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*personally, i think, everyone should use SIINGH and KAUR somewhere in their names, i wont lie i use my clan name also, because its a way of constituting my identity thats importent to me personally. When i become Khalsa then i'll give it up! | *personally, i think, everyone should use SIINGH and KAUR somewhere in their names, i wont lie i use my clan name also, because its a way of constituting my identity thats importent to me personally. When i become Khalsa then i'll give it up! | ||
*annother thing is that people confuse clan with caste. Clan names are names to do with LINEAGE and tribes..somewhere along the line it became a caste system to do with peoples proffessions, who cares about whether your a farmer or a supermarket attendent?!! As long as you work with honesty, and do your job as well as you can as the guru intended..then i don't see any problem... | |||
-The youth need to be strong, they need to unite and educate and help eachother, if this doesnt happen then there is no hope! And also to any parents reading this<< Please PLEASE PLEASE!! could you encourage a Sikh Youth Society at your local gurdwara? Get some kids together and organise discussions and activities...even if its just going to the park...the youth will take more pride and be more confident that way. I know it will help alot, you'll see the difference! | -The youth need to be strong, they need to unite and educate and help eachother, if this doesnt happen then there is no hope! And also to any parents reading this<< Please PLEASE PLEASE!! could you encourage a Sikh Youth Society at your local gurdwara? Get some kids together and organise discussions and activities...even if its just going to the park...the youth will take more pride and be more confident that way. I know it will help alot, you'll see the difference! | ||
Revision as of 04:49, 29 May 2008
These are words that were uttered by the founder of Sikhism, Sri Guru Nanak Dev in about 1499. So for Sikhs from that period, there has been compulsion to treat women as equals and gender discrimination was not allowed. Guru Gobind Singh's also confirmed the equality by saying the line "Manas Kee Jaat Sabhey Ekey Pehchanboo". The following are ome facts find in modern type of sikh girls, actually they are not considered as sikh but due to born in sikh family for the world they are sikhs:
Misuse of Equality with men
- Feeling Of equality, Makes their personalities like boys, Feature of boys develops , Then go to beauty parlours(Waxing, Cleansing etc). Maximum women have hair on their body and they have to sit before butcher to kill their hair. Not only those ladies now Sikh women are also doing these all and call themselves sikh. Today many gals not care about their clothes, they wear it only to show their body. Gurus gives equality but also wrote a baani caled Suchajee & Kuchajee.
- missuse of equality? See, this is what frustrates me also.As a sikh girl in the uk, im still in school and im at the stage where i question everything....
If sikh men...can drink...why cant sikh women? Sikhs are the most notorious drinkers!! its a fact!! If a man drinks so can his wife. If the man doesnt want his wife to drink he should stop also.
- and a girl can do what a guy can do! Sikh girls are the daughters of Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj, they too have the spirit of a lion within them. people should not forget that! I hate being told that i cant do something when the implication of the reasoning is that im a girl, and if i was a boy i would be allowed to!
- the day sikh boys learn to treat women with more respect, and show some admiration towards girls who conduct themselves with dignity is the day sikh girls wont feel the need to expose themselves.
It works both ways!
Killing Hair
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- Main article: Uncut Hairs
"Kesh" is one of the five kakkars of sikhism.In Sikhism to cut hair is considered a sin and by doing so ir called Patit Today girls believe in artificial look. They want to give their own look by Cutting hair in different styles. Kanga is provided to set up the hair and keep them clean but in vein. Thus they are disobeying the Guru's order.
- Main article: Human Hair
Many people dissobay guruji's order. But there is no actual sin in sikhism.. only self improvement. Sin implys penence..penance is like, paying for a sin, im jus gna make up an example here...erm if your a christian and you commit a sin, and you visit ur priest the priest says "go to this church and climb up and down the stairs this many times and your sin will be forgiven"<< that is penance.
a sikh is someone who 1) Believes in the guru granth sahib ji as the last eternal guru
2) Believes in the 5 k's
3) Believes in taking amrit
4) is working towards becoming a Khalsa.
