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here Balak Leela or Bal Leela or Krishna leela is condenmed. Mann(Soul) is like Child, who remain tangle in woldly attachments and when lord snatched it away from him then it just weeps. It's story of us. Let's see w\view of GUru Gobind SIngh on Krishna in Gurmat and HIndus version of krishna
here Balak Leela or Bal Leela or Krishna leela is condenmed. Mann(Soul) is like Child, who remain tangle in woldly attachments and when lord snatched it away from him then it just weeps. It's story of us. Let's see w\view of GUru Gobind SIngh on Krishna in Gurmat and HIndus version of krishna


==Dasam granth on Krisna==
ਕਈ ਰਾਮ ਕ੝ਰਿਸਨ ਰਸੂਲ ॥ ਬਿਨ੝ ਭਗਤ ਕੋ ਨ ਕਬੂਲ ॥੮॥੩੮॥<br>
He hath Created many Ramas, Krishnas and Rasuls (Prophets)
Hindu version claims only one Krishna Gurbani says there are Many
ਕਿਤੇ ਕ੝ਰਿਸਨ ਸੇ ਕੀਟ ਕੋਟੈ ਉਪਾਝ ॥
He hath Created millions of Krishnas like worms.
Hindu version never says Krishna a WORm. but Mann(Soul) if tangle in Maya is like a worm which forgets the lord i.e Dohagni, Kuchaji


==Hindu Views on Krishna==
==Hindu Views on Krishna==

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ਜ੝ਗ੝ ਦ੝ਆਪ੝ਰ੝ ਆਇਆ ਭਰਮਿ ਭਰਮਾਇਆ ਹਰਿ ਗੋਪੀ ਕਾਨ੝ਹ੝ਹ੝ ਉਪਾਇ ਜੀਉ ॥
Jug ḝu­ĝpur ĝ­i­ĝ bẖaram bẖarmĝ­i­ĝ har gopī kĝnĥ upĝ­ė jī­o.
The Brass Age of Dwaapar Yuga came, and people wandered in doubt.
The Lord created the Gopis and Krishna.

Gurbani have changed the old hindu terminology and gave new definations of it's own, which match with Gurmat philosphy and concept. Guru Sahib said

ਸੋਧੇ ਸਾਸਤ੝ਰ ਸਿਮ੝ਰਿਤਿ ਸਗਲ

Whole terms like Ram, Krishna, Gautam, Ahalya, Lanka, Ravana, Indra, Siva, Durga, Chandi etc have meanings which are align with Gurmat.

Krishna, in Gurmat

In Gurmat, Krisna is Formless. The word krisna means dark or black in colour. In Gurbani, Mann(Attentions, soul) is Black in color, if it does not listen to inner soul. Mann(Attentions, soul) is attributed as Black in gurbani and Krisna is black too, but Ram is not attributed as black but it is attributed as present in Light not Dark. The Dark part of our soul is attributed as krisna and light part is attributed as RAMA. Jeev have two parts KRISHNA and RAMA. Positive is RAMA and Negative is krishna, but if these both two are one then the next step is to get god. First we have to finish negativity from ourself and work positively as our RAMA guided us from inside. Gurbani says there are MANY KRISHNAS and there are MANY RAMAS too.

Gurbani Says:

ਕੇਤੇ ਪਵਣ ਪਾਣੀ ਵੈਸੰਤਰ ਕੇਤੇ ਕਾਨ ਮਹੇਸ ॥

In above line Guru Sahib clearly said there are Many Krishnas and Shivas. Now question is how are these many? It means the concept is different from hinduism

Bal Leela

Bal Leela is Krishna Leela which is rejected in Gurmat. As Mann is attributed as Krishna,

ਬਾਲਕ੝ ਮਰੈ ਬਾਲਕ ਕੀ ਲੀਲਾ ॥ The child dies in his childish games.

ਕਹਿ ਕਹਿ ਰੋਵਹਿ ਬਾਲ੝ ਰੰਗੀਲਾ ॥ They cry and mourn, saying that he was such a playful child.

