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The poet tried to impersonate Guru Ji by showing his father died for Hinduism, that he fought Bhangani Battle, Nadaun battle etc, but left many clues which show that the writer cannot be Guru Gobind Singh.
Acc. to some people, poet tried to impersonate Guru Ji by showing his father died for Hinduism, that he fought Bhangani Battle, Nadaun battle etc, but left many clues which show that the writer cannot be Guru Gobind Singh.


==Ideological mistakes==
==Ideological mistakes==


* His father visited many pilgrimages, which is against Sikhism and shows that Guru Tegh Bahadur couldn't be his father.
* His father visited many pilgrimages, which is against Sikhism and shows that Guru Tegh Bahadur couldn't be his father.  


* Says all prophets before him are fake.
** Visiting Pilgrimages is not against sikhism at all. But the aim behind visiting pilgrimages like someone want to attain moksha through pilgrimage, or someone bath in water to get pure these beliefs are false. Gurus said god is within us, but if someone visit pilgrimages for darshan it doesn't means that he become non sikh. If you visit Golden Temple isn't it pilgrimage? If you visit Sees Ganj Sahib isn't it pilgrimage? But if you think by Visiting Hazoor Sahib you will attain lord then its against sikhi. Golden Temple and Hazoor Sahib is not related to Attaining God. The Gurbani is way to understand god and the Dasam Bani is way to undrstand gurmat, reach there and understand him. In Bacchitar Natak it is mentioned that he visited pilgrimages (like Guru Nanak did). He met sangat and preached gurbani there. Like Guru Nanak did.


ਜੇ ਜੇ ਭਝ ਪਹਿਲ ਅਵਤਾਰਾ ॥ ਆਪ੝ ਆਪ੝ ਤਿਨ ਜਾਪ੝ ਉਚਾਰਾ ॥
* Says all prophets before him are fake. Poet tried to break communal Harmony.
 
ਜੇ ਜੇ ਭਝ ਪਹਿਲ ਅਵਤਾਰਾ ॥ ਆਪ੝ ਆਪ੝ ਤਿਨ ਜਾਪ੝ ਉਚਾਰਾ ॥<br>
All the earlier incarnations caused only their names to be remembered.
All the earlier incarnations caused only their names to be remembered.


ਪ੝ਰਭ ਦੋਖੀ ਕੋਈ ਨ ਬਿਦਾਰਾ ॥ ਧਰਮ ਕਰਨ ਕੋ ਰਾਹ੝ ਨ ਡਾਰਾ ॥੪੪॥
ਪ੝ਰਭ ਦੋਖੀ ਕੋਈ ਨ ਬਿਦਾਰਾ ॥ ਧਰਮ ਕਰਨ ਕੋ ਰਾਹ੝ ਨ ਡਾਰਾ ॥੪੪॥<br>
They did not strike the tyrants and did not make them follow th path of Dharma.44.
They did not strike the tyrants and did not make them follow th path of Dharma.44.


ਜੇ ਜੇ ਗਉਸ ਅੰਬੀਆ ਭਝ ॥ ਮੈ ਮੈ ਕਰਤ ਜਗਤ ਤੇ ਗਝ ॥
ਜੇ ਜੇ ਗਉਸ ਅੰਬੀਆ ਭਝ ॥ ਮੈ ਮੈ ਕਰਤ ਜਗਤ ਤੇ ਗਝ ॥<br>
All the earlier prophets ended themselves in ego.
All the earlier prophets ended themselves in ego.


ਮਹਾਪ੝ਰਖ ਕਾਹੂੰ ਨ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥ ਕਰਮ ਧਰਮ ਕੋ ਕਛੂ ਨ ਜਾਨਾ ॥੪੫॥
ਮਹਾਪ੝ਰਖ ਕਾਹੂੰ ਨ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥ ਕਰਮ ਧਰਮ ਕੋ ਕਛੂ ਨ ਜਾਨਾ ॥੪੫॥<br>
And did not comprehend the supreme Purusha, they did not care for the righteous actions.45.
And did not comprehend the supreme Purusha, they did not care for the righteous actions.45.
** Avtar word is of Hinduism. Avtarwaad is not related to Sikhism. No guru said that they were avtar. Neither in bachitar natak it is said that Gurus were avtar. Here it is about Avtarwaad like Rama, Krishna, Varah etc.  Prophets are paigambars and this word is not related to sikhism. We have word Gurmukh. Prophets are related to christianity and islam Jesus, Muhammad, Noah etc. In Bachitar natak poet clearly mentioned role of 9 Nanak's in spreading god words and he himself did so.