Im a bit of an inbetween, i've never cut my hair, because it means something to me. the point is, if hair doesnt mean much to a person they'll cut it. Let them cut it, when they want to keep it they will.=)
Dressup & Nudity
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- Today many Sikhs feel helpless to see the dressing sense of modern Sikh girls.The growing tendency among the girls to show body contours is a unhealthy step in our Sikh society.In Sikhism indecent dresses are not allowed. By user:Sarbjeet 1313me
- In gurdwars these girls comes wearing indecent clothes. My Grandmom Says "Ah Zamana A Gaya, Waheguru Waheguru". Why these humans not take care of their clothes, you are sitting in congregation. Like in a company u have professional style including your sense, Clothing, Speaking style. Why don't these girls think about the professionalism of Gurdwara. Simple Dress UP, Speaking Waheguru, Sitting Below with posture and with decent style. By user:hpt_lucky
- Tatooes which are used to covered the body used today by mostly women best example is Mandira Bedi who uses Ik Onkar Tattoe on his back. What the hell is this this is not encouraging sikhism. This is the beijitti of Sikhism. I have seen many user reviews and mostly are Firangee Sikhs Girls who wrote "what happens if mandira uses sikh symbol on the body, this is to encourage sikhism". I want to tell them that Guru says first become nude and then put my tattoe on your body to cover it. Actually mandira donot knows the meaning of that symbol and so the Firangee Sikh Girls.By user:hpt_lucky
- Vulgar Dresses are liked by mostly girls today and they call themselves modern. user:hpt_lucky want to say one thing. Firstly the human donot wear the clothes, then slowly by changes he start wearing Leaves, then he start wearing small clothes, then pant shirts suit salwars comes. KNOW HUMAN IS MODERN. But know human is going backword coming in banians, undergarments, small clothes & one day in leaves and then nudity arrives again. This shows Unmodernity again the anceint one. These type of girls call themselves modern. """Hum to modern hain"", I says "Arey ladki aap to puranee khayalaat wali hain""". By user:hpt_lucky
As for girls and dressing up, girls need to cover up more! There is no reason why you cant look good and be modest. But its also upto the men, alot of young sikh boys, especially here in the UK, have NO SELF CONTROL!! its really quite sad..i think within the communities girls need to have more self respect in general, then they wont feel the need for attention from men, they'll stop dressing indecently as it is.(User:Unknown)
Drugs and Intoxicants
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- Drugs - The life destructer today women takes with great pleasure. In my city chandigarh women likes to drink(wine beer etc) & its normal but a Sikh women do the same thing then it's ABNORMAL. This all is due to company & Taste Of Tounge & Taste of Mind. It is Shameful for me to see the sikh gals & guys not the sikh only but the humanity, to take drugs and other intoxicants. Girls here drink the whole cough syrup and says "Sheeshee Laa Rahi haan". Cough syrup is also a type of drug but what attitude they have towards the seeshe. They also eat capsules. Drinking & taking drugs they dances between boys late night in club discos. An Siyaar Blady guys touch their private parts and girls have two responses "Koi Chakkar Nahin & & & Koi Chakkar He nahin. Well this is just some basic thing which i predict. By user:hpt_lucky
Lustful
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- Today girl attract towards opposite sex easily and when she got raped then she knows what she did. I have many examples here. Boys are always lusty but today a Girl is also Lusty of nature. She makes herself attractive to attract others. What Guru Says Ranna Hoyian Bodhiann, Pursh Hoyae Siyaar. By user:hpt_lucky
- Today due to the lot of exposure of sex on TV there is a negative impact on our younger generation .Not only Sikh girls but non Sikh girls are falling prey to such lustful desires. it is truth. Infactuation is there. We have many examples where Sikh girls are doing sex at the early age of 15-18 to fulfil their lustful desire.In Sikhism Sex is not prohibited but it ir allowed in the prescribed format of Married life with loyality. By user:sarbjeet_1313me
- There is alot of negative impact, this is westernised society and we as sikhs have to learn to combat its influence. We cant stop it from happening, but we can stop the influence in our communities. (User:Unknown)
- As for girls and dressing up, girls need to cover up more! There is no reason why you cant look good and be modest. But its also upto the men, alot of young sikh boys, especially here in the UK, have NO SELF CONTROL!! its really quite sad..i think within the communities girls need to have more self respect in general, then they wont feel the need for attention from men, they'll stop dressing indecently as it is.(User:Unknown)
- Also, i think theres a huge taboo in our society, whenever a guy even walks with a girl people instantly assume something dirty...i walk with my cousins down a road see an old lady from a gurdwara and they give me the evils every time!
- sikh girls and boys need to be allowed to see eachother, sikh boys will learn how to control themselves and treat women with respect and sikh girls will stop trying to sell themselves..its pretty simple!
- It makes me so angry when people make stupid assumptions, like a girl cant even walk down the road with her cousin without someone assuming something dirty! Parents need to trust their kids and stop being so backward. At the same time kids need to chill out and learn that there is more to life than trying to get attention from the opposite gender.