ਜਿਸ ਕਾ ਸਾ ਸੋ ਤਿਨ ਹੀ ਲੀਆ ਭੂਲਾ ਰੋਵਣਹਾਰਾ ਹੇ ॥੭॥ The Lord who owns him has taken him back. Those who weep and mourn are mistaken. ||7||


here Balak Leela or Bal Leela or Krishna leela is condenmed. Mann(Soul) is like Child, who remain tangle in woldly attachments and when lord snatched it away from him then it just weeps. It's story of us. Let's see w\view of GUru Gobind SIngh on Krishna in Gurmat and HIndus version of krishna

Dasam granth on Krisna

ਕਈ ਰਾਮ ਕ੝ਰਿਸਨ ਰਸੂਲ ॥ ਬਿਨ੝ ਭਗਤ ਕੋ ਨ ਕਬੂਲ ॥੮॥੩੮॥
He hath Created many Ramas, Krishnas and Rasuls (Prophets)

Hindu version claims only one Krishna Gurbani says there are Many

ਕਿਤੇ ਕ੝ਰਿਸਨ ਸੇ ਕੀਟ ਕੋਟੈ ਉਪਾਝ ॥ He hath Created millions of Krishnas like worms.

Hindu version never says Krishna a WORm. but Mann(Soul) if tangle in Maya is like a worm which forgets the lord i.e Dohagni, Kuchaji

Hindu Views on Krishna

The Hinduism view of krishna is totally rejected in Gurmat. In Krishna Avtar Guru Gobind SIngh is exposing Krishna's life:

ਕਾਨ੝ਹ ਕਹੀ ਹਸ ਬਾਤ ਤਿਨੈ ਕਹਿ ਹੈ ਹਮ ਜੋ ਤ੝ਮ ਸੋ ਮਨ ਹੋ ॥ ਸਭ ਹੀ ਮ੝ਖਿ ਚੂਮਨ ਦੇਹ੝ ਕਹਯੋ ਚ੝ਮ ਹੈ ਹਮ ਹੂੰ ਤ੝ਮਹੂੰ ਗਨਿਹੋ ॥

Krishna said, "See, whatever I shall say now, all of you will have to accept that; let me kiss the faces of all; I shall kiss and you count, all of you;

ਅਰ੝ ਤੋਰਨ ਦੋਹ੝ ਕਹਯੋ ਸਭਹੀ ਕ੝ਚ ਨਾ ਤਰ ਹਉ ਤ੝ਮ ਕੌ ਹਨਿਹੋ ॥ ਤਬਹੀ ਪਟ ਦੇਉ ਸਭੈ ਤ੝ਮਰੇ ਇਹ ਝੂਠ ਨਹੀ ਸਤ ਕੈ ਜਨਿਹੋ ॥੨੬੬॥

Let me touch the nipple of your breasts, otherwise I shall behave more badly with you; I am speaking truth that I shall give you the clothes only after doing all this."266.


Krishna (कृषढ़ण in Devanagari, kṛṣṇa in IAST, is a deity worshipped across many traditions in Hinduism in a variety of perspectives. While many Vaishnava groups recognize Krishna as an avatar of Vishnu, other traditions within Krishnaism consider him to be svayam bhagavan, or the Supreme Being.

The Sanskrit word kṛṣṇa means "black", "dark" or "dark-blue". It is often used as a name to describe someone with dark skin. Krishna is often depicted in murtis (idols) as black, and is generally shown in paintings with a blue skin.

Krishna is often depicted as an infant or young boy playing a flute as in the Bhagavata Purana, or as a youthful prince giving direction and guidance as in the Bhagavad Gita. The stories of Krishna appear across a broad spectrum of Hindu philosophical and theological traditions.

They portray him in various perspectives: a god-child, a prankster, a model lover, a divine hero and the Supreme Being. The principal scriptures discussing Krishna's story are the Mahabharata, the Harivamsa, the Bhagavata Purana and the Vishnu Purana.

ਆਪੇ ਗੋਪੀ ਕਾਨ੝ ਹੈ ਪਿਆਰਾ ਬਨਿ ਆਪੇ ਗਊ ਚਰਾਹਾ ॥ ਆਪੇ ਸਾਵਲ ਸ੝ੰਦਰਾ ਪਿਆਰਾ ਆਪੇ ਵੰਸ੝ ਵਜਾਹਾ ॥
Āpė gopī kĝn hai pi­ĝrĝ ban ĝpė ga­ū cẖarĝhĝ. Āpė sĝval sunḝrĝ pi­ĝrĝ ĝpė vans vajĝhĝ.
The Beloved Himself is the milk-maid and Krishna; He Himself herds the cows in the woods.

The Beloved Himself is the blue-skinned, handsome one; He Himself plays on His flute.