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| Dates of birth and meeting make Baba Buddha 18 when he first spoke with Guru Nanak Dev.
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| Also the Holy Sikh jewels does not seem to be an accurate translation of Sikhan di Bhagat Mala. Perhaps - Sikh Holy Malla (neckless) or Holy Malla of the Sikhs?
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| | Someone, in seeking to prove Guru Nanak's greatness, has pointed out that this has been proved by his picking Baba Buddha to apply tilaks, pointing out that Baba ji was from a lowly caste. |
| This page has blended two versions of the story of Miri and Piri. I have often read that Guru Hargobind asked for a sword, rather than the traditional seli of Guru Nanak. and the story of the accidental hanging by Bhai Buddha, of a sword on the wrong side - explained by
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| Baba Buddha having never used a sword and being unfamiliar with where it went.
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| Quoteing the page --When the Guru pointed out the mistake, Baba ji wanted to remove it to the other side. The Guru did not permit him to undo '''a holy act'''.
| | As Guru Nanak's greatness needs no proof and he did not make such distinctions about caste - this seems unneeded; and just how low does someone (how many sites ago?) think the Randhava/Jatt caste was? |
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| Someone wrote me, taking offense to this story, saying that having been around Sikh warriors Baba Buddha would have known where to hang a sword -- and that Miri and Piri was no accident!
| | The worse reference i can find has them descended from/ or associates of Saran Jats who were associated with the royal dynasty of Jaisalmer. Randhir Singh (then a Rajput name) is listed as starting the Randhava gotra. |
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| This still tells of the accident, of the Guru's asking for a second sword and naming them Miri and Piri, but then it goes on to say that Guru Hargobind was later (that same day?) installed, giving the date, without the accident, with both swords as if the first incident was only practice.
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| Does anyone have the actual text (the Gurbilas Chhevin Patshahi?) from which this story is told? Did the accident ever happen, were swords something that Sikhs in Guru Arjan's days were carrying? Thanks for any help [[User:Allenwalla|Allenwalla]] 06:17, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
| | Thanx [[User:Allenwalla|Allenwalla]] 20:27, 6 October 2010 (EDT) |
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| :Bhai sahib ji, {{WKWF}}
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| :Listening to many Sakhis at the Gurdwara since being a little boy, I have never come across the "accident" version or the "double take" version. Ever time I have heard of this sakhi from gianis, it is that the Guru asked for 2 swords from baba budhaa ji and said that they stood for Miri and Piri. I think we should stick to this and if there is a need, we can say that some authors have stated and then mention the other versions but state that these are not generally supported by the community. Rgds, [[user:hari singh|Hari Singh]]<sup>[[User talk:Hari singh|talk]]</sup> 18:10, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
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| Please merge [[Baba buddha sahib]] article into this article. Thank You. [[User:Gman124|Gman124]] 00:37, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
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Low caste gotra?
Anyone:
Someone, in seeking to prove Guru Nanak's greatness, has pointed out that this has been proved by his picking Baba Buddha to apply tilaks, pointing out that Baba ji was from a lowly caste.
As Guru Nanak's greatness needs no proof and he did not make such distinctions about caste - this seems unneeded; and just how low does someone (how many sites ago?) think the Randhava/Jatt caste was?
The worse reference i can find has them descended from/ or associates of Saran Jats who were associated with the royal dynasty of Jaisalmer. Randhir Singh (then a Rajput name) is listed as starting the Randhava gotra.
Please add any info you have to my talk page.
Thanx Allenwalla 20:27, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
There is no need to prove the truth, it stands by its self.