"Kaur" Removal from Names
Kaur means "princess" and is a name that should used as the last name by female Sikhs. This custom was first introduced in 1699 by Guru Gobind Singh, the tenth Sikh Guru when he administered Amrit(baptism) to both males and female Sikhs. All female Sikhs were asked to use the name Kaur after their forename and males were to use the name Singh, meaning "lion". This custom further confirmed equality to both genders as was the tradition set by the founder of Sikhism, Guru Nanak. For a sikh born family kaur is automatically introduced to as a last name.
But today girls are removing kaur out from there names and put their surnames or clans instead of kaur. This tendency has mainly risen up in punjab. Kaur is of less relevance to them then their surname. For eg :A jatt Sikh girl here lives whose proper name is Paravydeep Kaur Nijjar, but she likes her to call Paravydeep Nijjer. Sly a girl name Samia Kaur Arora call her Samia Arora. Where are their identity. This shows the discrimination as guru jee provide the name to all female not to discriminate on the basis of caste and they provide the name kaur, that every female is princess here but the sikh women do not accept this last name. Again Caste Discrimination, Patit Sikh concept generate. This is mostly seen in girls of Jatt and Khatri community. Latest news in Aug 2007 shows a girl hates 'Kaur' in her name, wanted certificate she is a Sikh. There are many examples like these.
Yahoo Chat(Ustaad SIngh & P. Kaur)
The following is a yahoo chat with a girl who calls herself kaur but what is kaur for her:-
Ustaad Jee: Aj Sikhs nu naam pichey Kaur ya Singh lagauna pasand nahin. (Todays Sikhs do not like surname as singh.)
Ustaad Jee: Amarpreet Johal, Harpreet Ghotra, Paravydeep Nijjer, Nobuddy likes Singh and Kaur today
Paree _The Sprite: my name is paravdeep kaur nijjar at skool
Ustaad Jee: To hell with Skool it means kaur is just for school
Paree _The Sprite: no for papers too
Paree _The Sprite: and for my passport
Ustaad Jee: Oh my god, what about your mind your heart?
Ustaad Jee: Kitabee galan naa karo jee. (Do not talk before me about papers)
Paree _The Sprite: oh ok
Paree _The Sprite: um yeah no1 adds singh and kaur
Ustaad Jee: Nijjer jyada pasand hai Kae Kaur? (You like nijjer more or Kaur?)
Paree _The Sprite: well actully i like nijjar
Ustaad Jee: Lai aa gaye gall. (Here the main fact is)
Paree _The Sprite: becuz its my pind(Village) yaar
Paree _The Sprite: did u ever hear about nijjaran?
Ustaad Jee: Pind nu laggey fahey pehlan Sikhi aaa. Ehda matleb Hobby da naam Amarpreet Singh Mohali. Hahah How Funny. (To hell with the village for me sikhi is in front how it looks like Harpreet Singh Mohali and Bill gates become Bill America)
The above discussion is short but it covers very important fact of sikhism. You guys are intelligent hope
u must understand.
-Im a sikh girl, im in school, and i think the main problem is pride. Sikhs dont have pride in their religion anymore because theres no unity. If sikh youth get together, become a close knit youth community, people will start putting kaur and singh back into their names! I've never taken it out....i love Kaur<< it doesnt just mean "princess" It means that you too, like the men...are a "son" of the guru...or as i like to say... " a prince of the female gender ;)"<< But i think some parents are also at fault..a girl can do whatever a guy can do! My mum was a bit uneasy about me playing the Dhol because its a little manly...but i play it anyways (just a little example)
- oh and also...using clan names is common, and its impossible to make the entire sikh population give them up..those who will, will! when they are ready! and its importent also in some cases especially for marriage...imagin if you married someone who was actually ur second cousin...?!
- personally, i think, everyone should use SIINGH and KAUR somewhere in their names, i wont lie i use my clan name also, because its a way of constituting my identity thats importent to me personally. When i become Khalsa then i'll give it up!
- annother thing is that people confuse clan with caste. Clan names are names to do with LINEAGE and tribes..somewhere along the line it became a caste system to do with peoples proffessions, who cares about whether your a farmer or a supermarket attendent?!! As long as you work with honesty, and do your job as well as you can as the guru intended..then i don't see any problem...
-The youth need to be strong, they need to unite and educate and help eachother, if this doesnt happen then there is no hope! And also to any parents reading this<< Please PLEASE PLEASE!! could you encourage a Sikh Youth Society at your local gurdwara? Get some kids together and organise discussions and activities...even if its just going to the park...the youth will take more pride and be more confident that way. I know it will help alot, you'll see the difference!
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