Talk:Why I wear a Turban?

Hari ji, ypor name is listed as the first poster of this page. i do not know if you have written the page but i have made some changes to the page. the comments below address the resoning behind the changes.

In the lines:

When the Guru's son, young Gobind Rai, soon to be Guru Gobind Rai, found out about this tragic occurrence, he asked Bhai Jaita a witness to the event: "Wasn't there any Sikh in the crowd" – meaning wasn't there any brave people in the crowd who would have stopped such a tragedy from taking place. The answer that was received led to the Guru's gift of the dastaar as part of the 5 Kakkars which would change the outward appearance of Sikhs so that they would be sure to stand out in any crowd. (i have never seen such a long translation for the word Sikh before, not so appropriate at the date but after the Khalsa was begun very much so.)

Bhai Jaita replied, "Guru Ji, many Sikhs must have been there in the crowd, but they could not be recognised." You see, in 1675, the Sikhs were not required to wear a turban. All the Sikh Gurus had worn turbans but not all of their followers Sikhs did.

This implies that there were Sikhs in the crowd, and that if they had only had turbans on then someone, a non Sikh?, could have shouted out to them, hey I see you are a Sikh go do something about this. The Sikhs who were there knew who they were, they didn't need anyone to point them out.

The fact is that most likely there were many Sikhs in the crowd - having a turban would have made no difference. They did not do /could not do anything. Bravery and fighting were not things that they had been trained in. And even if there were a few brave individual Sikhs they could not have stopped the execution as God/Waheguru was involved in this, quoting words attributed to the Guru, 'a brave man must come forward as the Guru said to his young son and sacrifice his life'.

Some writers on these pages have lamented and discounted the contributions of the earlier Gurus with comments such as "they only gave us beads, but Guru Gobind Singh turned us into hawks." The Hawks that the Khalsa became are Hawks that he created by his training and will.

Is someone putting their words into the mouth of the young Guru Gobind Rai when (the writer) has the Guru telling Bhai Jetha, I will invent the Khalsa-- for if he had said that on that day there would have been no surprise on the day when men were challenged to 'feed' the Guru's hungry sword--for they would already have been waiting in anticipation knowing of the Khalsa and their becoming Sant-soldiers.

And on the topic of Bhai Jetha, who was at the time a savenger a Mazhabi, some stories say he was a Sikh already others say he was leaning that way. He was given a special name that day on which he returned the Guru's head to his family. Yet his Mazhabi page here has a non-Sikh warning even though he died fighting at Chamkaur. Allenwalla 15:49, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Most of the stories on Guru Tegh Bahadur have him being "At Cause" in the matter of his death, i.e. he went to Delhi knowing full well that he would most likely be murdered and tortured by Aurangzeb the Grandson of the man who had allowed the torture that had caused the death of his own Grandfather.

He willingly laided his live on the line to bring an end to the savage treatment of his Hindu neighbors at the hands of the thoughtless Mughals who, unless a man was a Muslim, considered them animals or less than men.

This particular page has the Guru reduced to being a victim as if his being there was not his design. I mean this Great man daringly faced down the scion of the Greatest, most powerful kingdom on the earth at that time. He did it without any army and with only a handfull of his followers who, like he (to put it in modern terms) gave their lives in one of the world's first non-violent peaceful protests.Allenwalla 19:33, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

300 hundred years their reputation and memory are secure while Aurangzeb's life is viewed as one of the world's great trajedies. All one has to do is read his last statment about his life.