Talk:Dasam Granth

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The section written on the Akali Nihangs under 'The Controversy' should be moved to a more appropriate section? Doesn't seem to gel quite well with current article--Navroopsehmi 04:04, 31 Mar 2005 (Pacific Standard Time)


Just taken this 'Akali Nihangs' out, think it may be mre relevant someplace else --Navroop Singh 08:14, 3 Apr 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)

Akali Nihang Singh Khalsa and the Guru Granth Sahib: For the followers of the Akali Nihang Singh Khalsa, the traditional martial Sikhs, Sri Dasam Guru Durbar is revered as equally holy as Aad Guru Durbar (now "the Guru Granth Sahib") as well as Sarbloh Guru Durbar (literally "The Book of Pure Iron")which is also written by the 10th Guru, Guru Gobind Singh. For more information view www.shastarvidiya.org

Who are the followers of Akali Nihang Singh Khalsa? : Akali Nihangs are part of the People of Punjab that observe the teachings of Shikhism. However, the Akali Nihangs only recognize the Sikh teachings that were prevalent before the British Rule of Punjab. These traditional teachings are the Khalsa traditions of ‘Dal Panth’ (meaning, ‘way of the army’ or ‘nation that is the army’).

Akali Nihang Singh Khalsa and the Dal Panth: Dal Panth refers to the Akali Nihang Dals and Sach Khand Hazoor Sahib, Nanded, Maharashtra. Akali Nihangs DO NOT recognize ANY Khalsa institution which was established by or during British Raj or afterwards

Acknowledgement of and full respect to the Khalsa Panths, Hindu 'Kyshatriya' (warrior) ancestors such as Siri Raam Chander, Krishan Maharaj, origins, heritage and other past warriors

The Akali Nihangs do not speak about themselves as ‘Hindu’, however, they do see themselves as part of the greater Hindu Indian nation. For example, at Sach Khand Hazoor Sahib, Nanded, Maharashtra, like all 'Hazoori Sikhs', Nihangs will freely intermarry with Hindu women

The Guru Granth Sahib deals solely with saintly aspects of faith and devotion to God through such means. Dasam Granth tells of ancient battles fought between Hindu Demigods in an explanation of traditional Indian martial arts. Sarbloh Granth conists of salutations of weapons and relates to upholding the universal laws of righteousness on the battle field.


So these stories about "ancient battles fought between Hindu Demigods in an explanation of traditional Indian martial arts" should be read in that context only, these stories cannot be treated equal to Gurbani-Guru Granth Sahib and Guru Gobind Singh Ji rightly proclaimed so.


I have just split out your comment above to make it easier to follow.

At the end of the first Chandi Chitra, Guru Gobind Singh writes: "I have merely narrated the story, which is the human drama. This has been completed and whosoever reads it will obtain the objective."

The above comment, that the Chandi Dhitra "is an explanation of traditional Indian martial arts" is their own opinion, many others state that the functions of these compositions are to inspire valour on the eve of battle. An interesting article by Dalip Singh can be read at Dalip Singh article on Chandi hopefully some of this will be readable on the site. --Navroop Singh 03:14, 8 Apr 2005 (Pacific Daylight Time)


I believe, the Institution of Akal Takhat shall one day put to rest any confusion/controversy about the Dasam Granth. In principle I believe that any Bani of Dasam Granth which is not in line with the philosophy of Sri Guru Granth Sahib should be segregated to guide future generations. Of course, Sikhs don't believe in Chandi or any other Demi God of Sanatan faith and for Martial spirit and Valour I really don't believe that Sikhs need recitation of such stories. Do you really feel that Sikhs would have been in the past and shall in the future lacked or lack Martial Spirits and Valour without "Chandi Dee Vaar"?? If at all these are the works of Guru Gobind Singh Ji, it must be to expose the shallowness of many "Hindu" practices.