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'''The point - whether  you prefer gurmakhi, english, chinese, spanish... it's not the script that counts... it's the underlying message!'''
'''The point - whether  you prefer gurmakhi, english, chinese, spanish... it's not the script that counts... it's the underlying message!'''
'''You... are truly... lost... you will burn here and in the neither worlds you sad M utha F.lo'''l--[[User:Raidcmdr|Raidcmdr]] 08:28, 22 February 2010 (UTC)




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....The Gurū Granth Sĝhib refers to the final version of the scripture created by Gobind Singh.....[[User:Mutia]]30 Dec 06
....The Gurū Granth Sĝhib refers to the final version of the scripture created by Gobind Singh.....[[User:Mutia]]30 Dec 06
== Bir English Translation ==
OK now you have pissed me off! You all need to step back and shut the F*k up! Go ahead change my words I swore ...Wow I said a bad uncivil word you "f*kn Masands" Ooooh another this Man is violent, -at all you hippy Cu*ts! kick me off if it pleases you! The fact of the matter is here I am learning Chinese and Japanese to read the proper scripts of Sun Tzus Pen Fa(ARt OF WAR to you illiterate) and the Book of Five Rings. I have read many translations, all were flawed None perfectly word for word. When I started to translate the Sri Guru Granth Sahib I found it a very daunting task. The main thing not to let my emotions and views like they did Banno, take control. My point- it is impossible, but you do get some great meaning if not deeper diferent perspective in some respect or another. Yes you Morons It is very valuable to translate into all languages but it will not be a Sri Guru Granth Sahib just a translation of to help one get an Idea.  Get this!  The Punjabi and Gurmukhi speakers don't even know what the meanings are to this date they all bastardize the Granth as you people do with your fickle translations.Yes even the Punjabi's don't know what they are reading and the meanings! Its a Riddle people! Now that should make you English only readers feel more confident you MUST LEARN GURMUKHI NOT PUNJABI! you will actually understand deeper meanings and solve the riddle faster than the arrogant Punjabis like myself don't fool yourselves and let your five inner demons rule your corrupt diseased temple with their pathetic suggestions. One world! One God! Ya thats why I love learning languages it makes me one with all 'my' cultures and races we should be teaching oneness not stating as Sikhs knowledge seekers/learners. How lazy! we are, any thing goes give me a break people you are actually buying this sh*t! shame on all of you change the Supreme Gurus way to conform to your lazy ideals. If your having trouble getting the meanings I will fly out to you and help you all and my self with your un-profound humble love. Note read the translations all over the net, I know Gurmukhi flawless- and I tell you all this, The english translation are misguiding you all. Go back to being christian but don't bastardize /Macaulifize the religion.--[[User:Raidcmdr|Raidcmdr]] 08:24, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
PS: what will kill you all is I was baptized. lol- It is hilarious I challenge you all!  You wear his Bana his Garb, strut around, the world laughs at you! When they- the so called others come to me, they  do not even notice my shorn hair and ask me- "can you tell me about your father and what he meant"? How sad is that!!!! You people have to resort to the Bastard that does not basterdize. Yes I am a bastard the progenitor of the Bastard Singh Club- a private club I must add I am the only member. I am not allowed into Vallhalla I sit and gaurd at the Gates I need not worry none of you will ever see those gates let alone The father- the way you all buy into your own'''Bold text''' bulsh*t.lol--[[User:Raidcmdr|Raidcmdr]] 08:24, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

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SGGs in other languages

Some of us have now come to believe that the guru granth sahib ji, or the guru's message should not be recited or installed as the main guru in gurdwara or in a pesons house. We seem to have a bad case of language superiority in the sikhi community. We speak just about everything in punjabi/gurmakhi, and people think it's the only way to talk to god. You can't blame peopel for it, after 400 years of breeding, talking, and being living with a certain set of standards, it's hard to see other peoples needs and persepctives. As a result, we have set up barriers to our own guru and on top of that, force people to give up their own langauges.

One should enter sikhi and never feel pressured to learn punjabi culture, language, or values. Accept people for who they are.

Back on to the SGGS, the english guru granth sahib ji is just as important and relavant as the gurmakhi version. Really, god's power and will can never be fully put into man made scripts (gurmakhi does use other languages and scripts), but the gurus tried their best and made the most beautiful work of all.

Yet, the message is the real concern. Translations are still the guru ji message and it will never change. That is provided people dont on purpose change the meaning.

The point - whether you prefer gurmakhi, english, chinese, spanish... it's not the script that counts... it's the underlying message!


  • I think link to external site shall be useful hereGuglani 04:40, 23 Aug 2005 (Central Daylight Time)

Jo Bole (...Jo ki Guglaniji ne ooper Bola), So Nihal !

BOLE.............................! SO NIHAL

#Jo deese Gursikhda Niv Niv laga pau jeeo... !

Nanak & Guglaniji speak the unspoken fearlessly & with utmost Humility.

#Bhai kahho ko det..neh bhai manat aan.... #Mithat nivin Nanka Gun Changiaian Tat...

  • Gurbani is a language & so are all other languages of HUMANITY nay! 'TRUTH god'
  • FALSEHOOD/ritualism has no Place what so ever in GURMAT.

Satgur Fateh! User:Mutia03 Nov06

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....The Gurū Granth Sĝhib refers to the final version of the scripture created by Gobind Singh.....User:Mutia30 Dec 06