==Chronological mistakes==
==Chronological mistakes==


* The poet makes many mistakes, such as placing Ramanand in history before Muhammad, saying that first three Gurus were Bedis, while second Guru was Trehan and third was Bhalla.
* The poet makes many mistakes, such as placing Ramanand in history before Muhammad, saying that first three Gurus were Bedis, while second Guru was Trehan and third was Bhalla.

Revision as of 22:36, 27 December 2009

Acc. to some people, poet tried to impersonate Guru Ji by showing his father died for Hinduism, that he fought Bhangani Battle, Nadaun battle etc, but left many clues which show that the writer cannot be Guru Gobind Singh.

Ideological mistakes

  • His father visited many pilgrimages, which is against Sikhism and shows that Guru Tegh Bahadur couldn't be his father.
    • Visiting Pilgrimages is not against sikhism at all. But the aim behind visiting pilgrimages like someone want to attain moksha through pilgrimage, or someone bath in water to get pure these beliefs are false. Gurus said god is within us, but if someone visit pilgrimages for darshan it doesn't means that he become non sikh. If you visit Golden Temple isn't it pilgrimage? If you visit Sees Ganj Sahib isn't it pilgrimage? But if you think by Visiting Hazoor Sahib you will attain lord then its against sikhi. Golden Temple and Hazoor Sahib is not related to Attaining God. The Gurbani is way to understand god and the Dasam Bani is way to undrstand gurmat, reach there and understand him. In Bacchitar Natak it is mentioned that he visited pilgrimages (like Guru Nanak did). He met sangat and preached gurbani there. Like Guru Nanak did.
  • Says all prophets before him are fake. Poet tried to break communal Harmony.

ਜੇ ਜੇ ਭਝ ਪਹਿਲ ਅਵਤਾਰਾ ॥ ਆਪ੝ ਆਪ੝ ਤਿਨ ਜਾਪ੝ ਉਚਾਰਾ ॥
All the earlier incarnations caused only their names to be remembered.

ਪ੝ਰਭ ਦੋਖੀ ਕੋਈ ਨ ਬਿਦਾਰਾ ॥ ਧਰਮ ਕਰਨ ਕੋ ਰਾਹ੝ ਨ ਡਾਰਾ ॥੪੪॥
They did not strike the tyrants and did not make them follow th path of Dharma.44.

ਜੇ ਜੇ ਗਉਸ ਅੰਬੀਆ ਭਝ ॥ ਮੈ ਮੈ ਕਰਤ ਜਗਤ ਤੇ ਗਝ ॥
All the earlier prophets ended themselves in ego.

ਮਹਾਪ੝ਰਖ ਕਾਹੂੰ ਨ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥ ਕਰਮ ਧਰਮ ਕੋ ਕਛੂ ਨ ਜਾਨਾ ॥੪੫॥
And did not comprehend the supreme Purusha, they did not care for the righteous actions.45.

    • Avtar word is of Hinduism. Avtarwaad is not related to Sikhism. No guru said that they were avtar. Neither in bachitar natak it is said that Gurus were avtar. Here it is about Avtarwaad like Rama, Krishna, Varah etc. Prophets are paigambars and this word is not related to sikhism. We have word Gurmukh. Prophets are related to christianity and islam Jesus, Muhammad, Noah etc. In Bachitar natak poet clearly mentioned role of 9 Nanak's in spreading god words and he himself did so.


Chronological mistakes

  • The poet makes many mistakes, such as placing Ramanand in history before Muhammad, saying that first three Gurus were Bedis, while second Guru was Trehan and third was Bhalla.