ask any questions if required.

Sat Sri Akal Hari Singhtalk 01:11, 26 November 2016 (CST)

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Chaunki / black magic

I want to ask about people who say some baba, especially like peer baba, come inside them and they do chaunki or para on some particular day... they also say whatever they say at that time is true. Is there something really like that or they are fooling people to grab their attention?? And what is the reality behind those upa or black magic which some fake babas do? Does it really affect people ??

Reply

Most of this supernatural stuff is rubbish and an act to create a mystery and a situation of doubt and intrigue in the audience. Gurbani deals with these things in detail. Other spirits and black magic do exist but all are subject to the laws of nature. These spirits do not have more power than God or than you necessarily. As always, Waheguru will protect you as always. These spirits are all slaves of the Almighty and subject to Waheguru's hukam. If you have a strong faith in Waheguru, nothing can harm you or have any influence on you. Hope this helps.

Gurfateh. Chardikala, Hari Singhtalk 14:12, 21 March 2017 (CDT)

Pandit

Hi, how much truth is in all those things which pandits say after observing your kundli. Is there something like kundli, like whatever is written is true or not according to our birth date? Also I am married for 5 years now, but no child. What to do, I am really confused. Is there any particular Shabad from Guru Granth Sahib Ji which I should do. I also do Sukhmani Sahib some times. Help me

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Hi, I don't believe in this kundli, etc. If you are in Punjab, then go to Baba Buddha Ji's Gurdwara and do ardas. If you given parshad of onion,the blessing have been done.

Guru's blessings, Hari Singhtalk 17:02, 26 July 2017 (MDT)

Holy Vedas and Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji

Common Message to all beloved brothers, sisters and respected elders

Aum, Waheguru Ji Da Khalsa Waheguru Ji Di Fateh This is my first message after joining the SikhiWiki community. In this message i want to talk about Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and sacred Vedas. If one has studied Vedas and Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji they will find that Shri= Guru Granth Sahib Ji is nothing different but a simplified version of teachings of Vedas and Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji was compiled during Medieval centuries to re-introduce the largely forgotten teachings and spirit of Vedas to common folk in a language in which they use to converse. Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji re-laid the foundation of one supreme timeless, shapeless and formless god, which was also the founding principle of Vedas.

    • Why not you create and article on Similarities between Vedas and Guru Granth Sahib quoting all Hymns (Vedas and Guru Granth Sahib), instead of writing Abstract statement. It will be appreciated. Thanks (NihangKhalsa (talk) 20:32, 10 February 2018 (MST))

Regarding marriage

Waheguru gi ka khalsa, Waheguru gi ki Fateh. I have some marriage issue and right now it’s in really critical condition. My husband don’t respect me and always insults me by saying very wrong words. And, I am sure his mom is the main cause of this and tells his son to never respect your wife and her family (I have heard that with my ears) and criticizes me and my family often.

Also, my mil always try to create differences between us and she is never happy by seeing us together. She never tells my husband to have our baby and just order him that you are the father of your brothers and should look upon them and their kids, and she is never happy in starting our own family. But don’t know the reason. It’s been 6 years now and we don’t have any child yet. And my husband is not serious about the baby yet. He always thinks I am wrong and he criticizes me, judge me and find faults in me whatever I do(though his mom always controlling us and judging me and tells my husband very fake things which I haven’t even did and she is doing that from the day we were engaged i.e. 8 years now). Earlier I don’t notice these things whenever we have some problems I was confused why he was blaming me for what I didn’t do. Right now, I am in such a stressful time right now that I am unable to decide what should I do for my future. But I really love him and really want my family with him and I can’t imagine my life without him. My mind is in such a state that i am losing my thinking power and also I don’t feel like to talk to anyone and feel like crying every time.

So, my question is is she right in doing so . Also, what should I do for the future and is there any Shabad in Guru Granth Sahib Ji so that we have better understanding and happy life together?

Reply

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh Pyaree Bhanji,

I am sorry to learn about the problem in your marriage. Try and be positive and I find that reciting Benti Chaupai gives me more focus and energy. Please try this one 1 month and see what a difference it makes in your life. Don't give attention to the negativity of husband or mil but always concentrate on the positive message of Gurbani. Your life will change as you take these positive steps in your life. Keep in touch with Guru's Sangat - people who know the power of the Guru and Waheguru


Hari Singhtalk 16:50, 26 December 2018 (MST)